Originally Posted by Guest

its 2016, not 1961.

Cuba as our friend is much better than Cuba as an enemy.

Bowing down to the enemy. Well I didn't really like Bush bowing down to the kind of Saudi Arabia (you know were all the bombers and Bin Laden came from) and even walking holding his hand. Should the leader of the free world bow and hold hands with a king of such a country?

Stop crying me a river about the utter bullcrap about Obama this and that. He had a picture taken in front of a communist leader, the right wing gas bags predictably went ballistic, yet had no problem with Nixon in front of Mao, had no probem with Reagan in front of Lenin. I am sure we can also find one of Bush Jr doing something although nothing will ever top his picture in front of the MISSION ACCOMPLISHED banner.

Yes, Obma's failure is Bush's fault. We get it. Obama NEEDS someone to defend him because he is the worst failure in history. He NEEDS you, but doesn't give a rats @ss about you. Make excuses for his pandering to the communist. After all his momma slept with his communist mentor, so that kind of solidifies his communist leaning.

Originally Posted by Guest

its 2016, not 1961.

Cuba as our friend is much better than Cuba as an enemy.

Bowing down to the enemy. Well I didn't really like Bush bowing down to the kind of Saudi Arabia (you know were all the bombers and Bin Laden came from) and even walking holding his hand. Should the leader of the free world bow and hold hands with a king of such a country?

Stop crying me a river about the utter bullcrap about Obama this and that. He had a picture taken in front of a communist leader, the right wing gas bags predictably went ballistic, yet had no problem with Nixon in front of Mao, had no probem with Reagan in front of Lenin. I am sure we can also find one of Bush Jr doing something although nothing will ever top his picture in front of the MISSION ACCOMPLISHED banner.

Are you not being more than a hypocrite when you remind us it is 2016 and the turn to so many years in the past to make your points?

How about validating what you THINK or have an opinion about with current events?

That will require deviating from the talking points tactical point of view.....but give it a try!

"President Castro, I think,"
That's the first 4 words of the Obama quote.

That's diplomacy, the art of dealing with people in a sensitive and effective way. I don't see it as weakness or bowing down to anyone. By choosing the words "I think" he can change or twist Castro's words anyway he wants if that works for our position. If the other person says he got it wrong there is no loss of face on either side.

Obama may be a pinko communist, but Castro is a pure red communist. Hope Obama enjoyed his visit to Communist Cuba, while the invisible, non-existent terrorists are bombing our allies. No big deal, he's already retired and the only loose end is his request for an 18% increase in his retirement pension.

After all, we wouldn't want him to leave the White House, dirt poor like the Clintons and have to resort to stealing gov property like the Clintons did when they left.

So does anyone here disagree with the goals of excellent health care, old age security, and high quality education? If you don't disagree that those are worthy goals and legitimate interests of government, then you agree with Obama. Is it not possible that our "enemies" also have done some things right? Did Stalin rally his country at great sacrifice against the Nazi machine? Have the Viet Cong not lead to a stable and economically vibrant country? In this country, is it not likely we have made mistakes both in policy and execution? No system is perfect, neither perfectly good nor bad.

Obama has acknowledged historical missteps. Slavery was wrong. The decimation of our native population and culture was wrong. Apparently saying sorry is perceived as a weakness. I am sorry I believed that our ships were attacked in the Gulf of Tonkin and that if we did not stop Communism in Vietnam the whole of Asia would fall. I am sorry for the hubris America sometimes displays in telling other nations what is best for them.
And with all that I am proud to be American and recognize that we are a great country.

And I am glad that we have a President who has enough intellectual subtlety and gracious humility to not be a bully or a blowhard.

Originally Posted by Guest

"President Castro, I think,"
That's the first 4 words of the Obama quote.

That's diplomacy, the art of dealing with people in a sensitive and effective way. I don't see it as weakness or bowing down to anyone. By choosing the words "I think" he can change or twist Castro's words anyway he wants if that works for our position. If the other person says he got it wrong there is no loss of face on either side.

President Castro? And, all this time I thought Fidel was a dictator. When was he elected President of Cuba?

