[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

Would that be the same calamity the Al Gore prediction that he made on Dec. 14, 2008, stating that the arctic would be completely ice-free by 2014?

Last I heard, the Arctic is pretty much ice-free. The US and Russia are competing for the oil and minerals there. Polar bears are floating on tiny islands of ice and having problems adapting to the Global Warming changes. By 2040 Glacier National Park will be renamed Devoid of Ice National Park. All that ice melting in the Arctic means greater ocean rise, which means more problems for South Florida and coastal Florida. The Gulf of Mexico has record-high water temperatures, which provided the rain and water for HURRICANE Ian to flood much of the Fort Meyers coastal areas as well as south-central Florida. Prepare for more IANs for the next 30 years. People thinking of moving to Florida had better consider Georgia, Tennessee, and the Carolinas instead.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

So, they glaciers that receded, leaving"The Bread Basket", which feeds the world, was a bad thing?

Killer Hurricanes? There are plenty of severe hurricanes every year. They just wander around the Atlantic and don't make landfall...

Sadly, we had a large one that did...

How many times do I have to tell you---stop confusing the indoctrinated with the facts

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Last I heard, the Arctic is pretty much ice-free. The US and Russia are competing for the oil and minerals there. Polar bears are floating on tiny islands of ice and having problems adapting to the Global Warming changes. By 2040 Glacier National Park will be renamed Devoid of Ice National Park. All that ice melting in the Arctic means greater ocean rise, which means more problems for South Florida and coastal Florida. The Gulf of Mexico has record-high water temperatures, which provided the rain and water for HURRICANE Ian to flood much of the Fort Meyers coastal areas as well as south-central Florida. Prepare for more IANs for the next 30 years. People thinking of moving to Florida had better consider Georgia, Tennessee, and the Carolinas instead.

Correction: 101 times

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Last I heard, the Arctic is pretty much ice-free. The US and Russia are competing for the oil and minerals there. Polar bears are floating on tiny islands of ice and having problems adapting to the Global Warming changes. By 2040 Glacier National Park will be renamed Devoid of Ice National Park. All that ice melting in the Arctic means greater ocean rise, which means more problems for South Florida and coastal Florida. The Gulf of Mexico has record-high water temperatures, which provided the rain and water for HURRICANE Ian to flood much of the Fort Meyers coastal areas as well as south-central Florida. Prepare for more IANs for the next 30 years. People thinking of moving to Florida had better consider Georgia, Tennessee, and the Carolinas instead.

More Chicken Little foolishness...

Those "Polar Bear stranded on the ice" pics? They were purposely taken at an angle that ignored the vast amount of ice behind the photographer...

National Geographic admits skeletal polar bear-global warming link 'went too far' - ArcticToday

The real story behind the famous starving polar-bear video reveals more manipulation | Financial Post

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by sounding

Regarding "man made hurricanes" ... if one believes increasing "man-made" CO2 is causing climate change, then must also believe that increasing CO2 is causing hurricanes and tornadoes to decrease in strength and intensity.

We just saw with hurricane IAN that hurricanes were INCREASING in intensity. There are estimates that IAN caused 100 billion dollars worth of damage. That was because of record Gulf water temperatures. Most scientists are in agreement that MAN is causing all the CHANGES to the climate around the world. Glaciers are disappearing. There are pictures that prove that.

People like to shoot down the messenger, Al Gore who did NOT say that the " sky is falling", but rather that the sky was filled with too much CO2. Today all the proof shows that Mr. Gore was right and that Gore-e-ness is predicted for the earth's future. In about 15 years there will be ZERO deniers of Global Climate Change. In 80 years vast areas of Africa and Asia will be UNINHABITABLE.

Florida is VERY susceptible to the worse effects of Climate Change. And will see more killer hurricanes like IAN next year. And many people say that it will take 5 years to rebuild from IAN. What will that mean when a NEW IAN hits next year and in 2024 and on and on? Scientists are NOT predicting Global Cooling in the next 30 years, just the opposite. All I see in Florida today is an attempt to ignore Climate ravaging and destruction......good luck with that !

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

That's like saying "if you believe in Santa Claus, you must also believe in the Easter Bunny"

Speaking of "Bunnies" and other furry mammals, fish, birds, and reptiles. The total worldwide population of those animals has decreased by 68% since 1970. To me 1970 onward seems suspiciously like a period of great human population growth. Florida increased from about 9 million people to 30 million people. Also, the time when scientists were beginning to talk about humans causing Climate Change. The coral reefs worldwide started dying. And the icing on the cake is this years hurricane IAN. Ma man.......IAN.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Badger 2006

Dr Anthony Fauci / Real Science or agenda? You know the difference?

