Originally Posted by harbor53

Please girlfriends - I've been attacked by y'all before...

And, I elected not to respond...until real harm came to our country. If you need the quotes..well - they are on this forum.

Now, personally - I think it's shortsighted to imply that an honest exchange of opinions might result in anything other than an honest exchange of opinions.

I'm sure you agree.

Your forever pal.

Harbor

I see your from Chicago. Nuff said.

I see you're from special ed...

Oh - when you get your panties in a bunch over my comments - remember, we all give as well as we get. Just some are smarter than others.

Unfortunately - you are not among the latter.

This wouldn't bother me...but, as of tonight - it is costing all of us money.

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

Oh I have thought about it and reading this particular thread this morning just cements a few things for me

You applaud the man who comes on here and throws verbal arrows at anyone who does not agree with HIM

After decades of spending by both parties with no thought...you blame a group of folks who want to stop that spending for the rating drop.

After watching the current President spend most of his presidency paying people off with our money to insure passage of a cost ridden bill (conveniently forgotten) you blame folks who want to stop the spending

Both parties, including your beloved Democrats...no, especially your beloved Democrats have spent us to this point, and you and the vile mouth poster blame one group of people.

Keep applauding the tone of his post which is a mirror image of our congress !

Keep preaching and blaming and just ignore the chances we get (like the politically motivated airport debacle).....keep preaching not to vote incumbents in and allowing yourself an out every time to continue this madness....I cannot believe that folks actually think this downgrade came as a result of the Tea Party..that is just plain stupid. This is a judgement, not only on money, but on our politicians and from my recollection the group you blame is brand new and those who espouse "tea party thinking" have been in office for about 8 months and according to you two, in 8 months they have brought us down.

You and the person who damns anyone who gets in his way actually just pontificate to us poor know nothings and attempt to make everyone feel guilty for wanting this crap to stop.

I am not a "tea partier" or whatever the label you folks want to choose (and name calling and labeling seems to be part of the game with you folks) and do not applaud what they do at times but I do applaud the attitude.

And despite you two knowing what we obviously dont understand, I think...I said think...it is a bit more complicated and less black/white than you two want to make it.

YOU two condemn idealogy but use it to preach to everyone else. You two condemn partisan politics and practice it on here always.

To blame a movement like the tea party for this rating drop is extreme narrow minded thinking in my opinion.

Originally Posted by harbor53

You sir, demean the word,"idiot."

Ridicule. Alinsky would be proud of you. Democrats have the most vile and vulgar people under their heathen tent.

Originally Posted by harbor53

I see you're from special ed...

Oh - when you get your panties in a bunch over my comments - remember, we all give as well as we get. Just some are smarter than others.

Unfortunately - you are not among the latter.

This wouldn't bother me...but, as of tonight - it is costing all of us money.

Hm. Must be sleeping in this morning.

“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.”

Barack Obama, 2006. Sounds like a tea partier, no?

Originally Posted by harbor53

Billy -

You guys with your smug, stupid rhetoric have scr-wed all of us.

You might not like me...but I was ready to invest over 2 g's into The Villages. That was good for you and everyone else who bought in.

Now, I'm on the sidelines until the dust settles. I will not be the only one....

What does that mean? In the short term...a bunch of money to folks who want to sell...plus the developers (who want to sell)...plus folks who just bought in (as their homes could decline inprice - even as they are still in construction).

Ignorant political decisions have consequences. Ask Iranians.

Biily Boy...Keep looking into the mirror and smiling...

I'm sure this will make you feel better.

Harbor

...what brings on such a threatening message as this?

Originally Posted by KatzPajamas

...what brings on such a threatening message as this?

He is quite the charmer, huh?

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

He is quite the charmer, huh?

Yeah, he "was ready to invest over 2 g's into The Villages. That was good for you and everyone else who bought in." Hope you all aren't on suicide watch over the loss. By the way, where i come from 2 g's is $2000.00. what am I missing here?

Originally Posted by harbor53

You sir, demean the word,"idiot."

What is wrong with you? What did I say to deserve the vitriol here? I don't even know you and you act like I disrespected your sister. A bit overboard on the anger, I would say.

Wow,,,,TOTV is getting crazy, and not that much fun anymore, its ok to disagree, but why be so disagreeable?

Originally Posted by KatzPajamas

...what brings on such a threatening message as this?

Kitten:

I learned a long time ago, to never threaten. In my world - we never do that.

That I call ya'll out for ignorant and costly rhetoric - well, that is what goes on here. You and Billy and the golfer and that guy with the cat...you've been rude and insulting to folks who differ from your opinion for a long, long time. If you need me to provide you with examples (which I have already done) just ask.

When I first joined this forum, I thought it was a nice place to discuss honest political opinions. Then I caught on. This is a place where folks just insult one another. Unfortunately, much of this is done out of ignorance and from a decidedly right wing perspective.

You know, I would debate you in a rational and reasonable way...but, for whatever the reason - the moderators have let this place descend to the WWF. Well, in terms of politics - I've never really worried about being the popular guy.

My Tea Party post (several days old) was only resurrected because the post I made today on religion was too informed for you to attack. Kinda pathetic, huh?

You think of the left as weak kneed liberals. Well, based on Obama's performance - that is an easy assumption. But, some of us -while we might support the President as he is our last best choice - well, we remember the costs of real social disruption.

While, I have disassociated myself from the hardcore left years ago - I know what it is capable of. It is the same kind of horror that the hard core right (remember Oklahoma?) has demonstrated. Smug and self-satisfied comments will not protect you or me.

I love London - I used to visit it every year. The riots sadden me. But - the rage that comes out from wealth being concentrated in so few hands with a huge number of folks left with no hope of mobility...well, stuff happens.

I love our country - but, I recognize that if we continue on the road we've been on...this country will explode in ways that make the last week in London look like Disney in late September.

You think of me as rude and abusive. I'm the best freaken friend you've got as hubris is a dangerous thing and our country is on the verge of a huge paradigm shift.

My guess is that you and your other pals don't fully understand what I'm saying. It's the same lack of intellect that causes you to resurrect this old post instead of addressing my most recent post.

Read Lenin. Read Marx. Read Mao. Read Marat and pray a Danton will emerge.

We have been so comfortably free for so, so long. Hopeless people are inherently tribal (see my most recent post on religion).

You think I'm rude? I'm honest and you guys - though you might not know it today - are in a remake of "The Wages of Fear."

Harbor

Some people would think you are a little unstable and should be investigated by the authorities. I believe that your just a little man looking for attention. You do not impress me at all.

Lastly - if you think I'm chicken little...this is how it will happen....

It will start with minorities and the poor rioting in urban areas. That will be a side show.

The real threat will be your left-wing kids who will hack our power grid, our nuclear plants, our fiscal infrastructure.

They will succumb to egalitarian ideals. They are well meaning and naive. And they are capable of horrible actions.

We waste tax dollars on weapon systems to fight the Soviets 30 years ago.

You want national security? Pay for kids to go to college, major in computer science and then join the NSA. They are the Seal Team and Delta Force of the future.

Your best friend -

Harbor

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

Some people would think you are a little unstable and should be investigated by the authorities. I believe that your just a little man looking for attention. You do not impress me at all.

Again - you sir, are an idiot.