[sounding]

Originally Posted by Proveone

It's called climate change. You are meeting to push more conspiracy "theories".

Come to the Climate Change Calamity talk to find out what climate alarmists are really doing under those glacier blankets.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by sounding

I don't have to answer it. I did not claim "man-made" CO2 is evil. In a civil society, the accuser has the burden of proof. The jury awaits your proof of CO2 guilt. Otherwise, CO2 is innocent. Cheers.

Ah! Well, I guess I am of the hook since I am not the one who said "man-made CO2 is evil". Humans, through their various activities, produce a multitude of different kinds of gas, many are harmful to the environment. When added to the natural balance said balance can become a danger. Ex, water is not evil, but too much water can drown you. Too much of anything can be problematic, no?

[manaboutown]

Today at my son's house in Sandpoint, Idaho it is now 2. The low was -7; high expected to be 10. So bring on the cow farts.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Interesting, but fallacious analysis.

First of all, as a retired professor of medicine at a NY university, I was neither "passed over" nor hate learned people. But it does mean I know how the academic system works.

You see, there are politically correct studies and those that are not-----the "correct" studies get the grant money. If you don't believe that, you are naive, and I suggest that you apply for a federal grant to do a study proving that global warming is completely independent of human activity. Rotsa ruck. So therefore, 90%+ of grant money goes to studies "proving" humans are the cause of global warming---and the more immediate and catastrophic, the better. Then, as even this thread proves, the acolytes come out of the woodwork claiming "90+% of climate scientists agree that global warming is caused by man"---no kidding, it is a foregone conclusion that would be touted.

Continuing the narrative, who gets published? Those who do studies, and the studies are done by those that have taken the federal grants to "prove" humans cause global warming. Then who gets tenure? Answer, those who publish.

Now, one might question why the powers that be want to push a false narrative on the public. The answer is simple---$139 TRILLION to comply with the Paris accords---which the US couldn't rush there quick enough to sign. Follow the money.

Bottom line, except for retired climatologists and those few that get grants from private foundations, it would be professional suicide for a climatologist to claim anything other than anthropomorphic climate change.

Now does everyone understand??????

Thank you for your answer to my question. I guess you will have to count me among the billions of naive who still believe that the majority is still more likely to be true. I don't doubt your experience, but I have a harder time doubting my own experience and seeing the evidence first hand throughout my lifelong travels worldwide.

[Ponygirl]

Yawn

Here we go again It’s a notice of a meeting of the weather club where everyone discusses climate change (in usually an uninformed way) on the forum

I am not able to show the picture of Alaska’s Muir Glacier But if you can look at the difference in the pictures from 1942 to 2004 that are available

Data shows that the average planetary temps have increased by 3 degrees over the last 100 years And 97% of climate scientists agree that climate change is real and human caused. In a recent survey 75% of people are concerned and 45% are very concerned abt climate change

I am most concerned abt negative impacts on health such as increased heat related illness Increased arboviruses and much much more.

Can also look at the increased numbers of billion dollar disasters and sea level rise

Recent studies on mental health and climate and a study by GWU on asthma and trips to emergency rooms of children living close to highways compared with other children in the same city are interesting

You probably never expect Florida to even say the words climate change but Lake county completed a green house gas inventory and is working on plans to address climate change mitigation and access to sustainable energy

Sorry for the length of this post. But I read the same old same old every month and wanted to comment

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Ponygirl

Yawn

Here we go again It’s a notice of a meeting of the weather club where everyone discusses climate change (in usually an uninformed way) on the forum

I am not able to show the picture of Alaska’s Muir Glacier But if you can look at the difference in the pictures from 1942 to 2004 that are available

Data shows that the average planetary temps have increased by 3 degrees over the last 100 years And 97% of climate scientists agree that climate change is real and human caused. In a recent survey 75% of people are concerned and 45% are very concerned abt climate change

I am most concerned abt negative impacts on health such as increased heat related illness Increased arboviruses and much much more.

Can also look at the increased numbers of billion dollar disasters and sea level rise

Recent studies on mental health and climate and a study by GWU on asthma and trips to emergency rooms of children living close to highways compared with other children in the same city are interesting

You probably never expect Florida to even say the words climate change but Lake county completed a green house gas inventory and is working on plans to address climate change mitigation and access to sustainable energy

Sorry for the length of this post. But I read the same old same old every month and wanted to comment

Thanks for adding this interesting information.

[Laraine]

Originally Posted by blueash

I don't know what training or degree in science you might have but that is in its entirety a load of manure.
You chose to answer a serious question with your complete lack of knowledge on display.

There are standards for temperature taking. It is true that the landscape around the thermometer can impact the reading, and the amount of said impact can be determined and corrected. Of course certain elements then scream about how scientists are altering data when in fact they are correcting data.

As to how many of the catastrophes have occurred... maybe you'll be more specific about what you think you've been warned about vs what Fox News lied to you about what the science has predicted.

