Originally Posted by Guest

I saw some Trump sign carriers at both Mullbery and Tiera ... amazingly they looked like smart people, but those Trump signs in their hands led me to assume otherwise.

Don't worry, I am sure that they had no doubt in regards to you.

Originally Posted by Guest

Urban myth, spread no doubt by the Breitbarts and other asses from the right wing media.

You seem to be an expert on posteriors. And we know your fearless leader is familiar with posteriors, as he leads from behind.....

This is just an example of the direction this country is headed. Anything Goes. We need to stop the mail in votes, absentee votes, and all the other subsiderary voting and make people go to the voting booth to vote. And by the way if your not 18 you can't vote. Where do these new rules come from, I know I didn't vote yes that 17 year olds can vote, nor for any of the other new rules for voting. The people of this country should have more imput besides their elected officials on what happens in this new world of ours, or is this politicly incorrect to do.

if this thread had anymore tangents it would be a double octopus.

I am definitely in favor of having 17 year old kids vote in the primary if they will be 18 for the general election.

The young voters have an open mind on issues and candidates.

On the other hand, the old timers of 85 and above should not be able to vote anymore. Most of their minds have turned into mush and they are riddled with dementia. The country would be a lot better off in these were purged from voter rolls.

17 year olds should not have the right to vote. Today's mindset, it seems, is what difference does it make. Well the difference is our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Laws of the Land. I'm thinking that one or the other political institutions think it may get them more votes. As I said, I did not get to vote on this change and it should be voted on not just decided by someone with the wrong mindset our our laws.

Originally Posted by Guest

17 year olds should not have the right to vote. Today's mindset, it seems, is what difference does it make. Well the difference is our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Laws of the Land. I'm thinking that one or the other political institutions think it may get them more votes. As I said, I did not get to vote on this change and it should be voted on not just decided by someone with the wrong mindset our our laws.

No one is saying that 17 year olds can vote in a General election.

At what age do you believe voters should be removed from voter rolls?

Sorry I'm speaking about the recent decision I believe in Ohio that allows 17 year olds who will be 18 by the General Election to vote in 2016 Presidential Primary.
There should be no change in the 18 year old voters right.

In Ohio, persons who will be 18 as of the date of the general election have been allowed to vote in the primary for that general election for several decades. It makes sense that they should be able to and it is up to the state to make that determination.
"17-year-olds can vote in primaries and caucuses in large number of states, including Alaska, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Mississippi, Nebraska, Nevada, North Carolina, Ohio*, South Carolina, Virginia, Vermont, Washington, West Virginia, and Wyoming. Seventeen-year-olds may also vote in District of Columbia primaries. Most have done this by state law, but others by changing state party rules. "

Here is the Ohio law from 1981
3503.011 Qualifications of electors for primary elections.

At a primary election every qualified elector who is or will be on the day of the next general election eighteen or more years of age, and who is a member of or is affiliated with the political party whose primary election ballot he desires to vote, shall be entitled to vote such ballot at the primary election.


Now explain to me why a GOP secretary of state would say that 17 year olds cannot vote in a primary? Democracy is always advantaged by allowing eligible voters the opportunity to exercise their vote. Sadly that right is now opposed by one party far too often. Every Ohio Sec of State since 1981 has understood the law and allowed 17 year old voters. It was this SOS, Husted, who apparently can't understand the law he is there to administer. And a judge set him straight.

It is my opinion that 17 year olds should not be able to vote. I understand it works the same for either party etc. Why not make it 16 years of age then, what difference does it make. They have a drivers license and I'm guessing they have to declare their political preference at that age as well. Laws of adult age for drinking, per say, have been established for a reason and it's based on when we think a child has to potential to make the right decision.
I believe the age for voting was originally established for the same reason.
Can you imagine a child lawfully drinking at 17. The establishments, in my opinion have overstepped their obligation to do the will of the people. That' why this voting question, I believe, like the drinking age should be put before the people to decide whether or not a child should be able to vote in the Presidential Primary.

Originally Posted by Guest

It is my opinion that 17 year olds should not be able to vote. I understand it works the same for either party etc. Why not make it 16 years of age then, what difference does it make. They have a drivers license and I'm guessing they have to declare their political preference at that age as well. Laws of adult age for drinking, per say, have been established for a reason and it's based on when we think a child has to potential to make the right decision.
I believe the age for voting was originally established for the same reason.
Can you imagine a child lawfully drinking at 17. The establishments, in my opinion have overstepped their obligation to do the will of the people. That' why this voting question, I believe, like the drinking age should be put before the people to decide whether or not a child should be able to vote in the Presidential Primary.

I am going to type very slowly so you can understand the law. I will not bother with explaining about how we have legislatures to enact laws, executives to sign and enforce, and judges to interpret for another day. But we don't put every issue before the voter in part because some voters don't read or understand apparently.
The law in Ohio and elsewhere is very specific. Pay attention. If you are going to be 18 (Eighteen) on the day of the general election in November, then in that case you may also vote in a primary to select which candidates will appear for your party on that ballot. Not all 17 year olds can vote in the primary, only those who will be 18 by election day. So your rant about 16 year olds is God awful stupid isn't it?

Originally Posted by Guest

I am going to type very slowly so you can understand the law. I will not bother with explaining about how we have legislatures to enact laws, executives to sign and enforce, and judges to interpret for another day. But we don't put every issue before the voter in part because some voters don't read or understand apparently.
The law in Ohio and elsewhere is very specific. Pay attention. If you are going to be 18 (Eighteen) on the day of the general election in November, then in that case you may also vote in a primary to select which candidates will appear for your party on that ballot. Not all 17 year olds can vote in the primary, only those who will be 18 by election day. So your rant about 16 year olds is God awful stupid isn't it?

You could have left out that last line when responding to that person's post. Was that really necessary?

Everyone making such a fuss over this.

It's all irrelevant. It doesn't matter because you will pick one of their bought and paid for talking heads. Trump, Sanders, Clinton, it doesn't matter. The corporations own them all. Trump is a financier, he's in with the bankers. Nothing of significance beyond social issues will change with any of them. The money will flow.

Originally Posted by Guest

Everyone making such a fuss over this.

It's all irrelevant. It doesn't matter because you will pick one of their bought and paid for talking heads. Trump, Sanders, Clinton, it doesn't matter. The corporations own them all. Trump is a financier, he's in with the bankers. Nothing of significance beyond social issues will change with any of them. The money will flow.

Did you have a point?

The post was a bait thread, to get people riled up over a supposed suggestion that a Canadian was told he/she could vote. Total BS, but still that's the subject, not voting age.

I'm sorry if some of you took my opinions as bait.
I merely wanted to wanted to express my opinion on:
1. Voting Age
and
2. A law that I thought should be on a ballot

Apparently the repeater responding to my posts had no opinion of their own, other than to follow whatever laws are forced on us by those Talking Heads, as one has put it.

Well let's hope those Heads don't take away our Freedom of Speech less we'd have to close this Forum. Thus people are able to call others Stupid.