Originally Posted by Guest

I suppose reading posts 10 years old would mean the same to you as dredging up 10 year old news items about Obama on a thread about a new HUD possible appointee.

They are following the lead of Trump. Divert! Divert! Divert!

If something goes wrong, blame it on Obama.

Don't look at what the Republicans did for eight years under Obama. As soon as the Democrats do the same to them, call them obstructionists.

Concerning the original, this woman maybe the only one that would accept the job. Look at the number of unfilled positions now. Look at Trump's staff, they are running out there to get lawyers to protect themselves. Who wants to get involved in that nonsense? So, you are going to get a lot of unqualified people accepting jobs that they have no clue how to handle.

They can always follow Jaret's lead. Sit there listen, nod your head, and don't say anything.

Originally Posted by blueash

Thank you for this information. It was not posted with links so at least for those which can be fact checked I will help you.



1. Gave up law license (I wonder why?)

I have given up professional licenses in 3 states.

re Obama

The Obamas' Law Licenses - FactCheck.org

Barack and Michelle Obama Lost Their Law Licenses

Do Barack Obama and Michelle Obama have valid law licenses? - Quora



now you don't have to wonder why.



2. Never published an article in Harvard Law Review but was the editor.

Yes he did both

The President’s Role in Advancing Criminal Justice Reform - The President’s Role in Advancing Criminal Justice Reform

Obama kept Law Review balanced - POLITICO

Perhaps you could undertake the time to research whether other editors of the Harvard Law Review published their own articles or if they found the task of going to school and editing the Review sufficient.



3. No one remembers him from his 2 years at Columbia



http://www.factcheck.org/2010/02/oba...ia-university/

https://www.college.columbia.edu/cct.../alumni_corner



4. Ran ACORN

No he did not, and ACORN was not shut down for voter fraud.

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/10/acorn-accusations/



5. and 6. Cannot be fact checked but reflect your opinion. As to whether he is Anti-Semitic, perhaps that those who would be most sensitive to that issue, Jews, voted for him by 70 to 30 or better in both his POTUS runs suggests overwhelmingly Jews don't find him anti-Semitic.



So you have the opportunity to reply with citations to try to justify your "facts" and innuendo.

I've already posted a link to some material about their law licenses.

Here' a piece from the Jerusalem Post: http://m.jpost.com/app/article/392188


Look, we can counter-link each other forever, and I'm not interested in wasting my life. We have different opinions & differing sources - I can accept that.



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This was your post to me....rockyrd...

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"You're upset about "boys" being demeaning? That's ripe! Go back and read your own posts.

P.S. I wasn't reading your posts 10 years ago, Or even 2 years ago. Why would I care enough to read 10 year old threads?

P.P.S. You must have used a different name, or been thrown off TOTV since your current pseudonym has only been on TOTV since 2015.

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Ok "boy"

I am posting this as Bucco. I have never been thrown off any board. I changed my name.....ready for it....because I am a true conservative and was being hassled for being so anti Obama.

You see, a true conservative believes in moral character, and ethics. I was an active working Republican until the primary.

That my party could allow one if the most decrepit people in the face of this earth to be nominated just sickened me. To give up any moral ground just hurt, so I left the party and became an Independent. I still believe in conservative VALUES and those values do not allow me to "support" a morally bankrupt person, and to be unable to support him and instead muster up hate and sheer evil to be my motivation.

I am a patriot, served my coubtry, practiced politics, stated active and refuse to allow my country to be ripped apart and embarrassed ON A WORLD STAGE by a 3rd or 4th rate human being. I will oppose anyone who tears down my country for his own gain.

I referred to my posts of 10 years ago to make my point. I am sick and tired of defending myself to hypocrites like you and others. People who HATE OBama HATE Clinton so much they allow our country to be taken over by this person. I love my country first and found the nomination if Trump to be nauseating.

I read here...you people do not defend him...you attack those who are open enough to point out what he is doing to the country. You bring up OBama and Clinton as if that meant something.

You are all hypocrites if the first degree....you hate this country or you would not allow this to happen..,you would speak up instead of shouting out OBama or Clinton.

I took them to task many times is why I referred you to this screen name, but again...the country is first, not a morally corrupt person who is ripping this country to pieces and making money doing it. He changes our foreign policy for HIM, not the USA. He lies from OUR White House, and you endorse it making you just as bad..

