[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

A very frequent poster on here just might disagree with you.

Blips! The more the merrier.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by sounding

I little due diligence on your part will show it was the circumpolar "international" community that produced a joined agreement agreement - but the media refuses to tell you. Just like the media refuses to tell you how much "man-made" CO2 warmed the earth last year -- because they can't find it.

In 2021 increased use of coal drove up global CO2 emissions by over 2 billion tons - the largest ever annual rise. Humans emit around 40 billion tons / year. CO2 is now more than 50 % higher than pre-industrial revolution levels. Scientists say that if CO2 doubles, it could raise the Average Global Temperature by 2.5 degrees C. We are already increasing the amount of energy that BOUNCES back to Earth because of the Greenhouse Effect, which is causing Global Warming with its many DESTRUCTIVE impacts.
........All facts from Scientific Articles located by Google.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

The Inuit Circumpolar Council (ICC) was founded in 1977. With the impact of Global Warming, Inuit have recorded RAIN lasting into the early winter season, something their warm clothing is NOT adapted to. Climate Change is impacting the Inuit way of life. As such, many Inuit Elders and hunters are concerned by accelerated changes to the land, water, weather system, and WILDLIFE. They are exploring things outside of the range observed in oral Histories............(All from the Google machine)

Beautiful summary. And if you go back even further into the oral histories, you'll find that there was much less ice prior to the Little Ice Age. The Inuits didn't move to the land of ice & snow because they liked it. They originally moved there when it was warmer - when trees were growing.

[Decadeofdave]

This has been the coolest summer in 8 years in Ohio.
Only 2-90 degree days. July 14th golfed with jackets, 59 degree high. air conditioning is average -25 to -40 hours per month vs 2022. Heating up in June and July by + 10 to 15 hrs per month vs 2022. very odd, no one outside the area talks about this.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by Decadeofdave

This has been the coolest summer in 8 years in Ohio.
Only 2-90 degree days. July 14th golfed with jackets, 59 degree high. air conditioning is average -25 to -40 hours per month vs 2022. Heating up in June and July by + 10 to 15 hrs per month vs 2022. very odd, no one outside the area talks about this.

You bet Ohio was cool - and the surrounding region - was below normal this summer (see atch image). The media will not publish this information - which is official NOAA data available on the Internet. At the Weather Club we talk about what the media refuses to talk about - the data versus the narrative. The Villages Weather Club

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by sounding

Polar bears don't need ice to survive - they need seals - or humans. There is more than enough ice for them. Ice was much lower years ago and the bears did just fine. Ice is now growing - because we are in a 9-year cooling trend - see image. Remember - if it's about the climate and it's by the main stream media - it's fake news.

Not sure where that erroneous information about Polar Bears is coming from, BUT.....Reuters reports that Polar Bears will begin to disappear in about 2050 where the sea ice is melting most rapidly. Slate.com says that a study predicts polar Bear EXTINCTION by 2100 if greenhouse gas emissions remain at the current trajectory.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Not sure where that erroneous information about Polar Bears is coming from, BUT.....Reuters reports that Polar Bears will begin to disappear in about 2050 where the sea ice is melting most rapidly. Slate.com says that a study predicts polar Bear EXTINCTION by 2100 if greenhouse gas emissions remain at the current trajectory.

The answer is simple - money & power. Your references are in the business in making money. Participating in climate alarmism is very profitable (aka. Al Gore). Your best information comes from independent authorities like: polarbearscience.com

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by sounding

You bet Ohio was cool - and the surrounding region - was below normal this summer (see atch image). The media will not publish this information - which is official NOAA data available on the Internet. At the Weather Club we talk about what the media refuses to talk about - the data versus the narrative. The Villages Weather Club

That map proves my points perfectly. MOST of the US shows HIGHER than NORMAL temperatures on THAT MAP. In fact, the summer of 2023 set a RECORD for the HIGHEST temperatures ever worldwide. The Gulf of Mexico and the Atlantic Ocean waters around Florida set all-time high records. The oceans rose the most ever worldwide.
..........People who have lived over 10 years in Fl know that this summer was KILLER HOT. Very few people played ANY SPORTS outside in the afternoon here this summer. Personally, I played some sports outside this summer, but NEVER again. Next summer will find me on an exercise mat INDOORS at some group class (like YOGA maybe). The next 8 years are predicted to keep being increasingly HOT, RECORD-SETTING HOT.
.......The Head of the International Energy Agency was a LITTLE more hopeful when he said that after 2030, fossil fuel usage will begin to curve downward BECAUSE of RENEWABLES and nuclear energy will make a comeback due to need and increased SAFETY!

