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Old 06-16-2015, 05:11 PM
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With all due respect for Trump, he is not electable. Case closed.

Turn attention to some actual candidates who are electable such as Cruz, Rubio, and Bush. Support real possibilites of winning and the Republicans might have a chance of winning.

Remember, though, the Republican base demographics are not in favor of a win. No Republican is going to win the Black vote, the majority of the women vote, the majority of any minority vote, nor the majority of the college educated male vote.

It will be a very tough election to win so do not back a Trump, a Graham, or a Santorum.
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With all due respect for Trump, he is not electable. Case closed.

Turn attention to some actual candidates who are electable such as Cruz, Rubio, and Bush. Support real possibilites of winning and the Republicans might have a chance of winning.

Remember, though, the Republican base demographics are not in favor of a win. No Republican is going to win the Black vote, the majority of the women vote, the majority of any minority vote, nor the majority of the college educated male vote.

It will be a very tough election to win so do not back a Trump, a Graham, or a Santorum.

And unfortunately, based on the polls, if the debates were being held today, Donald Trump would knock a more legitimate candidate off the stage, someone like Kasich for example.
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With all due respect for Trump, he is not electable. Case closed.

Turn attention to some actual candidates who are electable such as Cruz, Rubio, and Bush. Support real possibilites of winning and the Republicans might have a chance of winning.

Remember, though, the Republican base demographics are not in favor of a win. No Republican is going to win the Black vote, the majority of the women vote, the majority of any minority vote, nor the majority of the college educated male vote.

It will be a very tough election to win so do not back a Trump, a Graham, or a Santorum.
Your comments on Trump I agree with.

I will say this about your generalization on the Republican chance un 2016. I do understand your reasoning, however the Republican party does NOT NEED to win a majority of the black vote or any minority vote. Voter turnout will be vital, but just keep in mind that we are a long long way away and anything can happen.

Also, if Clinton stays as far left as she is talking now and is elected, she will get nothing done with the Republican control of congress and to over take the majority in congress will take years. IF she makes it, she will need to be the great mediator.
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Old 06-16-2015, 06:38 PM
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Trump is an excellent businessman, an excellent promoter and has tenacity and spine but his focus ,as near as I can tell, always been on what was good for him.

He is an in your face kinda guy and while it has its benefits, I beleive the liabilities tilt too heavily?

I will hold my judgments on all candidates until each has an opportunity to present their case.

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He's an excellent businessman - only been to bankruptcy four times. He's destroyed almost as many jobs as that Carly character.

How is anyone supposed to take these posts seriously?
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With all due respect for Trump, he is not electable. Case closed.

Turn attention to some actual candidates who are electable such as Cruz, Rubio, and Bush. Support real possibilites of winning and the Republicans might have a chance of winning.

Remember, though, the Republican base demographics are not in favor of a win. No Republican is going to win the Black vote, the majority of the women vote, the majority of any minority vote, nor the majority of the college educated male vote.

It will be a very tough election to win so do not back a Trump, a Graham, or a Santorum.






Neither Cruz or Rubio are electable.
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Old 06-16-2015, 06:58 PM
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With all due respect for Trump, he is not electable. Case closed.

Turn attention to some actual candidates who are electable such as Cruz, Rubio, and Bush. Support real possibilites of winning and the Republicans might have a chance of winning.

Remember, though, the Republican base demographics are not in favor of a win. No Republican is going to win the Black vote, the majority of the women vote, the majority of any minority vote, nor the majority of the college educated male vote.

It will be a very tough election to win so do not back a Trump, a Graham, or a Santorum.
I think you over generalized, I am a woman, a democrat and as a former New Yorker I've seen what Trump is capable of doing.

I think if he does go through with this he will be very successful, I don't think ego would accept anything else but success. Let's face it, he doesn't need the money, it's not like he needs the office space but a bit of immortality would probably suit him just fine.
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I think you over generalized, I am a woman, a democrat and as a former New Yorker I've seen what Trump is capable of doing.

I think if he does go through with this he will be very successful, I don't think ego would accept anything else but success. Let's face it, he doesn't need the money, it's not like he needs the office space but a bit of immortality would probably suit him just fine.
I think he can win!

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Neither Cruz or Rubio are electable.
Something about Cruz creeps me out, he looks like a combination of Eddie and Grandpa Munster.
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Even on The Five, the blonde lady and Juan Williams were both saying that Trump could not be the President he thinks he could be.

They said that no matter how much money he personally has, only Congress can authorize money for whatever project he wants. He would have to play by Washington rules and not his boardroom style of "You're Fired".

Nope, Trump is not a serious contender to be reckoned with. He is just doing this for his own ego. Never will get the nomination. Next candidate, please!

Others who will not get the nomination are Fiorina, Huckabee, Perry, Santorum, or Graham.
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Even on The Five, the blonde lady and Juan Williams were both saying that Trump could not be the President he thinks he could be.



They said that no matter how much money he personally has, only Congress can authorize money for whatever project he wants. He would have to play by Washington rules and not his boardroom style of "You're Fired".



Nope, Trump is not a serious contender to be reckoned with. He is just doing this for his own ego. Never will get the nomination. Next candidate, please!



Others who will not get the nomination are Fiorina, Huckabee, Perry, Santorum, or Graham.

Well, he has a pen and cell phone like you know who. Those are Washington rules aren't they?
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Old 06-16-2015, 08:14 PM
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Well, he has a pen and cell phone like you know who. Those are Washington rules aren't they?
Off topic and smart alec post but what else to expect?

Anyhow, the authority of Executive Order is legal but there are limits. The President cannot fire his opponents in Congress, he cannot build the Great Wall of Mexico and have the Mexicans pay for it, and he cannot do trade deals without Congressional approval.
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Juan Williams......Oh why oh why is the ROTFLMAO icon not working on my iPad ?
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He's an excellent businessman - only been to bankruptcy four times. He's destroyed almost as many jobs as that Carly character.

How is anyone supposed to take these posts seriously?
Dear guest: Actually many entrepreneurs have gone bust more than once in their lives. The guy is worth over 9 billion. And as to destroying jobs he also creates as many . would you suggest that the government continue to create jobs (government workers) because if you noticed lately taxpayers are under an incredible tax liability burden, Now there (public sector) is where we need to reduce staff.

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Old 06-17-2015, 04:11 AM
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This is what I like about Trump. He like Carly Fiorina are correct in stating that professional politicians are not a good thing for this country. we elect a president for only 8 years for a reason and those limits should apply to the 535 congressional members. It will for one limit the influence lobbyist and unions have on elected representatives.

Secondly I agree with the Democratic (New Yorker) poster observations (above).

Third, I am not 100% sure Trump cares, other than ego, to be president. However I am convinced that he believes and ants to change the political conversation in this campaign. I believe he does so because 1) he is a patriot
2) its good business 3) he dislikes the manner in which the government is dealing in foreign policy.

Fourth, Never ay never in politics. I lived in Minnesota when the Democrats (DFLers) and Republican laughed when Jesse Ventura ran Independent for governor but they didn't laugh long. and for the next four years that probably was the only time the DFLers and Republicans came together.
And need I remind posters about the last two elections because by every measure Obama was not qualified nor electable. What got him elected was he was the first president of color. Can the first woman president carry it off also? I hope so but I also hope it is a most qualified first woman because we need a class act or we are going to continue this diminutive decline. Hillary is not that qualified candidate

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