[Pugchief]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Scientists get paid to push knowledge forward. They try out ideas and then write scientific papers in Scientific Journals, which then get read by fellow Scientists that write peer reviews. The whole scientific system leads to newer and better science. Science is always improving. They don't get paid for "making things up".

/// Nevermind, not worth it.

[Kenswing]

The same people arguing about the same thing. Wouldn’t it just be easier to reread one of the threads you already did this in?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Birdrm

I am confused with the global message from group like the UN and WEF, they are asking for decreases in fossil fuels because the increased heat is killing our population. But, they also say the long range goal for the world is to reduce the overall population. These 2 ideas conflict so not sure exactly what they really want?

If you look at a graph of WORLD population, it will show a GREAT increase in the last 15 years. That is the KEY to understanding the problem. Obviously, more people need to burn more coal and gasoline - for cars and trucks and factories, and aircraft and etc. The EARTH had reached its capacity about 15 years ago to store the CO2 byproducts of BURNING coal and gasoline. The result was that the world environment has deteriorated in the form of excess HEAT.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

If you look at a graph of WORLD population, it will show a GREAT increase in the last 15 years. That is the KEY to understanding the problem. Obviously, more people need to burn more coal and gasoline - for cars and trucks and factories, and aircraft and etc. The EARTH had reached its capacity about 15 years ago to store the CO2 byproducts of BURNING coal and gasoline. The result was that the world environment has deteriorated in the form of excess HEAT.

How many times does it have to be repeated before some people finally get it???

CO2 IS NOT THE PROBLEM

[Number 10 GI]

When they claim it is the hottest temperature ever on the planet, they lost all credibility because it is a complete and intentional lie. We only have temperature data for a hundred years or so.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI

When they claim it is the hottest temperature ever on the planet, they lost all credibility because it is a complete and intentional lie. We only have temperature data for a hundred years or so.

Absolutely! Perhaps they'd have a better claim if they knew the temperature in 1564, or 966, or 26,987 BC. It's a classic case of not seeing the forest for the trees.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

That's easy. Waterworld.

But only because I like looking at a naked Jeanne Tripplehorn.

Hard to argue that point...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

What people need to do today in the 1st world countries is to prevent increased population from coming from 3rd world countries. Also, buying E-vehicles instead of ICE vehicles will help keep the upper atmosphere from forming a layer that is able to reflect HEAT back to the earth. Combating climate change is unfortunately not on most people's "to do list". The problem is that these record days of summer HEAT will continue AND INCREASE each year worldwide when these prevention steps are NOT taken !

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Oh contrare. We have a BIG problem, a MAN-MADE problem.The last 15 years have been the HOTTEST worldwide since records have been kept. And each year gets hotter. Look at a graph of world population and you will see that it rises greatly in the last 15 years. There is no coincidence that world population increase is DIRECTLY responsible for the world HEAT increase in the last 15 years.
The causing link between these 2 factors is basically CO2 POLLUTION - mainly from Chinese coal factories, US factories, and the factor of the internal combustion engine - which is the easiest factor for caring CITIZENS in the US to DO SOMETHING about - by purchasing MORE e-VEHICLES. Unfortunately in the US E-vehicle purchase is decreasing.

And... He's Back!

[Altavia]

Originally Posted by Kenswing

The same people arguing about the same thing. Wouldn’t it just be easier to reread one of the threads you already did this in?

I'm sure 0.00 opinions has been changed by this thread

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

And... He's Back!

And like the Terminator, some people will never stop, ever, until their argument is dead. ( which it is, only they don’t know it yet)😂😂😂

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

What makes little sense to me is the assertion that this is just thousand or ten thousand year climate patterns while we now in 2024 suffer all kinds of weather calamities. Why not now in 2024 try to do something about the weather in the next ten to thirty years rather than waiting for Mother Nature to correct herself in ten thousand years?

Can do something, donate, money always fixes things for somebody. If all climate alarmists would donate the problem could be fixed……sure can

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

If you look at a graph of WORLD population, it will show a GREAT increase in the last 15 years. That is the KEY to understanding the problem. Obviously, more people need to burn more coal and gasoline - for cars and trucks and factories, and aircraft and etc. The EARTH had reached its capacity about 15 years ago to store the CO2 byproducts of BURNING coal and gasoline. The result was that the world environment has deteriorated in the form of excess HEAT.

So do your part, stop driving gas cars, stop using electricity. Stop using plastic, stop using paper, and last move to middle of Congo and live in grass hut. O and last donate all your money to climate change. Talk the talk now walk the walk.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by kansasr

I'm sure your grandchildren are going to enjoy living in Thunderdome.

Grand children times 4000 plus generations?

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

It is common scientific knowledge that excess CO2 in the recent 15 years has caused the problems of Coral reef bleaching, glacier melting, ocean rise, and species destruction. Recently, it was 130 degrees F (absolute, not counting humidity and other factors) in Death Valley, USA , which was also a world record. Heat DEATHS in the US in many cities are setting all-time records. Miami Fl. and other east coast low-lying cities are preparing disaster plans to relocate population as the oceans rise for the next 50 years.
The UN is worried about HEAT deaths happening worldwide for the foreseeable future. Apparently the US news services are ignoring these problems, but they will hit everyone in the face, like it or not, in the near future.
People in India are experiencing greater HEAT deaths this summer. Also, I would NOT be surprised if many athletes at the summer Olympics experience more HEAT problems than usual. Basically, each year the Earth gets warmer. It can't be denied.

Actually the record high temp. in Death Valley was 134 degrees on July 10, 1913.

"world’s record highest temperature of 134 degrees marked at Greenland Ranch in Death Valley on July 10, 1913, according to the National Weather Service office in Las Vegas." nbc news dot com).

Death Valley temp. also hit 130 in 2020 and 2021.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

It is common scientific knowledge that excess CO2 in the recent 15 years has caused the problems of Coral reef bleaching, glacier melting, ocean rise, and species destruction. Recently, it was 130 degrees F (absolute, not counting humidity and other factors) in Death Valley, USA , which was also a world record. Heat DEATHS in the US in many cities are setting all-time records. Miami Fl. and other east coast low-lying cities are preparing disaster plans to relocate population as the oceans rise for the next 50 years.
The UN is worried about HEAT deaths happening worldwide for the foreseeable future. Apparently the US news services are ignoring these problems, but they will hit everyone in the face, like it or not, in the near future.
People in India are experiencing greater HEAT deaths this summer. Also, I would NOT be surprised if many athletes at the summer Olympics experience more HEAT problems than usual. Basically, each year the Earth gets warmer. It can't be denied.

The UN is a joke when it comes to climate. They say heat is the new normal, which is actually good since it's still too cold to grow the crops that Vikings grew on Greenland. Plus, scientists who actually study data (like Nobel Prize winner John Clauser) know the UN's IPCC is part of the climate joke about man-made CO2 causing climate problems.

Regarding this year's heat, the media is dumbing down the public, because they still refuse to acknowledge how the unprecedented Tonga volcano is causing unprecedented global warming. This will be explained in heated detail at the Aug 15 Weather Club meeting at 1:30 at Laurel Manor. This will be a hot talk - dress light.