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Old 09-11-2017, 01:43 PM
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The science above is all speculation by PHD's to keep them out of the soup kitchens. There is no fact to back up man made climate change theories. The air is cleaner than it was fifty years ago and we still have climate changes in cycles. We have had periods of tropical weather and we have had the ice age. None of that was caused by man.
If you liberals want to concentrate on hocus pocus then go for it. Just don't force the rest of the folks that live with common sense to live your fantasy about how you are going to change the weather, by being vegetarians and by eliminating fossil fuels. If you want fact, go to the military website that has stats from their equipment in the poles that show that the ice has been melting from below and that the water is getting warmer based on underwater volcanoes and earth quakes. Those are scientists also, in case you want to disparage it because of them being part of the armed forces.
GO AHEAD....PROVE IT
Show the "military website" that has verifiable facts, not just phony numbers.
It is people like you, whose collective heads are in the sand that say that science is wrong, but you believe your doctor, your weatherman, the drug companies, how about NASA?

You are much more than just ignorant, but willfully ignorant

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What does "Global Warming" have to do with storms? No, actually what do humans have to do with these storms? Tell me how we can "pull together" to change the weather.
A million more babies are born every four days. Every hour of every day, 150 acres of rainforest are cut down for grassland to graze beef to feed those hungry mouths. Rainforests, among other things, help regulate the world's climate. Over the last 20,000 years our fuel burning/carbon producing population has increased from a few thousand to 7.5 billion people. We've put 40% more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere in the last 100 years than in the last 100 million years. All of the above heat the atmosphere and the oceans. Hurricanes get their destructive energy from the warmth of the ocean, and the water temperatures are super elevated,” said the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research. Hurricane Irma Was Made Worse by Climate Change, Scientists Say
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Old 09-11-2017, 02:20 PM
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GO AHEAD....PROVE IT
Show the "military website" that has verifiable facts, not just phony numbers.
It is people like you, whose collective heads are in the sand that say that science is wrong, but you believe your doctor, your weatherman, the drug companies, how about NASA?

You are much more than just ignorant, but willfully ignorant

The 3% of scientific papers that deny climate change are all flawed — Quartz

https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/
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Old 09-11-2017, 08:09 PM
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GO AHEAD....PROVE IT
Show the "military website" that has verifiable facts, not just phony numbers.
It is people like you, whose collective heads are in the sand that say that science is wrong, but you believe your doctor, your weatherman, the drug companies, how about NASA?

You are much more than just ignorant, but willfully ignorant

The 3% of scientific papers that deny climate change are all flawed — Quartz

https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/
No, you go ahead in DIS-prove it. You cannot prove that man had anything to do with climate change.
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No, you go ahead in DIS-prove it. You cannot prove that man had anything to do with climate change.
It DOES NOT MATTER if "man had anything to do with climate change" but it does matter that man, through burning of fossil fuels has increased the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere, which increases the temperature of the Earth, resulting in climate change.

I also offered sources of scientific data that has been verified, and what have you offered? NOTHING! except a futile attempt to change the direction of my statement. That is a tactic of a 6-year old.

According to an ongoing temperature analysis conducted by scientists at NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS), the average global temperature on Earth has increased by about 0.8° Celsius (1.4° Fahrenheit) since 1880. Two-thirds of the warming has occurred since 1975, at a rate of roughly 0.15-0.20°C per decade. This rate is over a 42 year period, and such temperature changes, historically, according to ice core samples taken in Antarctica, would normally take 10,000-20,000 years.
So, what is apparent is that the massive use of fossil fuels by man has actually made a tremendous acceleration of a natural cycle.

A warmer atmosphere is able to hold more water vapor, and thus, when it rains, there are more violent and productive storms. The Earth's ground temperature also rises, causing any moisture in the ground to evaporate and cause drought in those areas. Forest areas experiencing drought condition are more suseptible and vulnerable to fires, and other lands, once able to produce crops, can become too dry to sustain their growth.

This is NOT a political point, this is SCIENCE that has been proven and the threat that global warming has also been recognized by.....wait for it.....the US Military! which sees it as a viable THREAT to the security of the USA.

Perhaps you should start reading actual science instead of relying upon political talking points based in your ignorance.
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Old 09-12-2017, 11:40 AM
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It DOES NOT MATTER if "man had anything to do with climate change" but it does matter that man, through burning of fossil fuels has increased the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere, which increases the temperature of the Earth, resulting in climate change.

I also offered sources of scientific data that has been verified, and what have you offered? NOTHING! except a futile attempt to change the direction of my statement. That is a tactic of a 6-year old.

