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You could have left out that last line when responding to that person's post. Was that really necessary?

Their self imposed limitations do not allow reasonableness.

Originally Posted by Guest

It doesn't matter because you will pick one of their bought and paid for talking heads. Sanders. The corporations own them all. Nothing of significance beyond social issues will change with any of them. The money will flow.

I'm guessing you don't know who is financing Sanders. You will be pleasantly surprised.

https://berniesanders.com/press-rele...raising-power/

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I'm guessing you don't know who is financing Sanders. You will be pleasantly surprised.

https://berniesanders.com/press-rele...raising-power/

None of that matters, just like Trump not taking whomever's money either. it's just part of the theater. This is what the "primaries" are for, to whittle down the field of bought and paid for candidates to "the lesser of two evils" that the public will accept and vote for. ANY candidate that gets the D or R party nomination, is bought and paid for.

As long as people keep voting for a D or R nothing will really change. A few social issue bones will be thrown our way as they loot us. It's not a choice for you if I decide which two you can choose from.

Originally Posted by Guest

None of that matters, just like Trump not taking whomever's money either. it's just part of the theater. This is what the "primaries" are for, to whittle down the field of bought and paid for candidates to "the lesser of two evils" that the public will accept and vote for. ANY candidate that gets the D or R party nomination, is bought and paid for.

As long as people keep voting for a D or R nothing will really change. A few social issue bones will be thrown our way as they loot us. It's not a choice for you if I decide which two you can choose from.

Maybe you need to do a little more digging, a little more reading and a little less stereotyping based on hearsay. I know it takes effort.

Trump is paying for everything by loaning himself money. Later with other peoples money coming in he will be paying himself back. He's not worth 10 billion by accident.

Sanders is worth about $520k, big deal. If he was lining his pockets all along he would be doing better. His supporters are paying the campaign bill at about $27 per person.

Originally Posted by Guest

Maybe you need to do a little more digging, a little more reading and a little less stereotyping based on hearsay. I know it takes effort.

Trump is paying for everything by loaning himself money. Later with other peoples money coming in he will be paying himself back. He's not worth 10 billion by accident.

Sanders is worth about $520k, big deal. If he was lining his pockets all along he would be doing better. His supporters are paying the campaign bill at about $27 per person.

Bernie is an Anti-American jerk and will probably shrivel up and croak well before the elections anyway. He is an ancient throw back to stalin and probably has more in common with Bill Ayers than Americans. I am glad that only ignorant young people are supporting the clown, Bernie. Young people believe they are entitled and he is pandering to them. No adult is stupid enough to listen to his anti-American garbage, even if they are Democrats.

Originally Posted by Guest

None of that matters, just like Trump not taking whomever's money either. it's just part of the theater. This is what the "primaries" are for, to whittle down the field of bought and paid for candidates to "the lesser of two evils" that the public will accept and vote for. ANY candidate that gets the D or R party nomination, is bought and paid for.

As long as people keep voting for a D or R nothing will really change. A few social issue bones will be thrown our way as they loot us. It's not a choice for you if I decide which two you can choose from.

I will preface this by saying that I did not vote for Trump. I voted against him, not that it will do any good.

You have a very bad outlook on elections. You say "any candidate...D or R...is bought and paid for." If that is the case, Trump would not be having to fight both the D's AND the Republican establishment. Trump is considered a dangerous disruption to the RNC and out of their control. The RNC wants to control their candidates and he is out of control. Yet, he has brought millions of new voters out to vote for him. If you think that all candidates are bought, then explain the details of who controls Trump.

By your way of thinking, I suppose that you do not vote, because all candidates are evil and controlled.

Even though I do not like Trump and think he is out of control, he is bringing something to the party that hasn't been there for a long time....an influx of new voters. That is why everyone from the left, plus the RNC are ganging up on him. And he will probably win, in spite of all the opposition. He may very well be what we need right now.....even if he is crude. We need something drastic after Obama has injured our country so badly.

Originally Posted by Guest

I will preface this by saying that I did not vote for Trump. I voted against him, not that it will do any good.