I am so tired of hearing about the ice age predicted in the 70s. If you want the truth you could read this article from the Bulletin of the American Meterological Society titled : THE MYTH OF THE 1970s GLOBAL COOLING SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS

In that article you might learn that of peer reviewed studies published between 1965 and 1979 only 10% predicted future cooling, 28 % took no stance and 62% predicted global warming.

Meanwhile 2023 was the hottest year on record ever. Not even close.
The hottest 10 years ever recorded are each of the last ten. No year before 2014 had a higher average temperature than every single year since 2014.

The oceans are the great pool for absorbing heat, The oceans trap over 90% of the energy of heating of the earth. Global sea temperatures are at their highest level ever and rising.

Climatology was in its infancy in the 1960s to 1980s. No supercomputers, no longer term models, no sets of satellite data.

I present two graphs. One is the land temperature data the other the ocean data. As predicted but more than predicted the upward curves continue.

There are people here who love to joke about how cold it is today as if weather equals climate. And spew "what about the dinosaurs" But the truth is the globe is heating rapidly. It is heating because of the changes to our atmosphere caused by human activity overwhelming involving fossil fuels.

The only problem is your statement "ever" is only looking at the last couple hundred years, since we've been recording temperatures. Unfortunately, that's a little off, as the start of your data coincides with the coldest period in the last 10,000 years. As this graph, taken from ice cores and confirmed by peat bogs, tree rings and other experiments shows, the temperature was several degrees warmer about four thousand years ago. You're following a flawed experiment, being used to enrich many people.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Laraine

The only problem is your statement "ever" is only looking at the last couple hundred years, since we've been recording temperatures. Unfortunately, that's a little off, as the start of your data coincides with the coldest period in the last 10,000 years. As this graph, taken from ice cores and confirmed by peat bogs, tree rings and other experiments shows, the temperature was several degrees warmer about four thousand years ago. You're following a flawed experiment, being used to enrich many people.

IPCC Sixth Assessment Report - Wikipedia

I will go with the scientists.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by DAVES

I watch people and my opinion is rather low. Any problem and most say someone, ANYBODY BUT ME, should............ I'm retired as many of us are. My carbon footprint is way less than it used to be.
REALITY-I no longer produce anything.
Population. In 1950 the population of the US was 180 million. Today it is 350 million roughly doubled.
Perhaps, like rats on a drowning ship, people turn on each other. Solutions? For most of us others are the problem and others should. Florida where we live. Imagine living here without air conditioning.

Spend a lot of time in the water and it's very doable for me.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Ah! Well, I guess I am of the hook since I am not the one who said "man-made CO2 is evil". Humans, through their various activities, produce a multitude of different kinds of gas, many are harmful to the environment. When added to the natural balance said balance can become a danger. Ex, water is not evil, but too much water can drown you. Too much of anything can be problematic, no?

In other words you don't know how much man-made CO2 warmed the earth last year -- and neither does Al Gore since he too is afraid to answer that in public.

[sounding]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

IPCC Sixth Assessment Report - Wikipedia

I will go with the scientists.

Al Gore went with the scientists too ...

[mickey100]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

IPCC Sixth Assessment Report - Wikipedia

I will go with the scientists.

Me too. I ignore the gum flappers on TOTV. They believe in politics not science.

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by sounding

Al Gore went with the scientists too ...

Al is quite the interesting paradox. How to make a boatload of money by being wrong just about all of the time.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

I sense Pandora's box creaking open---you know who will jump on this thread with his imminent global warming catastrophe mythological rant. I'll bet within 1/2 hour.

Here's Johnny...............a little late.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by blueash

I don't know what training or degree in science you might have but that is in its entirety a load of manure.
You chose to answer a serious question with your complete lack of knowledge on display.

There are standards for temperature taking. It is true that the landscape around the thermometer can impact the reading, and the amount of said impact can be determined and corrected. Of course certain elements then scream about how scientists are altering data when in fact they are correcting data.

As to how many of the catastrophes have occurred... maybe you'll be more specific about what you think you've been warned about vs what Fox News lied to you about what the science has predicted.

I am so tired of hearing about the ice age predicted in the 70s. If you want the truth you could read this article from the Bulletin of the American Meterological Society titled : THE MYTH OF THE 1970s GLOBAL COOLING SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS

In that article you might learn that of peer reviewed studies published between 1965 and 1979 only 10% predicted future cooling, 28 % took no stance and 62% predicted global warming.

Meanwhile 2023 was the hottest year on record ever. Not even close.
The hottest 10 years ever recorded are each of the last ten. No year before 2014 had a higher average temperature than every single year since 2014.

The oceans are the great pool for absorbing heat, The oceans trap over 90% of the energy of heating of the earth. Global sea temperatures are at their highest level ever and rising.

Climatology was in its infancy in the 1960s to 1980s. No supercomputers, no longer term models, no sets of satellite data.

I present two graphs. One is the land temperature data the other the ocean data. As predicted but more than predicted the upward curves continue.

There are people here who love to joke about how cold it is today as if weather equals climate. And spew "what about the dinosaurs" But the truth is the globe is heating rapidly. It is heating because of the changes to our atmosphere caused by human activity overwhelming involving fossil fuels.

The TRUTH and well written.