According to an ongoing temperature analysis conducted by scientists at NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS), the average global temperature on Earth has increased by about 0.8° Celsius (1.4° Fahrenheit) since 1880. Two-thirds of the warming has occurred since 1975, at a rate of roughly 0.15-0.20°C per decade. This rate is over a 42 year period, and such temperature changes, historically, according to ice core samples taken in Antarctica, would normally take 10,000-20,000 years.
So, what is apparent is that the massive use of fossil fuels by man has actually made a tremendous acceleration of a natural cycle.

A warmer atmosphere is able to hold more water vapor, and thus, when it rains, there are more violent and productive storms. The Earth's ground temperature also rises, causing any moisture in the ground to evaporate and cause drought in those areas. Forest areas experiencing drought condition are more suseptible and vulnerable to fires, and other lands, once able to produce crops, can become too dry to sustain their growth.

This is NOT a political point, this is SCIENCE that has been proven and the threat that global warming has also been recognized by.....wait for it.....the US Military! which sees it as a viable THREAT to the security of the USA.

Perhaps you should start reading actual science instead of relying upon political talking points based in your ignorance.
Perhaps YOU should use some common sense instead of being led around by the nose by science fiction.

When's the last time you witnessed the Dust Bowl or A DUST BOWL? Smog is way down, compared to years ago. We have cleaner air than we did fifty years ago.

Quit being a hysterical little girl. This is MAN's Earth and we have to live on it. If you want to clean it up, then get rid of all the cattle that feeds you. Then get rid of all the deer since there are more of them now than fifty years ago. But, I plan to live just as I wish, without worrying about some libtard and what he thinks of what the environment will be a thousand years from now. Besides, NOTHING you do will change earth quakes, Hurricanes or tornadoes. You are arrogant to think that you can have any effect on the weather. Try using your mind for critical thinking instead of listening to every quack scientist that wants to sell a book, or justify government grants he is living on.

Fact, the polar ices cap is melting and freezing in cycles. Right now, the oceans are warmer because of underseas volcanoes. That's life and you can't change it.

Spending money, wasting money on arguing climate control, is foolish. You liberals think that it is a waste of money to spend it on National Defense, but would rather worry about the temperature trend than spend the money on infrastructure. You think that abortion is the solution to over population and poverty, and yet refuse to execute scumbags that are leaches on our economy, that would kill or rape if not incarcerated.

And yet, you want the wealthy to pay for all this. If you all were paying your fair share, you would not be wishing to waste it on frivolous studies that produce nothing of substance.
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Old 09-12-2017, 11:57 AM
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Perhaps YOU should use some common sense instead of being led around by the nose by science fiction.

When's the last time you witnessed the Dust Bowl or A DUST BOWL? Smog is way down, compared to years ago. We have cleaner air than we did fifty years ago.

Quit being a hysterical little girl. This is MAN's Earth and we have to live on it. If you want to clean it up, then get rid of all the cattle that feeds you. Then get rid of all the deer since there are more of them now than fifty years ago. But, I plan to live just as I wish, without worrying about some libtard and what he thinks of what the environment will be a thousand years from now. Besides, NOTHING you do will change earth quakes, Hurricanes or tornadoes. You are arrogant to think that you can have any effect on the weather. Try using your mind for critical thinking instead of listening to every quack scientist that wants to sell a book, or justify government grants he is living on.

Fact, the polar ices cap is melting and freezing in cycles. Right now, the oceans are warmer because of underseas volcanoes. That's life and you can't change it.

Spending money, wasting money on arguing climate control, is foolish. You liberals think that it is a waste of money to spend it on National Defense, but would rather worry about the temperature trend than spend the money on infrastructure. You think that abortion is the solution to over population and poverty, and yet refuse to execute scumbags that are leaches on our economy, that would kill or rape if not incarcerated.

And yet, you want the wealthy to pay for all this. If you all were paying your fair share, you would not be wishing to waste it on frivolous studies that produce nothing of substance.
WOW what a rant from one of the most ignorant people on the site.
I supplied verifiable facts, you supplied garbage from your mouth.
Looks like your dementia is taking over your mind, better increase your meds.
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Old 09-12-2017, 12:25 PM
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Perhaps YOU should use some common sense instead of being led around by the nose by science fiction.

When's the last time you witnessed the Dust Bowl or A DUST BOWL?

Smog is way down, compared to years ago. We have cleaner air than we did fifty years ago.