Dr. Fauci's agenda was to help US people become informed about Covid and the importance of getting shots. And I hope that the victims of hurricane IAN that are homeless and in shelters have gotten all their shots and boosters because indoors it spreads easier than outside. Those poor people do NOT need a deadly disease in addition to all their other problems.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

You mean like the polar ice caps would all be gone by 2010?????

Posting the same misinformation 100 times does not make it valid.

I stand corrected. So embarrassing! You ARE right. I changed it to 2250. I need to proofread my posts.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I stand corrected. So embarrassing! You ARE right. I changed it to 2250. I need to proofread my posts.

try the year 25,000 and you will be correct

[sounding]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

We just saw with hurricane IAN that hurricanes were INCREASING in intensity. There are estimates that IAN caused 100 billion dollars worth of damage. That was because of record Gulf water temperatures. Most scientists are in agreement that MAN is causing all the CHANGES to the climate around the world. Glaciers are disappearing. There are pictures that prove that.

People like to shoot down the messenger, Al Gore who did NOT say that the " sky is falling", but rather that the sky was filled with too much CO2. Today all the proof shows that Mr. Gore was right and that Gore-e-ness is predicted for the earth's future. In about 15 years there will be ZERO deniers of Global Climate Change. In 80 years vast areas of Africa and Asia will be UNINHABITABLE.

Florida is VERY susceptible to the worse effects of Climate Change. And will see more killer hurricanes like IAN next year. And many people say that it will take 5 years to rebuild from IAN. What will that mean when a NEW IAN hits next year and in 2024 and on and on? Scientists are NOT predicting Global Cooling in the next 30 years, just the opposite. All I see in Florida today is an attempt to ignore Climate ravaging and destruction......good luck with that !

What you describe is NOT supported by data. But let's look at each claim one at a time ... please show me a graph which shows hurricane intensity is increasing.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

We just saw with hurricane IAN that hurricanes were INCREASING in intensity. There are estimates that IAN caused 100 billion dollars worth of damage. That was because of record Gulf water temperatures. Most scientists are in agreement that MAN is causing all the CHANGES to the climate around the world. Glaciers are disappearing. There are pictures that prove that.

People like to shoot down the messenger, Al Gore who did NOT say that the " sky is falling", but rather that the sky was filled with too much CO2. Today all the proof shows that Mr. Gore was right and that Gore-e-ness is predicted for the earth's future. In about 15 years there will be ZERO deniers of Global Climate Change. In 80 years vast areas of Africa and Asia will be UNINHABITABLE.

Florida is VERY susceptible to the worse effects of Climate Change. And will see more killer hurricanes like IAN next year. And many people say that it will take 5 years to rebuild from IAN. What will that mean when a NEW IAN hits next year and in 2024 and on and on? Scientists are NOT predicting Global Cooling in the next 30 years, just the opposite. All I see in Florida today is an attempt to ignore Climate ravaging and destruction......good luck with that !

One hurricane does not a trend make...

And just because you continue to repeat your : "most scientists believe that man is causing climate change" fallacy, does not make it true...

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Speaking of "Bunnies" and other furry mammals, fish, birds, and reptiles. The total worldwide population of those animals has decreased by 68% since 1970. To me 1970 onward seems suspiciously like a period of great human population growth. Florida increased from about 9 million people to 30 million people. Also, the time when scientists were beginning to talk about humans causing Climate Change. The coral reefs worldwide started dying. And the icing on the cake is this years hurricane IAN. Ma man.......IAN.

Florida has just over 21 million people, not 30 million.

It is exaggerations like that, that destroy the credibility of the argument being made.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

Florida has just over 21 million people, not 30 million.

It is exaggerations like that, that destroy the credibility of the argument being made.

1. Florida's population is increasing because people are moving out of colder regions. Humans are tropical in nature because we are born without fur -- which is why cold is the bigger killer. 2. Coral diversity and coverage has been changing up & down for the past 160 million (or so) years -- and records clearly show that they were more diverse when global temps and CO2 were much higher than today -- plus today, Great Barrier Reef coral growth is at a 36 year high. Find out much more on Oct 20 at 1:30 at Bridgeport.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

Florida has just over 21 million people, not 30 million.

It is exaggerations like that, that destroy the credibility of the argument being made.

I admit that I just asked a friend who said 30 million. But if you took 21 million and added in the Illegal aliens, you would be several million higher.

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I admit that I just asked a friend who said 30 million. But if you took 21 million and added in the Illegal aliens, you would be several million higher.

Most likely true.