Originally Posted by Bucco

".... It appears the Republican party wants to reintroduce religion in the schools and in the government"

Can you allow some validity to this charge ? Links, proposals, etc. ?

Praying to your God for guidance, strength and inspiration is certainly not injecting God into politics. Letting folks know that you do that does not insist that you do the same, and keeping quiet about it is hiding how you feel.

You certainly are not against an elected official praying are you ? Or must he/she do it under cover of night ?

See your shorts are in a twist..... This post was in response to villagesgolfer who said the Dems were trying to remove GOD. I don't think you asked for proof on that one.

Originally Posted by cologal

See your shorts are in a twist..... This post was in response to villagesgolfer who said the Dems were trying to remove GOD. I don't think you asked for proof on that one.

Sorry...I didnt see the word "Democrats" or "Dems".....saw "socialists" etc ! But no party mention but I may have missed it.

That aside, why did you make your statement which is NOT TRUE ?

This is where we are.....R's say something unfair about D's. D's get upset and saysomething about R's. None of it true, but it is ok, right ?

So, you interpet the remark concerning "socialists" (unless I missed the D reference all together) to refer to D's. That makes it ok for you to make untrue statements about R's.

I did not ignore what was said...just did not get a party inference from it.

Originally Posted by cologal

See your shorts are in a twist..... This post was in response to villagesgolfer who said the Dems were trying to remove GOD. I don't think you asked for proof on that one.

Show me where I said "Dems"? Unless you think all democrats are progressive socialists. Seems your just looking for a R vs. D fight.

The current administration both Ds and Rs need to read the Consitution, referring to separation from Church and State. No where does the Consitution say anything like that.

It only says, the GOVERNMENT will NOT establish a religion.

Get a copy and read that important little piece of paper.

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

I never heard of such a thing. Gross exaggeration come to mind. But I do know that progressives want their "god" Central Government, in every school and everybody's lives.

You are a laugh a minute....have you noticed the number of republican held states trying to stop the law of the land Row bs Wade? How about DOMA and Don't Ask Don't Tell. You probably think it was ok for Tiller to be gunned down in church.

Now how dare you question my experience!!! In the 4th grade, in New Jersey I was required to read from the bible, when it was my turn, and to recite the Lord's prayer. We had to bring in a Catholic bible. As there were only 4 or 5 of us Catholics the overall experience defines my stance on the issue to this day.

Originally Posted by Figmo Bohica

The current administration both Ds and Rs need to read the Consitution, referring to separation from Church and State. No where does the Consitution say anything like that.

It only says, the GOVERNMENT will NOT establish a religion.

Get a copy and read that important little piece of paper.

I have read that document but we both know what reality is.... We are supposed to have freedom of religion. But some want to impose their beliefs on us......

And before you call another name I would think twice.

Originally Posted by cologal

I have read that document but we both know what reality is.... We are supposed to have freedom of religion. But some want to impose their beliefs on us......

And before you call another name I would think twice.

"But some want to impose their beliefs on us......"


WHO is doing this ? Please...you keep ignoring when asked where you get this information and keep making the same accusations...WHO..in what manner

Originally Posted by cologal

You are a laugh a minute....have you noticed the number of republican held states trying to stop the law of the land Row bs Wade? How about DOMA and Don't Ask Don't Tell. You probably think it was ok for Tiller to be gunned down in church.

Now how dare you question my experience!!! In the 4th grade, in New Jersey I was required to read from the bible, when it was my turn, and to recite the Lord's prayer. We had to bring in a Catholic bible. As there were only 4 or 5 of us Catholics the overall experience defines my stance on the issue to this day.

So, you think it should be the law of the land to kill babies in the name of birth control? How sick is that?

Originally Posted by cologal

I have read that document but we both know what reality is.... We are supposed to have freedom of religion. But some want to impose their beliefs on us......

And before you call another name I would think twice.

Who said that? It is not in our constitution. You didn't make that up, did you?

Originally Posted by cologal

You are a laugh a minute....have you noticed the number of republican held states trying to stop the law of the land Row bs Wade?

...trying to connect this comment to the discussion of seperation of church and state? Not to mention that someone does not have to be a republican or a christian to hold the the belief that abortion is wrong. My Muslim, democrat, physician also believes it is VERY wrong and that Row v Wade should be overturned...

Originally Posted by KatzPajamas

...trying to connect this comment to the discussion of seperation of church and state? Not to mention that someone does not have to be a republican or a christian to hold the the belief that abortion is wrong. My Muslim, democrat, physician also believes it is VERY wrong and that Row v Wade should be overturned...

There are many many Democrats of ALL religions who feel it is killing...depends on when you think life begins. This is NOT a religious issue except in the minds of a few

Originally Posted by Bucco

There are many many Democrats of ALL religions who feel it is killing...depends on when you think life begins.

Doesn't matter when any particular person thinks that life begins. Here's the deal-female's egg(living cells with distinct DNA) meet male's sperm (living cells with distinct but different DNA). The merge produces other living cells with distinct DNA that is different from either one of the original. Note-nothing has died here in this process, hence the new organism is alive too, hence LIFE! Not to mention that it is growing at a far greater pace than the ovary or the sperm. The question is not when life begins...The question is-who has the right to stop these living cells from living... [/QUOTE]This is NOT a religious issue except in the minds of a few[/QUOTE]
My point exactly!

Originally Posted by Bucco

There are many many Democrats of ALL religions who feel it is killing...depends on when you think life begins.

Doesn't matter when any particular person thinks that life begins. Here's the deal-female's egg(living cells with distinct DNA) meet male's sperm (living cells with distinct but different DNA). The merge produces other living cells with distinct DNA that is different from either one of the original. Note-nothing has died here in this process, hence the new organism is alive too, hence LIFE! The question is not when life begins...The question is-who has the right to stop these living cells from living... Also Originally posted by Bucco "This is NOT a religious issue except in the minds of a few" My point exactly!

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

So, you think it should be the law of the land to kill babies in the name of birth control? How sick is that?

I have never had nor has anyone in my family had an abortion...those are my beliefs. However, unlike you I don't impose them on else. So thanks for making my point.

Originally Posted by villagegolfer

Who said that? It is not in our constitution. You didn't make that up, did you?

OMG you mean we don't have freedom of religion? I must be reading the wrong constitution.