You have a very bad outlook on elections. You say "any candidate...D or R...is bought and paid for." If that is the case, Trump would not be having to fight both the D's AND the Republican establishment. Trump is considered a dangerous disruption to the RNC and out of their control. The RNC wants to control their candidates and he is out of control. Yet, he has brought millions of new voters out to vote for him. If you think that all candidates are bought, then explain the details of who controls Trump.

By your way of thinking, I suppose that you do not vote, because all candidates are evil and controlled.

Even though I do not like Trump and think he is out of control, he is bringing something to the party that hasn't been there for a long time....an influx of new voters. That is why everyone from the left, plus the RNC are ganging up on him. And he will probably win, in spite of all the opposition. He may very well be what we need right now.....even if he is crude. We need something drastic after Obama has injured our country so badly.

If/when the R party "accepts him and endorses him" you will know he's been "captured" by them. He IS a financier, he hangs with the big bankers, that's a strike against him right there. You don't get $billion loans if you're not "connected". I'm afraid he's a fraud, all talk, he wants the title and will, like the rest, do and say anything to get it.

I don't vote for any D or R candidates. I thought of running for Congress when I retired, I knew of the corruption and wanted to change the world, I had the time now. Well, "they", the Ds and Rs, the "system" has made it virtually impossible to run without D or R nomination. ANY independent has gone through hell to get on the ballot. They've gotten ten of thousands of signatures, they deserve your vote more than a prostitute working for big money. You/we all lose when a D or R gets elected.

He may well be "our Hitler", if he goes independent, forms his own party...

Originally Posted by Guest

If/when the R party "accepts him and endorses him" you will know he's been "captured" by them. He IS a financier, he hangs with the big bankers, that's a strike against him right there. You don't get $billion loans if you're not "connected". I'm afraid he's a fraud, all talk, he wants the title and will, like the rest, do and say anything to get it.

I don't vote for any D or R candidates. I thought of running for Congress when I retired, I knew of the corruption and wanted to change the world, I had the time now. Well, "they", the Ds and Rs, the "system" has made it virtually impossible to run without D or R nomination. ANY independent has gone through hell to get on the ballot. They've gotten ten of thousands of signatures, they deserve your vote more than a prostitute working for big money. You/we all lose when a D or R gets elected.

He may well be "our Hitler", if he goes independent, forms his own party...

I feel sorry for you. YOU have a very negative outlook on life. I wonder what you really expect from anyone that is elected in politics. Just a note, if you don't vote, then you really have no position in the status of our government. If you are anti-establishment, then vote for the socialist. He proclaims (falsely) that he is anti-establishment. But, the only time he wasn't part of the establishment was the first 40 years of his life when he was an unemployed hippie.

Originally Posted by Guest

I feel sorry for you. YOU have a very negative outlook on life. I wonder what you really expect from anyone that is elected in politics. Just a note, if you don't vote, then you really have no position in the status of our government. If you are anti-establishment, then vote for the socialist. He proclaims (falsely) that he is anti-establishment. But, the only time he wasn't part of the establishment was the first 40 years of his life when he was an unemployed hippie.

I have a very negative outlook on the psychopaths who "lead" us. They're ALL power hungry crooks out to get what they can. Everything is done with underhanded deals.

What do I expect? How about the physicians motto? Do no harm? I expect them to provide the conditions under which people can be free to do what they want. Which is the opposite of what they do now. They make MORE rules and regulations. Most are FILLED with perks for their "contributors".

If you DON'T have a negative outlook on government, you're either naive, intentionally overlook it, or an imbecile.

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If you are anti-establishment, then vote for the socialist. He proclaims (falsely) that he is anti-establishment. But, the only time he wasn't part of the establishment was the first 40 years of his life when he was an unemployed hippie.

What would your political advice be for young Bernie? Work within the establishment for change or work outside of the establishment? I'm glad he is part of the establishment.

Read about a politician I do admire.

Former Rep. Wayne Gilchrest sees 'a political system infiltrated with sociopaths - tribunedigital-baltimoresun

I know this man because his son married my niece. We've had dinner and it was amazing listening to his beltway stories.

