Originally Posted by Guest

What an arrogant, naive, foolish, and completely ignorant thing for a president-elect to refuse to do. He should be in these meetings every day learning about potential threats and how the world works!
Today he took a call from Taiwan, without consulting anyone. Something that hasn't been done since the 70's! This is a right he doesn't have as president-elect. Apparently he's preoccupied with his "thank you" tour and simply doesn't care to understand the job.

Maybe the "threats" we're so afraid of...aren't real...maybe THAT is why none of the presidents attend them?

Huh? He "doesn't have the right" to TAKE a call...remember...they called him...from Taiwan? Who says that? YOU? If Taiwan called ME, I have the right to take it.

He "knows the job"...appoint who you're told to appoint, sign what you're told to sign, and travel around playing golf and meeting royalty at state dinners. What else IS there?

You think the president sits behind a desk studying papers, making plans, creating his budget...etc? His whole day is scheduled...doing something. Meetings, calls, photos, dinners, trips. He's a figurehead, others do the thinking/lifting. He signs what they hand him, he says what they wrote.

Originally Posted by Guest

absolutely FALSE.

It is NOT TRUE about Obama. The below is from early on in his presidency when the radical right wing website were simply making things up....

"The notion that Obama has skipped his intelligence briefings was promoted by a right-leaning research group called the Government Accountability Institute, which published a report detailing that the president’s daily calendar shows Obama receiving an in-person briefing on the Presidential Daily Brief (PDB) 43.8 percent of his time in office. (The percentage dropped from a high of 48.8 percent in 2010 to 38.2 percent through May of 2012.)

Marc Thiessen, a former Bush speechwriter who writes an opinion column for The Washington Post, then drew attention to what he called the “startling new statistics” in the report. His column on the subject is cited as the source in the American Crossroads ad.

That column also includes the White House’s response — that Obama reads his PDB every day, but he does not always require an in-person briefing every day. The White House argument is that this is how Obama structured his White House operation, so it is specious to say he has “skipped” a meeting that was not actually scheduled.

The PDB is a highly secret document seen only by the president and a handful of other advisers. Only a few have ever been declassified — mainly from the Lyndon Johnson era — though the famous Aug. 6, 2001, PDB warning “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.” was also declassified as part of the investigation into the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

The bogus claim that Obama 'skips’ his intelligence briefings - The Washington Post

Not quite a apple to apple comparison but the point is that all this false stuff being thrown out through twittter, etc is simply damaging to this country and that includes Trump dispensing false and inflamatory tweets. He is the President, at minimum act like a mature adult.

Now relative to the FAKE NEWS being used on this site and many others. It is dangerous for one...

"A suspect arrested Sunday with an assault rifle at a Washington, DC pizzeria admitted he had come to investigate an online conspiracy theory, Washington's Metropolitan Police Department said Sunday evening in a statement.

Police have identified him as 28-year-old Edgar Maddison Welch of Salisbury, North Carolina.

"During a post arrest interview this evening, the suspect revealed that he came to the establishment to self-investigate 'Pizza Gate' (a fictitious online conspiracy theory)," the police department said in a statement.

"Pizza Gate" is a name given to the online false news stories begun last month that charged the Comet Ping Pong restaurant and its owner were involved in a child sex operation. The owner has vehemently denied the charges, but they continued to proliferate online. The owner and employees said they were repeatedly threatened on social media.


Comet pizza shooting: Fake news story drew gunman to restaurant, police say - CNNPolitics.com

People are going to get hurt and killed someday over this stuff.

I realize some of you do not like the so caled "main stream media
" but gotta tell you as someone who reads it all, it is pretty much mostly accurate and they do no report stuff like this that you can read on the various hate sites and frankly what is scary is that our new President elect does it.

I am wiling to and have said it to give Trump a chance but this kind of stuff is juvenile and scary.

Further evidence of impact of FAKE NEWS AND frankly have seen so much of it on here and the subject of this article below was posted on here.

People believe this crap and it is dangerous.

"Eric Tucker, a 35-year-old co-founder of a marketing company in Austin, Tex., had just about 40 Twitter followers. But his recent tweet about paid protesters being bused to demonstrations against President-elect Donald J. Trump fueled a nationwide conspiracy theory — one that Mr. Trump joined in promoting.

Mr. Tucker's post was shared at least 16,000 times on Twitter and more than 350,000 times on Facebook. The problem is that Mr. Tucker got it wrong. There were no such buses packed with paid protesters.

But that didn't matter.

While some fake news is produced purposefully by teenagers in the Balkans or entrepreneurs in the United States seeking to make money from advertising, false information can also arise from misinformed social media posts by regular people that are seized on and spread through a hyperpartisan blogosphere.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/20/bu...s-spreads.html

There are childrens fables about lying and wanting to believe thus we do not check, and so much in this campaign goes to this point.