Originally Posted by Guest

So does anyone here disagree with the goals of excellent health care, old age security, and high quality education? If you don't disagree that those are worthy goals and legitimate interests of government, then you agree with Obama. Is it not possible that our "enemies" also have done some things right? Did Stalin rally his country at great sacrifice against the Nazi machine? Have the Viet Cong not lead to a stable and economically vibrant country? In this country, is it not likely we have made mistakes both in policy and execution? No system is perfect, neither perfectly good nor bad.

Obama has acknowledged historical missteps. Slavery was wrong. The decimation of our native population and culture was wrong. Apparently saying sorry is perceived as a weakness. I am sorry I believed that our ships were attacked in the Gulf of Tonkin and that if we did not stop Communism in Vietnam the whole of Asia would fall. I am sorry for the hubris America sometimes displays in telling other nations what is best for them.
And with all that I am proud to be American and recognize that we are a great country.

And I am glad that we have a President who has enough intellectual subtlety and gracious humility to not be a bully or a blowhard.

You're kidding right? You're being satiric, right? The only thing that Obama hasn't achieved yet, is give the keys of our country to the enemy. What kind of leader visits other countries with his tail between his legs? The great apologizer should restrict his cowardly pandering to his wife in his bedroom, or his boyfriend, which ever pertains. He is a disgrace. If he wanted to go into the ministry, he made a wrong turn in his application for affirmative action. Typical spoiled kid complex of one that has had everything given to him all his life. He is a disgrace and puts America to shame.

Originally Posted by Guest

President Castro? And, all this time I thought Fidel was a dictator. When was he elected President of Cuba?

President Obama stood beside President Raúl Castro

I'll try to help you catch up to 1976.

Fidel served as prime minister until 1976, when he became president of Cuba.

Originally Posted by Guest

President Obama stood beside President Raúl Castro

I'll try to help you catch up to 1976.

Fidel served as prime minister until 1976, when he became president of Cuba.

My mistake. When was Raul elected President?

Originally Posted by Guest

My mistake. When was Raul elected President?

In 2011, Raúl also instituted a two-term limit for the office of president (each term is five years), and when he was reelected in 2013, he announced his plans to leave politics at the end of his second term.

Don't you ever get to leave TOTV to look something up? Do they use Net Nanny in your school? Did you fool me? Am I helping you with your homework?

Originally Posted by Guest

In 2011, Raúl also instituted a two-term limit for the office of president (each term is five years), and when he was reelected in 2013, he announced his plans to leave politics at the end of his second term.

Don't you ever get to leave TOTV to look something up? Do they use Net Nanny in your school? Did you fool me? Am I helping you with your homework?

Someone asks a simple question and you have to be a sarcastic A-hole.

Originally Posted by Guest

Someone asks a simple question and you have to be a sarcastic A-hole.

I'm sorry, you're right. Just about everything I write seems to be slammed by someone so I judged too quickly.
I reread your questions and there is not an once of sarcasm or malice in what you asked. I'll not try not to do that again.

Originally Posted by Guest

I'm sorry, you're right. Just about everything I write seems to be slammed by someone so I judged too quickly.
I reread your questions and there is not an once of sarcasm or malice in what you asked. I'll not try not to do that again.

Typo

Take TWO

I'm sorry, you're right. Just about everything I write seems to be slammed by someone so I judged too quickly.
I reread your questions and there is not an once of sarcasm or malice in what you asked. I'll try not to do that again.

Originally Posted by Guest

So does anyone here disagree with the goals of excellent health care, old age security, and high quality education? If you don't disagree that those are worthy goals and legitimate interests of government, then you agree with Obama. Is it not possible that our "enemies" also have done some things right? Did Stalin rally his country at great sacrifice against the Nazi machine? Have the Viet Cong not lead to a stable and economically vibrant country? In this country, is it not likely we have made mistakes both in policy and execution? No system is perfect, neither perfectly good nor bad.

Obama has acknowledged historical missteps. Slavery was wrong. The decimation of our native population and culture was wrong. Apparently saying sorry is perceived as a weakness. I am sorry I believed that our ships were attacked in the Gulf of Tonkin and that if we did not stop Communism in Vietnam the whole of Asia would fall. I am sorry for the hubris America sometimes displays in telling other nations what is best for them.
And with all that I am proud to be American and recognize that we are a great country.

And I am glad that we have a President who has enough intellectual subtlety and gracious humility to not be a bully or a blowhard.

But in reading this post, you are also very much party oriented and selective in your choices of history used to make a political point.