Quit being a hysterical little girl. This is MAN's Earth and we have to live on it. If you want to clean it up, then get rid of all the cattle that feeds you. Then get rid of all the deer since there are more of them now than fifty years ago. But, I plan to live just as I wish, without worrying about some libtard and what he thinks of what the environment will be a thousand years from now. Besides, NOTHING you do will change earth quakes, Hurricanes or tornadoes. You are arrogant to think that you can have any effect on the weather. Try using your mind for critical thinking instead of listening to every quack scientist that wants to sell a book, or justify government grants he is living on.

Fact, the polar ices cap is melting and freezing in cycles. Right now, the oceans are warmer because of underseas volcanoes. That's life and you can't change it.

Spending money, wasting money on arguing climate control, is foolish. You liberals think that it is a waste of money to spend it on National Defense, but would rather worry about the temperature trend than spend the money on infrastructure. You think that abortion is the solution to over population and poverty, and yet refuse to execute scumbags that are leaches on our economy, that would kill or rape if not incarcerated.

And yet, you want the wealthy to pay for all this. If you all were paying your fair share, you would not be wishing to waste it on frivolous studies that produce nothing of substance.
Oh the frigging, flaming...purely ignorant hypocrisy.

It was people EXACTLY like you, who were screaming that we couldn't afford the automobile/factory/Etc. regulations to clean up the air...and the country would implode due to the effort.

Please don't stop though, as you continually provide belly laughs...with your massive ignorance and hypocrisy.


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Old 09-12-2017, 07:43 PM
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It DOES NOT MATTER if "man had anything to do with climate change" but it does matter that man, through burning of fossil fuels has increased the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere, which increases the temperature of the Earth, resulting in climate change.

I also offered sources of scientific data that has been verified, and what have you offered? NOTHING! except a futile attempt to change the direction of my statement. That is a tactic of a 6-year old.

According to an ongoing temperature analysis conducted by scientists at NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS), the average global temperature on Earth has increased by about 0.8° Celsius (1.4° Fahrenheit) since 1880. Two-thirds of the warming has occurred since 1975, at a rate of roughly 0.15-0.20°C per decade. This rate is over a 42 year period, and such temperature changes, historically, according to ice core samples taken in Antarctica, would normally take 10,000-20,000 years.
So, what is apparent is that the massive use of fossil fuels by man has actually made a tremendous acceleration of a natural cycle.

A warmer atmosphere is able to hold more water vapor, and thus, when it rains, there are more violent and productive storms. The Earth's ground temperature also rises, causing any moisture in the ground to evaporate and cause drought in those areas. Forest areas experiencing drought condition are more suseptible and vulnerable to fires, and other lands, once able to produce crops, can become too dry to sustain their growth.

This is NOT a political point, this is SCIENCE that has been proven and the threat that global warming has also been recognized by.....wait for it.....the US Military! which sees it as a viable THREAT to the security of the USA.

Perhaps you should start reading actual science instead of relying upon political talking points based in your ignorance.
Wow...are you liberals back to this old crap.

Hey anyone want to join me to protest air pollution in Las Vegas next week? It's a cheap flight, besides vacations don't contribute to air pollution - if they did, union liberals would stop taking them...

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wow...are you liberals back to this old crap.

Hey anyone want to join me to protest air pollution in las vegas next week? It's a cheap flight, besides vacations don't contribute to air pollution - if they did, union liberals would stop taking them...

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Old 09-14-2017, 12:38 PM
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A million more babies are born every four days. Every hour of every day, 150 acres of rainforest are cut down for grassland to graze beef to feed those hungry mouths. Rainforests, among other things, help regulate the world's climate. Over the last 20,000 years our fuel burning/carbon producing population has increased from a few thousand to 7.5 billion people. We've put 40% more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere in the last 100 years than in the last 100 million years. All of the above heat the atmosphere and the oceans. Hurricanes get their destructive energy from the warmth of the ocean, and the water temperatures are super elevated,” said the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research. Hurricane Irma Was Made Worse by Climate Change, Scientists Say
THAT is THE problem right there...too many people...at LEAST half have to go or it's unsustainable. Want to fox ALL the worlds problems...get rid of half the people. Start with the poor violent ones...living in the inner cities. There ARE too many.

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It DOES NOT MATTER if "man had anything to do with climate change" but it does matter that man, through burning of fossil fuels has increased the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere, which increases the temperature of the Earth, resulting in climate change.

I also offered sources of scientific data that has been verified, and what have you offered? NOTHING! except a futile attempt to change the direction of my statement. That is a tactic of a 6-year old.