This needs fixed but not sure how you convince lazy uninformed people to read more and insure they are getting facts before flying off the handle.

Sorry if that sounds cruel but this particular story was posted and repeated on here and EVEN WITH PROOF it was a lie, it continues and to those people I simply ask...grow up, get informed and stop reading crap to make you feel good...read and investigate.

Originally Posted by guest

maybe the "threats" we're so afraid of...aren't real...maybe that is why none of the presidents attend them?

Huh? He "doesn't have the right" to take a call...remember...they called him...from taiwan? Who says that? You? If taiwan called me, i have the right to take it.

He "knows the job"...appoint who you're told to appoint, sign what you're told to sign, and travel around playing golf and meeting royalty at state dinners. What else is there?

You think the president sits behind a desk studying papers, making plans, creating his budget...etc? His whole day is scheduled...doing something. Meetings, calls, photos, dinners, trips. He's a figurehead, others do the thinking/lifting. He signs what they hand him, he says what they wrote.

wake up please

Originally Posted by Guest

Now relative to the FAKE NEWS being used on this site and many others. It is dangerous for one...

"A suspect arrested Sunday with an assault rifle at a Washington, DC pizzeria admitted he had come to investigate an online conspiracy theory, Washington's Metropolitan Police Department said Sunday evening in a statement.

Police have identified him as 28-year-old Edgar Maddison Welch of Salisbury, North Carolina.

"During a post arrest interview this evening, the suspect revealed that he came to the establishment to self-investigate 'Pizza Gate' (a fictitious online conspiracy theory)," the police department said in a statement.

"Pizza Gate" is a name given to the online false news stories begun last month that charged the Comet Ping Pong restaurant and its owner were involved in a child sex operation. The owner has vehemently denied the charges, but they continued to proliferate online. The owner and employees said they were repeatedly threatened on social media.


Comet pizza shooting: Fake news story drew gunman to restaurant, police say - CNNPolitics.com

People are going to get hurt and killed someday over this stuff.

I realize some of you do not like the so caled "main stream media
" but gotta tell you as someone who reads it all, it is pretty much mostly accurate and they do no report stuff like this that you can read on the various hate sites and frankly what is scary is that our new President elect does it.

I am wiling to and have said it to give Trump a chance but this kind of stuff is juvenile and scary.

The owner of this pizzeria and his employees have had their lives threatened. Wonder who the shooter voted for?

Trump doesn't need security briefings. He told us he only has to rely on his brain and he knows more than the generals. Why waste time going to briefings when he could be tweeting?

Originally Posted by Guest

The owner of this pizzeria and his employees have had their lives threatened. Wonder who the shooter voted for?

Trump doesn't need security briefings. He told us he only has to rely on his brain and he knows more than the generals. Why waste time going to briefings when he could be tweeting?

There can't be more than three people in this country who would believe anything so far fetched as Pizzagate and I hope there are very few who believe that the right are defacing buildings with swastikas. Nobody fights fair anymore and I blame younger people for most of this nastiness.

Trump hasn't even been sworn in yet, and he has already caused an international conflict. If he had been briefed by the state department on proper protocol, all this embarrassment for the Obama administration could have been avoided. Remember, we only have one president at a time.

Originally Posted by Guest

There can't be more than three people in this country who would believe anything so far fetched as Pizzagate and I hope there are very few who believe that the right are defacing buildings with swastikas. Nobody fights fair anymore and I blame younger people for most of this nastiness.

Sorry......this story AND the one about busing in protestors actually have appeared on this forum !!!!!

Actually referenced more than once

Originally Posted by Guest

Trump hasn't even been sworn in yet, and he has already caused an international conflict. If he had been briefed by the state department on proper protocol, all this embarrassment for the Obama administration could have been avoided. Remember, we only have one president at a time.

Maybe Trump should go on a 'world apology tour' like Obama did and kiss some more butts. Obama was so good at it though his performance would be hard for Trump to match.

Originally Posted by Guest

Trump hasn't even been sworn in yet, and he has already caused an international conflict. If he had been briefed by the state department on proper protocol, all this embarrassment for the Obama administration could have been avoided. Remember, we only have one president at a time.

The current one can be said to be feckless.

Conflict? where sent Taiwan million of dollars in military equipment, he can't take a call.

Trump is the candidate of change screw protocol


Get used to it it!

You haven't seen nothing yet

Originally Posted by Guest

The current one can be said to be feckless.

Conflict? where sent Taiwan million of dollars in military equipment, he can't take a call.

Trump is the candidate of change screw protocol


Get used to it it!

You haven't seen nothing yet

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