[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

But I forgot to mention, the change in noise won't even occur for another 50,000 years. Still nothing to do with cupcakes.

I have an analogy for you.
Jon puts 3 cupcakes on the table. Garfield comes to the table. Jon returns with a glass of milk and discovers the cupcakes are gone, Garfield has chocolate on his face and his breath, when he burps, smells like chocolate.
So, who do you think ate the cupcakes?
(I shiver with anticipation of your response! 😃😃😃)

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Well, they can. But it will result in loss of grant money, inability to get published, and denial of tenure----in other words, professional suicide

You know----------there is a word that I learned in 6th grade -------------RATIONALIZATION--------------that so often is useful in adult life. When someone tries to tell you that UP is really DOWN, you often notice how CLEVER their DECEPTION really is. People in Washington get especially clever at using RATIONALIZATION. And sometimes at a local level. And throw in a pretty chart and the DECEPTION is artful.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Kind of the opposite of the flat earth agenda. That is false but people kept pushed it.

Global warming is a reality but people keep insisting it is not happening when a lot of research shows it is very real.

And of course if some expert keeps saying the world is flat that is simply not true.

If they repeat it often enough, then about 34% of the people will buy it. We have whole TV channels dedicated to confusing the public by simple repetition. They were NOT around before 1975 when people were better at thinking for themselves.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by MorTech

CO2 has been pouring from the earth for billions of years and yet the atmosphere contains 0.04% CO2...Things that make you go, Huh. When someone says "settled science" it just reveals they don't know anything about science.

I explained that once before here in detail.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by rsmurano

I just watched the weather and they haven’t decreased the number of tropical storms or hurricanes since they came out with their dire predictions. So now we have 1/2 the time to get in 90% of the storms in. Now they are predicting that the hurricane season will go past November this year, and I wouldn’t be surprised that in the future they will make the hurricane season year round.
Most of us aren’t that gullible, but some are and want to push this doomsday agenda to its fullest.
I’m assuming the Weather Channel is getting paid by these doomsday promoters because the last couple of years, the Weather Channel has been saying this year is the worst ever, storms are getting worse/stronger, and they are pushing the agenda to create a new “Cat 6” rating for hurricanes. I stopped watching these clowns.
Last year, I thought it was funny that the weather channel told florida evacuees don’t use their EVs when leaving because there won’t be enough charging stations on the exit route when you run out of power and I like this 1, if caught in high waters, your EV can catch fire. That had to hurt when they said this.

Since EVs were mentioned. I doubt that they would have any more trouble going through standing water than internal combustion vehicles. And people conveniently forget that ICE vehicles have been improving for about 100 years. Electric Vehicles are in their DEVELOPMENTAL INFANCY !!!!!!!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by spinner1001

That is what you imagine all scientists do. Fixed it.

Scientists are human and act on incentives, like other humans. You know that scientists have incentives other than altruism, right?

Altruism ? Scientists would be at the top of a scale of professions for ALTRUISM. Scientists would be way ahead of stock brokers, car salesman, insurance salesman, office workers, farmers, and man, MANY others.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

Why?

Because the correlation between knowledge and idealism is inverse.

Sorry, NOT true.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by sounding

I'm sure it's amazing to you, but it's a nightmare for those who work in those environments. Just mention that subject at any weather club meeting for examples of what you don't know.

If i wanted some knowledge and my choice were the Local Weather Club or a discussion with the local wino at a bar.........I believe I would prefer the bar.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

If i wanted some knowledge and my choice were the Local Weather Club or a discussion with the local wino at a bar.........I believe I would prefer the bar.

Exactly what I thought you would say

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

Is science ever really "settled"?

I've always seen science as the logical formulation of theories based on all pertinent current data, with the understanding that as more data comes to light, those theories may be revised slightly, altered significantly, or even negated totally. History is replete with examples of "settled science" undergoing such changes. Phrenology, determining personality traits by the shape of one's skull, was "science" in roughly the first half of the 19th century before more information coming to light completely discredited it. But my favorite has to be the science of astronomy. It was "settled science" back in the fifteenth century that the earth was the center of pretty much everything. I mean, you could SEE it. The Sun faithfully circled the earth once every 24 hours. Likewise for the moon and most of the stars (those pesky points of light called "wanderers" didn't always follow the same paths and procedures of the other stars but they were at least predictable. Besides, the earth as the center of everything jived pretty neatly with the current religious thought of the day. Then along comes Galileo, expanding on a theory of Copernicus, and with this newfangled scientific instrument called a telescope and throws the whole settled science of astronomy for a loop. His observations proved that what you SEE isn't always what IS. The church branded him as a heretic and he nearly lost his life in the process. I think it took the church something like 300 years to finally admit that they were wrong and Galileo was right.

Such is what happens when "settled science" becomes dogma.

That is true that science evolves. But, for the future and the last 30 years I believe that Climate Change is "SETTLED science". I believe that when 50% of the worlds vehicles are Electric (or NOT fossil fuel burning) then the Earth will begin to COOL back to normal. Personally I feel that many Coral Reefs will be totally destroyed and the seas will cover the coastlines before people make the environment a priority. It is all very SAD. Miami will be underwater!

[Taltarzac725]

I have had a Miami area weather lady on Facebook for years. She seems a sincere honest and funny person. I have never seen any indication that she is out to deceive. And Miami would be one of the first US cities to really experience global warming.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

I have had a Miami area weather lady on Facebook for years. She seems a sincere honest and funny person. I have never seen any indication that she is out to deceive. And Miami would be one of the first US cities to really experience global warming.

Maybe she's just ignorant. Besides, the local "weathergirl" is hardly a climatologist. And even the climatologists aren't trying to decieve as much as they are trying to professionally survive

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Maybe she's just ignorant. Besides, the local "weathergirl" is hardly a climatologist. And even the climatologists aren't trying to decieve as much as they are trying to professionally survive

If you saw Jim Cantore getting out of a Weather Channel van with a mike in hand and a cameraman in tow here I the Villages I suppose you would just shrug it off? I would take cover.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by sounding

They have to keep the public continually alarmed in order to control them. Since there is no climate crisis -- they have make up the crisis of the day. It's both funny and sad to see.

I am skeptical of anyone saying that the US government, or Climate professors, are ALL OVER THE WORLD lying for the purpose of SOMEHOW ???? controlling peoples minds. That is strange and sinister like a BAD horror movie.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

I have had a Miami area weather lady on Facebook for years. She seems a sincere honest and funny person. I have never seen any indication that she is out to deceive. And Miami would be one of the first US cities to really experience global warming.

Does she have a degree in weatherology? Is that a new word?

Many just read what the teleprompter tells them to say.