I am now back as rockyrd.

As to my manner of speaking. This is not comfortable for me. I much prefer to talk the issues but you and the other Trump supporters can only attack and be sarcastic about those who read and are aware. Thus my attitude.

Your ilk is so sad..you have truely been conned...he has lied and will make millions off your support. NEVER call yourself a conservative....you are not. A true conservative has moral values, which our President has NONE.

I frankly find you people changing the subject all the time to OBama or Clinton, unable to defend Trump very sad and embarrassing.

Originally Posted by Rockyrd

I am now back as rockyrd.

As to my manner of speaking. This is not comfortable for me. I much prefer to talk the issues but you and the other Trump supporters can only attack and be sarcastic about those who read and are aware. Thus my attitude.

Your ilk is so sad..you have truely been conned...he has lied and will make millions off your support. NEVER call yourself a conservative....you are not. A true conservative has moral values, which our President has NONE.

I frankly find you people changing the subject all the time to OBama or Clinton, unable to defend Trump very sad and embarrassing.

You're mistaking me for someone else. You have no idea how conservative I am, what I stand for, or my background. Those make you completely unable to make a judgement about my morals or values.

So don't even attempt to lecture me, Bucco, Rockyrd, or whatever your name is.

And since you brought it up, read my posts on this thread. Not once did I mention Trump. Nor have I been conned. On the other hand, you are completely blinded by your hatred of Trump. That makes you unable to clearly and critically analyze.


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Originally Posted by Guest

You're mistaking me for someone else. You have no idea how conservative I am, what I stand for, or my background. Those make you completely unable to make a judgement about my morals or values.

So don't even attempt to lecture me, Bucco, Rockyrd, or whatever your name is.

And since you brought it up, read my posts on this thread. Not once did I mention Trump. Nor have I been conned. On the other hand, you are completely blinded by your hatred of Trump. That makes you unable to clearly and critically analyze.


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I know you support Trump and what he stands for.

Maybe I am blind in regards to him, and maybe you do have the moral high ground. All I know changing US foreign policy (Qatar) for his business interests, firing and demeaning anyone who might want truth, demoralizing this country with accusations and lies.....I will always take the opposite side of that.

We will find out in time about right and wrong. If I am wrong and the lies turn to truth, and the accusations all prove to be true, and all his firings of good Americans are justified, I will easily apologize to you in this forum or anywhere.

And coming on a thread about a HUD appointee in 2017 and referring to "wivestales" or lies back 10 years does say quite a bit.

No, I have no idea how conservative you are, but I know you do not share what used to be conservative and Republican moral values. You have , what appears to be, a festering hate for OBama which is obviously stuck 10 years ago.

Originally Posted by Rockyrd

I know you support Trump and what he stands for.



Maybe I am blind in regards to him, and maybe you do have the moral high ground. All I know changing US foreign policy (Qatar) for his business interests, firing and demeaning anyone who might want truth, demoralizing this country with accusations and lies.....I will always take the opposite side of that.



We will find out in time about right and wrong. If I am wrong and the lies turn to truth, and the accusations all prove to be true, and all his firings of good Americans are justified, I will easily apologize to you in this forum or anywhere.

I certainly support some of the things Trump is doing, but that does not mean I support all he does, or wants to do. None of this means that I am not a conservative, however.


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Originally Posted by Guest

I certainly support some of the things Trump is doing, but that does not mean I support all he does, or wants to do. None of this means that I am not a conservative, however.


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Well, your response about OBama on a thread on HUD offering some sort of comparison, and knowing what he is NOW..PRESENT TIME...doing in Qatar AND WHY, what he is proposing to help Russia with on sanctions, how he has fired good Americans for searching for truth and your silence and dupiverting such says quite a bit.

By the way, I support much if what he says, but not what he is doing...although I was happy with Cuba decision, but the damage being done to our democracy is going to last a long time, which is the publicly stated wish of his closest advisor (Bannon).

But my feeling in you is based only on what you post, and you sure seem to support what he says and does, and are still in election mode like him.

Originally Posted by dbussone

I've already posted a link to some material about their law licenses.