[sounding]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

That map proves my points perfectly. MOST of the US shows HIGHER than NORMAL temperatures on THAT MAP. In fact, the summer of 2023 set a RECORD for the HIGHEST temperatures ever worldwide. The Gulf of Mexico and the Atlantic Ocean waters around Florida set all-time high records. The oceans rose the most ever worldwide.
..........People who have lived over 10 years in Fl know that this summer was KILLER HOT. Very few people played ANY SPORTS outside in the afternoon here this summer. Personally, I played some sports outside this summer, but NEVER again. Next summer will find me on an exercise mat INDOORS at some group class (like YOGA maybe). The next 8 years are predicted to keep being increasingly HOT, RECORD-SETTING HOT.
.......The Head of the International Energy Agency was a LITTLE more hopeful when he said that after 2030, fossil fuel usage will begin to curve downward BECAUSE of RENEWABLES and nuclear energy will make a comeback due to need and increased SAFETY!

So why was Ohio and region cooler than normal? Too much CO2? Don't forget, we are still in a 9-year cooling trend - and that map was just Jun-Jul-Aug data.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by sounding

So why was Ohio and region cooler than normal? Too much CO2? Don't forget, we are still in a 9-year cooling trend - and that map was just Jun-Jul-Aug data.

OK. So why was most of the US out of "normal" on your chart warmer than cooler? Who are you trying to fool by continually confusing weather anomalies with climate stats? Why focus on Ohio when it would be more honest to look at the entirety of the US including Alaska and Hawaii. Better yet, look at the entire planet, not one or a few cherry picked locations or weather anomalies to try to support a false narrative.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

OK. So why was most of the US out of "normal" on your chart warmer than cooler? Who are you trying to fool by continually confusing weather anomalies with climate stats?

I repeat ... So why was Ohio and region cooler than normal?

[MorTech]

Originally Posted by Suzay

Beats talking about Politics !

The political terrorists have made the earth's climate political.

We were in a 14 year cooling trend which is now ending since 2021. See Solar Cycle 25.

Solar cycle 25 - Wikipedia

[Two Bills]

The claim that the Polar Bear population has grown by 400% has been pretty much been shown as not true.
Polar Bear population has risen in some areas, and fallen in others, but overall the population numbers are relatively static.
The Polar Ice is important for Seals and Polar Bears.
Seals give birth on the winter ice, and the bears need the ice to hunt the seals.
Without substantial ice flow, the bears cannot get to their main food source.
Both species need ice to thrive.
No doubt they will adapt over time, if the amount of ice reduces dramatically, but in the short term it will be a major problem.
Emperor Penguins have also been in trouble with ice melting prematurely, losing many young from drowning before the chicks completed their molt.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Seems warmer today.

Seems cooler today.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

The claim that the Polar Bear population has grown by 400% has been pretty much been shown as not true.
Polar Bear population has risen in some areas, and fallen in others, but overall the population numbers are relatively static.
The Polar Ice is important for Seals and Polar Bears.
Seals give birth on the winter ice, and the bears need the ice to hunt the seals.
Without substantial ice flow, the bears cannot get to their main food source.
Both species need ice to thrive.
No doubt they will adapt over time, if the amount of ice reduces dramatically, but in the short term it will be a major problem.
Emperor Penguins have also been in trouble with ice melting prematurely, losing many young from drowning before the chicks completed their molt.

Polar bears, like humans, can adapt ...New evidence that polar bears survived 1,600 years of ice-free summers in the early Holocene | polarbearscience