Originally Posted by waynet

As for voting in November, I probably will not vote in the presidential election. Obama has disappointed me but I don't see a republican who is any better. As I said earlier I do not think it matters anymore. They are ALL bought and sold by big business,big oil,wall street etc. just looking at the candidates in South Carolina and California makes me wonder what happened to this country. We had every advantage a country could have and our greed, selfishness and false sense of superiority has finally done us in.

Not sure how I feel about someone who gives up,especially on his country !

MOST would get more involved

waynet, I wish everyone else who supported Obama felt the same way you do and would not vote in the next Presidential election.

Originally Posted by waynet

As for voting in November, I probably will not vote in the presidential election. Obama has disappointed me but I don't see a republican who is any better. As I said earlier I do not think it matters anymore. They are ALL bought and sold by big business,big oil,wall street etc. just looking at the candidates in South Carolina and California makes me wonder what happened to this country. We had every advantage a country could have and our greed, selfishness and false sense of superiority has finally done us in.

We need to get rid of the Obama progressive, liberal, socialist, big government machine and vote in conservative, smaller government thinkers, or it is over.

VOTE FOR CONSERVATIVES AND SAVE AMERICA.

We do'nt have any real original thinkers that I can see. I haven't heard an original idea in a long time. It's the same old party crap over and over from both sides. My confidence in our ability to solve even the simplest problems is gone. We are awash in cronyism,greed,false promises,and above all corruption at all levels. As for quitting on my country if everyone decided not to vote that would be a clear message.

Originally Posted by waynet

We do'nt have any real original thinkers that I can see. I haven't heard an original idea in a long time. It's the same old party crap over and over from both sides. My confidence in our ability to solve even the simplest problems is gone. We are awash in cronyism,greed,false promises,and above all corruption at all levels. As for quitting on my country if everyone decided not to vote that would be a clear message.

This is another post of you attacking the members who respond to you on TOTV instead of continuing the debate. We are only people out here expressing opinions about this once, and who knows for how much longer, great nation of ours. We can talk about what we think and hopefully, if we're articulate, or post a relevant link, maybe sway someone to seriously consider our views. I don't think it helps to flog the posters.

RichieLion,I was not talking about the posters here. I was talking about the so-called leadership of this country both Repubs and Dems.

Originally Posted by waynet

We do'nt have any real original thinkers that I can see. I haven't heard an original idea in a long time. It's the same old party crap over and over from both sides. My confidence in our ability to solve even the simplest problems is gone. We are awash in cronyism,greed,false promises,and above all corruption at all levels. As for quitting on my country if everyone decided not to vote that would be a clear message.

Your ideology and confused idea of what Democrats are doing to this country is turning you into a rambling and very confused American.

There still may be some hope for you to change if you stop getting all your news and ideological endoctrination from Liberal sources. Want some truth try other sources.

Originally Posted by waynet

RichieLion,I was not talking about the posters here. I was talking about the so-called leadership of this country both Repubs and Dems.

Sorry Waynet; that's the one great flaw of blogging is the interpretation of what we've read, and the tone of the statement, may not be the thought and the tone intended by the author. I assumed that this being your thread you were referring to the posters who commented on your original thought.
I'm sorry I misunderstood your meaning.

l agree with your premise, then, that politicians are basically self-serving. If we're lucky we elect people who in the process of securing their careers, actually represent and promote the ideals of the people they serve.

I have concluded that the President is not one of these people. He, I believe, is trying to fundamentally change the fabric of our free nation into a nation that our founders would scarcely recognize. A nation where we are to look to national government for our wants and needs instead of just their protection as was intended by our founders.

I'm not really sharp, but I do make some observations.

Why does Obama have to run down to the Gulf every week and make another speech? What is that accomplishing? What happened happened. I'm pretty sure that BP didn't deliberately cause this catastrophe nor anyone else. It happened...concentrate on the problem and a solution. Listen to all suggestions, even those from the non-experts. Don't just assume that whatever they come up with won't work. Trying some of the suggestions just might. What they're doing now doesn't seem to be getting it done, anyway, so what could it hurt. Pointing fingers and kicking butt sure isn't doing it.

Meanwhile, send ALL the politicians (including Obama) to all the beaches affected. Give them gloves, protective gear, training (whatever that translates to be), a shovel, a plastic bag and tell them to get to work on the cleanup. After all is said and done and the problem has been alleviated, then figure out how to avoid a repeat. (What they used to address as "root cause" at our plant.)

I agree with dillywho. Obama does not serve any meaningful purpose by going down to the Gulf to make an appearance. The only thing he does is cause disruption in the clean-up and whatever else they are trying to do. He has an entourage of 25-30 Secret Service and press people that travel wherever he goes and then all the local police have to drop whatever they would have been doing to protect him. They are much better off if he would just stay out of the way. He has plenty of flunkies that he can send and report back to him if necessary.