Here' a piece from the Jerusalem Post: http://m.jpost.com/app/article/392188

Look, we can counter-link each other forever, and I'm not interested in wasting my life. We have different opinions & differing sources - I can accept that.

The problem is, you simply posted a lying list of long-time right-wing talking points that have been proved demonstrably false...and expect others to just believe them as you do.

I get it, I really do, that you probably believe them because you haven't bothered looking deeper and that they fit your bias, narrative and agenda, but you have to understand...that there are many others that prefer facts and the truth.

Which also explains why Trump has a small hardcore of cultist supporters, that have no problem with his lies, sneakiness and outright bullying...toward those that dare to question him (and, quite frankly, his saneness).



Deepest Sincere Wishes:

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

The problem is, you simply posted a lying list of long-time right-wing talking points that have been proved demonstrably false...and expect others to just believe them as you do.



I get it, I really do, that you probably believe them because you haven't bothered looking deeper and that they fit your bias, narrative and agenda, but you have to understand...that there are many others that prefer facts and the truth.



Which also explains why Trump has a small hardcore of cultist supporters, that have no problem with his lies, sneakiness and outright bullying...toward those that dare to question him (and, quite frankly, his saneness).







Deepest Sincere Wishes:

That's simply your simple opinion. I could use numerous adjectives about you - but I won't.


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Originally Posted by Guest

That's simply your simple opinion. I could use numerous adjectives about you - but I won't.

The list you originally posted, were simply "opinions"...yet you presented them as facts.

THAT is the whole issue.

As far as 'adjectives,' it's not like I really care...so by all means go ahead.



Deepest Sincere Wishes:

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

The list you originally posted, were simply "opinions"...yet you presented them as facts.



THAT is the whole issue.



As far as 'adjectives,' it's not like I really care...so by all means go ahead.







Deepest Sincere Wishes:

You are an oxymoron. You are, frequently, what you proclaimed you would fight against. :Oops:


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Originally Posted by Guest

Well, your response about OBama on a thread on HUD offering some sort of comparison, and knowing what he is NOW..PRESENT TIME...doing in Qatar AND WHY, what he is proposing to help Russia with on sanctions, how he has fired good Americans for searching for truth and your silence and dupiverting such says quite a bit.

By the way, I support much if what he says, but not what he is doing...although I was happy with Cuba decision, but the damage being done to our democracy is going to last a long time, which is the publicly stated wish of his closest advisor (Bannon).

But my feeling in you is based only on what you post, and you sure seem to support what he says and does, and are still in election mode like him.

A lot of the damage to our democracy was done in the last eight years, and not by Obama. The Republicans opposed everything he wanted done. Obamacare is modeled after Republican plans for healthcare. Not only did they oppose it, they want to go back to healthcare that wasn't working for everybody. The amount health insurance carriers charged went up every year prior to ACA. Why would anyone want to go back to that?

By opposing everything, the Republicans gained control of both houses, and now the presidency. Part of the problem is internal. The Freedom Caucus, Tea Party, is too far right, and is opposing members of their own party. Conservatives are called Rinos even though their beliefs haven't changed.

As a person that has never has had to listen to anyone, and always got his way, unless he was sued, is now our president. Since the Republicans control both houses, he thinks he can do whatever he pleases. When you listen to him talk, he believes that he can do anything that he wants. So, his big mouth and fingers are constantly getting him in trouble.

He is not going to change. He wants people in top positions to be his lap boys/girls. So, he puts people that are totally unqualified, or opposed to the government department they are in charge of. As long as they never question him, and always praise him, they can stay.

The democracy will not be hurt, if they can get him out of there in one big hurry. He is giving them the reason to do it. Bill Mahar said, that Nixon had deep throat causing all the problems he had. For Trump his deep throat is Donald Trump.

Concerning the unqualified woman put in charge of NY, and NJ HUD, it won't be a problem as long as she has qualified people working for her, and she follows their advice. All she has to be is a Yes Woman!

draining the swamp was suppose to include getting rid of patronage jobs. Like that is going to happen.

Originally Posted by Guest

You are an oxymoron. You are, frequently, what you proclaimed you would fight against. :Oops:

There's that 'opinion' thing masquerading as 'fact' again.

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

There's that 'opinion' thing masquerading as 'fact' again.

True, it's my opinion you are, vs your opinion you aren't.


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