Originally Posted by waynet

The article says it better than I can. He was elected on the hope he could ,would change things. As far as I can tell that change has not come about. Some of you call it a radical agenda,I never understood that but it doesn't matter there will be no significant changes in policy or attitude and our country will continue to flounder and fail to meet it's goals and expectations.

Wont bug you Wayne, but dont you think a health bill that the citizens did not want, that did not address ANY costs, that jacked up the deficit a lot, that was conceived with payoffs and blackmail would be considered a bit radical ?

Dont you think saying and commenting that those who make money should share with others, and he was NOT talking about charity...dont you think that a bit radical ?

Dont you think a President who in a short 16 months is already feeling the heat for his political deals he has tried to make..dont you think that is radical ?

I think there is a line or two in your link saying how he and this is my paraphrasing....thinks he and his cronies are always right...THAT is how he acts, and he had no...none..plans to ever be anything near non partisan...it is his way or the highway !

Kudos to you for saying what you feel however.....most wont...and you should be complemented for recognizing how this man (and the press) totally conned this nation !

Originally Posted by waynet

The article says it better than I can. He was elected on the hope he could ,would change things. As far as I can tell that change has not come about. Some of you call it a radical agenda,I never understood that but it doesn't matter there will be no significant changes in policy or attitude and our country will continue to flounder and fail to meet it's goals and expectations.

Don't get down on him Wayne; he changed many things.

He got a law passed that will take over 1/6 of the U.S. economy and will put yours and everyones health care into the hand of unelected bureaucrats and fine you if you don't wish to participate.

He spent your great-grandchildren's legacy and increased the National Debt so that it will very soon be higher that the GNP.

He changed our nuclear policy to promise we would not use them in the event of chemical or biological attack and only launch in the event of a nuclear attack. Our adversaries are immensely relieved.

He's retreating from supporting Israel and joining Israel's enemies is denouncing Israel for protecting her own sovereignty. Again ours and Israel's enemies are much relieved and emboldened.

I'm sure there are more instances of his accomplishment and change that will gladden your heart. Do not be discouraged.

Originally Posted by Sally Jo

It's becasue of the environmentalist that we have to drill so deep. They do their best to stop all drilling. I say drill baby drill!!!

I think they drill there because that is where the oil is......

Originally Posted by cologal

I voted for him as my second choice...but would I change my vote today.


Nah....I can still hear the Drill Baby, Drill ringing in my ears...Seen any tar balls?

"Drill baby, drill!" was aimed at ANWAR... at least there, there would be no tar balls and things can be fixed if anything happened!

Originally Posted by cologal

I think they drill there because that is where the oil is......

They drill wherever they can get permission from our brain-addled government bureaucrats. There are plenty of less dangerous sites they would love to drill if given clearance.

Originally Posted by cologal

I think they drill there because that is where the oil is......

On this point I fully agree with you. There are a number of things we need to at before anyone goes off the deep end blaming BP or Obama:

1. Were there measures that should or could have been taken to prevent this tragedy? We do not know yet despite all the talking heads on television.
2. We need to eliminate the ‘us and them’ game. It is not productive. We need a team jointly chaired by the USCG and BP working together and bringing in every possible resource to deal with this problem - the great labs of Sandia, Lawrence Livermore and Los Alamos perhaps?
3. We must somehow bring to a halt the political grandstanding that has been engaged in by virtually every politician with the exception of Bobby Jindalh, the governor of Louisiana who has been stating from day one what LA needs and acting proactively to save the LA coast despite the lackadaisical response from the Corps of Engineers and the EPA. Bobby Jindalh has been the one person who has emerged from this debacle as a leader.
4. Stop the nationalize, kick ass and other meaningless BS. We can sort that out later. In the meantime we have a job to do- Let’s do it, TOGETHER!

This is not an Obama problem, a Bush problem or a BP problem. This is a problem a problem for the United States as a whole.

Yes!... This IS a problem for the United States. But the buck stops with Obama. I don't think anybody is blaming him for the accident, but so far, I don't see where he is handling the fix. I would love to see him finally do something that would hiint of something constructive for the US. Show me he can do something without a scripted teleprompter in front of him. Show me he is not just a bunch of talk of hope and change. Show me he can fix this catastrophe! He wanted this job, don't tell me he didn't think there would be days like this!

Originally Posted by cashman

Will you vote for him again?

Will you vote Democrat In November?

If your answer is yes I would say you still have your patience, but keep trying to impress us.

Waynet, You have a habit of making wild statements and then refuse to discuss them.

What wild statement are you talking about? I simply said my confidence in Obama is waning. I am losing confidence in him. What is so wild? You want a wild statement....I am losing confidence in the U.S.A. to solve our problems. The Gulf of Mexico is a disgrace. Great countries with great thinkers would have the problem solved.Action would have been taken immediatly. There would have been no party bickering,no blame game,get the thing solved. We are living on past accomplishments. What have we done as a country lately that is great? What problems have we solved that have impacted the world or the USA or a state or a city? What great legislation has been passed ? I don't think it matters DEms or Repubs.they are all bought and sold. Just look at the contracts BP has and tell me we are above board.

Maybe if we did more of this, we wouldn't have states like Arizona writing laws because the Federal Govt refuses to enforce what is already the law of the land, or have a need for "Comprehensive Immigration Reform".

If we went after the fraud in Medicare and fixed what Gov't already has the power to control, then maybe we wouldn't have needed massive healthcare reform that we can't afford.

Finally, if Congress did more oversight then we wouldn't need all of the hearings to assign blame after the fact. There is plenty of blame to share for the mess our country is in, but IMO, a lot of it belongs in DC and is shared by both Parties.

Amen....Could not agree with you more! Forget the blame game, let's get to work!!!!

Originally Posted by cashman

Waynet, You have a habit of making wild statements and then refuse to discuss them.

Last try!!!!!!!!!! Will you vote for the Obama crowd in November?

NO!

Originally Posted by RichieLion

They drill wherever they can get permission from our brain-addled government bureaucrats. There are plenty of less dangerous sites they would love to drill if given clearance.

I beg to differ.....the rights to off shore drilling space are purchased. So BP wanted this space. In the US there are NOT plenty of less dangerous places....only ANWAR. Of course the last Repub ticket tried to say that the US had more domestic oil than the Middle East base on the oil shale in some state.....let me see which one was that? Now I remember Colorado.

HA HA....that has been in a BOOM and BUST cycle since I moved here 40 years ago...ok at least since I was in college.


Not going to happen in my life time.

As for voting in November, I probably will not vote in the presidential election. Obama has disappointed me but I don't see a republican who is any better. As I said earlier I do not think it matters anymore. They are ALL bought and sold by big business,big oil,wall street etc. just looking at the candidates in South Carolina and California makes me wonder what happened to this country. We had every advantage a country could have and our greed, selfishness and false sense of superiority has finally done us in.