The economy won't be back by 2010. In fact it may get worse. There are some numbers that are turning around but unemployment continues to rise and home foreclosures are still on the rise. They don't predict net job increases for up to 10 years. No jobs, no economy, no recovery. Most of what BHO has planned are in fact job killers.

But again, a majority of Americans are more tolerant about undocumented workers than the posters to this board.

Unless you live in CA, AZ, TX and a few other states. They have a little different view of illegals.

I do not like the term LIAR....dont think I have used that word since maybe grade school and especially in regards to politics because politicians are pretty smart with their presentations and those on both sides of the aisle practice this "art".

During the campaign and in the last few months, many folks have actually said to me...."are you calling the President a liar" ? I hestitate and always stutter "no" because that term should be reserved for extreme circumstances.
However, I have always searched as to how to describe what this President has been doing since he began his candidacy, since I am challanged quite a bit with communicating in this medium.

This morning I read an editorial by Charles Krauthammer and he came up with the words I need to use...

"Obama doesn't lie. He implies, he misdirects, he misleads -- so fluidly and incessantly that he risks transmuting eloquence into mere slickness."

"Does He Lie?
By Charles Krauthammer

WASHINGTON -- You lie? No. Barack Obama doesn't lie. He's too subtle for that. He ... well, you judge."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...lie_98363.html

He is surely not the first, but maybe it is because he is so good at it !

"Obama doesn't lie. He implies, he misdirects, he misleads -- so fluidly and incessantly that he risks transmuting eloquence into mere slickness."

When he said under $250k and you won't see your taxes go up one dime he was lying. He's told many untruths and like many politicians he is a liar.

And yes, I do call him a liar... flat out.

Will he say what ever the audience wants to hear? Of course...he is a politician.
We he say something different on the same subject, taking the opposite side of an issue as he did the last time he talked about it? Absolutely. He does it CONSISTENTLY!!!.

He told the Europeans in April he was going to continue with the missal shield.
Yesterday he cancelled the program. Did he lie? In his interview yesterday on that subject he said he was not abandoning the concept. He was cancelling the program and was going to replace it with one that is better. Does he lie???

Does he think his audiences are stupid? Yes, based not on what he says but on what he does.

The warning that has been iterated time and again.....do not watch what he says.....watch what he does.

I believe when he is confronted about what he said VS what he did....in his schmooze oblique answer....he will definitely LIE!!

His track record....say one thing and do something else. Deliverable = zippo.

btk

I have no problem in calling him a "liar" as it does fit what use to be used in the 6th grade and it has not lost its meaning. He is a great speaker and in fact probably one of the best in modern history BUT so were and are a number of dictators, past political criminals, past and current dictators that started out with a psuedo demoncracy and the citizens ended up with either a facist or socialistic country. He has succeded in mortgaging the future of our children and probably raising the bar on destroying their future even more. He darn well scares me..

A liar is a person who makes a statement he knows is untrue.

Obama does what all politicians do he makes UNTRUE statements that will not cause him to lose votes but may even get him votes.

The difference is that Obama is the President and as such his lies will be treated as lies as they should.

What I see as a great symbolic portrayal of the ethics of the politicians in office.
There were 6 Senators who voted against cutting off funding to Acorn. Of the 6, two were from Illinois !! Tell me again they were voting what is best for the people. Of course not, they have no eithic, no morals, etc. They could care less what is best for the American people and only what is best for them. This is symbolic of what we have as leaders and backs up the need to throw the bums out..

Originally Posted by REH7380

What I see as a great symbolic portrayal of the ethics of the politicians in office.
There were 6 Senators who voted against cutting off funding to Acorn. Of the 6, two were from Illinois !! Tell me again they were voting what is best for the people. Of course not, they have no eithic, no morals, etc. They could care less what is best for the American people and only what is best for them. This is symbolic of what we have as leaders and backs up the need to throw the bums out..

I believe they were voting as the Chicago city council would vote on this matter. What do you expect from CROOK county.

If you were offered $1 million dollars to find one politician who doesn't lie or bend the truth, you'd still be looking, and looking, and looking. That's my story and I'm going to stick to it!

LIES from a politician is something we expect.

LIES from our President is something that is very dangerous.

Originally Posted by cashman

LIES from a politician is something we expect.

LIES from our President is something that is very dangerous.

We should have learned that from the Bush Administration!

Originally Posted by chelsea24

We should have learned that from the Bush Administration!

Now, I have to go back to work on my State of the Union speech. And I worked on it until pretty late last night. But I want to say one thing to the American people. I want you to listen to me. I'm going to say this again: I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky. I never told anybody to lie, not a single time; never. These allegations are false. And I need to go back to work for the American people. Thank you

The Bush Administration?

BBQMAN I am having trouble comming up with one lie Bush told.

I can think of many the Democrats lied about like weapons of mass destruction. Bush never ever lied about these weapons so why do the democrats continue to lie saying he did.

YOUR POST ON THE IS IS GUY WAS GREAT.

Originally Posted by cashman

BBQMAN I am having trouble comming up with one lie Bush told.

I can think of many the Democrats lied about like weapons of mass destruction. Bush never ever lied about these weapons so why do the democrats continue to lie saying he did.

YOUR POST ON THE IS IS GUY WAS GREAT.

Get Real!!
Mission Accomplished??? I am Surprised Bush didnt trip over his nose.

Bush got rid of the President of Iraq as he promised and said "mission accomplished" then he said he would continue to fight the terrorists which he did. Your "trip over his nose" statement is a PARTISAN
statement without any logic to it.