According to an ongoing temperature analysis conducted by scientists at NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS), the average global temperature on Earth has increased by about 0.8° Celsius (1.4° Fahrenheit) since 1880. Two-thirds of the warming has occurred since 1975, at a rate of roughly 0.15-0.20°C per decade. This rate is over a 42 year period, and such temperature changes, historically, according to ice core samples taken in Antarctica, would normally take 10,000-20,000 years.
So, what is apparent is that the massive use of fossil fuels by man has actually made a tremendous acceleration of a natural cycle.

A warmer atmosphere is able to hold more water vapor, and thus, when it rains, there are more violent and productive storms. The Earth's ground temperature also rises, causing any moisture in the ground to evaporate and cause drought in those areas. Forest areas experiencing drought condition are more suseptible and vulnerable to fires, and other lands, once able to produce crops, can become too dry to sustain their growth.

This is NOT a political point, this is SCIENCE that has been proven and the threat that global warming has also been recognized by.....wait for it.....the US Military! which sees it as a viable THREAT to the security of the USA.

Perhaps you should start reading actual science instead of relying upon political talking points based in your ignorance.
NO...CO2 does NOT add much to a warming atmosphere. CO2 became a scapegoat, a pawn for the wealthy to make money. Man IS contributing to global warming...but it's NOT the CO2 doing it.

Want to eliminate most of the worlds problems? Eliminate half the planets population...more would be better. 80% live in less than $10 a day...half the worlds population relies on welfare...lets start there. Quit feeding them and it's done in a month.

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Perhaps YOU should use some common sense instead of being led around by the nose by science fiction.

When's the last time you witnessed the Dust Bowl or A DUST BOWL? Smog is way down, compared to years ago. We have cleaner air than we did fifty years ago.

Quit being a hysterical little girl. This is MAN's Earth and we have to live on it. If you want to clean it up, then get rid of all the cattle that feeds you. Then get rid of all the deer since there are more of them now than fifty years ago. But, I plan to live just as I wish, without worrying about some libtard and what he thinks of what the environment will be a thousand years from now. Besides, NOTHING you do will change earth quakes, Hurricanes or tornadoes. You are arrogant to think that you can have any effect on the weather. Try using your mind for critical thinking instead of listening to every quack scientist that wants to sell a book, or justify government grants he is living on.

Fact, the polar ices cap is melting and freezing in cycles. Right now, the oceans are warmer because of underseas volcanoes. That's life and you can't change it.

Spending money, wasting money on arguing climate control, is foolish. You liberals think that it is a waste of money to spend it on National Defense, but would rather worry about the temperature trend than spend the money on infrastructure. You think that abortion is the solution to over population and poverty, and yet refuse to execute scumbags that are leaches on our economy, that would kill or rape if not incarcerated.

And yet, you want the wealthy to pay for all this. If you all were paying your fair share, you would not be wishing to waste it on frivolous studies that produce nothing of substance.
Cut off welfare...stop feeding them...they're gone within a month. It's the ONLY solution. The population of poor and needy rises exponentially. They ARE unsustainable and someday DRASTIC measures will have to be taken.

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WOW what a rant from one of the most ignorant people on the site.
I supplied verifiable facts, you supplied garbage from your mouth.
Looks like your dementia is taking over your mind, better increase your meds.
Verifiable facts? That blame global warming on CO2 which contributes 0.04%?

The earth HAS been warming ever since the end of the last ice age. Slowly, in cycles...but warming nonetheless.

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Oh the frigging, flaming...purely ignorant hypocrisy.

It was people EXACTLY like you, who were screaming that we couldn't afford the automobile/factory/Etc. regulations to clean up the air...and the country would implode due to the effort.

Please don't stop though, as you continually provide belly laughs...with your massive ignorance and hypocrisy.


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We CAN'T afford half the countries population collecting welfare. We CAN'T afford 80% of the worlds population needing welfare. The planets human population MUST be decreased by more than half...or it won't end well.
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Old 09-14-2017, 12:49 PM
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That is one view.

How about he is baiting the Shummer/Pelosi no to everything that is not heirs while at the same time baiting the similar type republicans McConnel/McCain/et al.

I would bet he is playing them both and as a result will get more done than either one or any of the establishment, party first, crony politicians on either side.
Exactly. The president is a negotiator and a deal maker. He said that he would work with both sides from the very beginning. This is especially true now that a handful of Rino Republicans have decided to continue to play the Washington game so that nothing can be accomplished. The president understands that he's going to have to get some Democrats on his side in order to accomplish his goals and fulfill his promises to the American people. He also probably understands, much the way that President Reagan did, that he's going to have to give a bit in order to get something. If things go the way they have usually gone with Donald Trump, he will get a lot more than he gives.
 

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