"While teaching at Kent County High School on the Eastern Shore, Gilchrest ran against four-term 1st District Democratic incumbent Roy Dyson in 1988. Dyson was plagued by allegations of improper contributions from defense contractors,[3] questions about his sexual orientation,[4] and the suicide of his top staffer.[5] Despite being badly outspent, Gilchrest lost narrowly to Dyson.[6] He sought a rematch in 1990; this time soundly beating Dyson by 14%."

I could support him too but he was pushed out by his own party.

Originally Posted by Guest

I will preface this by saying that I did not vote for Trump. I voted against him, not that it will do any good.

You have a very bad outlook on elections. You say "any candidate...D or R...is bought and paid for." If that is the case, Trump would not be having to fight both the D's AND the Republican establishment. Trump is considered a dangerous disruption to the RNC and out of their control. The RNC wants to control their candidates and he is out of control. Yet, he has brought millions of new voters out to vote for him. If you think that all candidates are bought, then explain the details of who controls Trump.

By your way of thinking, I suppose that you do not vote, because all candidates are evil and controlled.

Even though I do not like Trump and think he is out of control, he is bringing something to the party that hasn't been there for a long time....an influx of new voters. That is why everyone from the left, plus the RNC are ganging up on him. And he will probably win, in spite of all the opposition. He may very well be what we need right now.....even if he is crude. We need something drastic after Obama has injured our country so badly.

'Trump is considered a dangerous disruption to the RNC and out of their control."


"We need something drastic after Obama has injured our country so badly."

Sounds like the same thing the repub establishment is saying. So, you are as bad as them.

Originally Posted by Guest

'Trump is considered a dangerous disruption to the RNC and out of their control."


"We need something drastic after Obama has injured our country so badly."

Sounds like the same thing the repub establishment is saying. So, you are as bad as them.

It is obvious the only politicians, people and countries that think Trump is dangerous are the ones who have much to lose if he is elected. The establishment like the political party, do nothing, cronyism, keep my donors happy as they focus on re-election. Don't do anything or say anythin that might offend anybody. Do not represent we the people.

They do not like that he is a threat to the status quo of both parties.

As for the countries that dislike him it is simply because he is a threat to their financial and trade benefits at the expense of America and it's people.
They do not want the flow of billions to be interrupted.

Originally Posted by Guest

'Trump is considered a dangerous disruption to the RNC and out of their control."


"We need something drastic after Obama has injured our country so badly."

Sounds like the same thing the repub establishment is saying. So, you are as bad as them.

?????????????

Originally Posted by Guest

I believe you too. What neither of us knows is what your friend, verbatim, was told, what she "heard" and what she "assumed, what the Trump supporter was told to say, and what Trump told those organizers to do.

I find it amusing that this thread hints at REPUBLICAN voter fraud.
Let's face it, it is the DEMOCRATS that receive 99.98% of votes from dead people, 99.98% of the votes from illegal aliens, and 99.98% of the votes from those who voted multiple times, and gain from the 99.98% of the votes blocked by black panther intimidation at polls. If it gets any worse, just declare the USA a banana republic.

Lets look at documented in person voter fraud in Texas:

Texas governor helps debunk his own voter-fraud argument | MSNBC

As for the Black Panthers...2 of them at 1 polling place caused 99.98% of voters from voting....seriously!

Originally Posted by Guest

Maybe you need to do a little more digging, a little more reading and a little less stereotyping based on hearsay. I know it takes effort.

Trump is paying for everything by loaning himself money. Later with other peoples money coming in he will be paying himself back. He's not worth 10 billion by accident.

Sanders is worth about $520k, big deal. If he was lining his pockets all along he would be doing better. His supporters are paying the campaign bill at about $27 per person.

Originally Posted by Guest

I am definitely in favor of having 17 year old kids vote in the primary if they will be 18 for the general election.



The young voters have an open mind on issues and candidates.

On the other hand, the old timers of 85 and above should not be able to vote anymore. Most of their minds have turned into mush and they are riddled with dementia. The country would be a lot better off in these were purged from voter rolls.

This laughable! 17 years old have been brainwashed by their teachers. Molded into the liberal way for greed, government handout, and 100% Union unfunded retirement to substation the voting base. If anybody should be purged from government it's the 80 plus year old politician's and supreme courts justices.