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Old 06-02-2022, 05:38 PM
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Christianity - oh yeah. That's a good one. The religion that did the whole "convert or die" thing back during the Crusades. The thing that had Englanders rushing to the New World to escape persecution because their version of Christianity wasn't the "right kind."

Christianity - the #1 religion in Oklahoma, where over 75% of the population is some denomination or another of Christian.

Here's some clues: the majority of mass shooters in the USA were NOT athiests. Lack of universal background checks made it easier for them to get more guns and more ammo. Having universal background checks would likely not have stopped most of them. But it would've made it harder for them to get.

I'm not for a weapons ban - banning weapons doesn't stop weapons from being sold. But I am in favor of halting the manufacture of semi-automatics and retail sales. In other words - any currently in circulation should still be allowed to be in circulation. But from now on - any (semi-automatics) made will be for the military and the police, via contract. So there's 100% accountability in the chain of distribution.

I'm also for the clips that hold lots of rounds being restricted (not banned) to military/police use only. I don't know how many rounds, but certainly no one needs more than a couple of bullets to hit their target if they're properly trained.

I'm also for mandatory training and licensing, just as we do for driving motor vehicles.
I agree with testing.

Let's set up tests to determine if a person is intelligent enough to vote in elections.

Test to determine if a person is literate and knowledgeable enough of a subject to post on social media and in newspaper letters to the editor.

As to driver's licenses, we need to have annual mandatory evaluations of ability to drive for anyone over 55 years old.

Let's require education and licensing for marriage and child rearing. Nearly as many children are maimed or killed by child abusers as with firearms.
Forty to fifty percent of marriages end in divorce which creates serious emotional problems for children.

Require intelligence tests for jury members.
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Old 06-02-2022, 06:15 PM
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Oh Geez, that's easy. You're not gonna like the answer though:

1. Two-parent homes for raising children;
2. A stay-at home parent;
3. Put away "participation trophies" and teach kids that heartbreak and losing are life lessons and doing so gracefully is important;
4. Return to discipline. Kids are your responsibility to society, NOT your new cuddly best friend for you to pamper and indulge;
5. Return to a shared moral code. In the past, it was Christianity and regular church attendance;
6. Return to community norms. No more, "but it's their culture to be rude" excuses. Abide by community standards or face social ostracism;
7. A return to accountability and personal responsibility for one's actions and behaviors.
Amen!
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Old 06-02-2022, 06:18 PM
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Like ABC, NBC, CBS, and MSNBC?????
Spot on!
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Old 06-02-2022, 06:59 PM
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Social media and violent video games that kids have access too
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Old 06-02-2022, 08:17 PM
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Christianity - oh yeah. That's a good one. The religion that did the whole "convert or die" thing back during the Crusades. The thing that had Englanders rushing to the New World to escape persecution because their version of Christianity wasn't the "right kind."

Christianity - the #1 religion in Oklahoma, where over 75% of the population is some denomination or another of Christian.

Here's some clues: the majority of mass shooters in the USA were NOT athiests. Lack of universal background checks made it easier for them to get more guns and more ammo. Having universal background checks would likely not have stopped most of them. But it would've made it harder for them to get.

I'm not for a weapons ban - banning weapons doesn't stop weapons from being sold. But I am in favor of halting the manufacture of semi-automatics and retail sales. In other words - any currently in circulation should still be allowed to be in circulation. But from now on - any (semi-automatics) made will be for the military and the police, via contract. So there's 100% accountability in the chain of distribution.

I'm also for the clips that hold lots of rounds being restricted (not banned) to military/police use only. I don't know how many rounds, but certainly no one needs more than a couple of bullets to hit their target if they're properly trained.

I'm also for mandatory training and licensing, just as we do for driving motor vehicles.
A 5 round magazine in a bolt action would be enough for hunting and home defense.
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Old 06-02-2022, 08:20 PM
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Prior to 2004 there was a ban on “Assault weapons” but it expired. Were things better then? Just asking….
After 2005 mass shootings went up.
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Old 06-03-2022, 12:14 AM
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I just picked up four 32 round magazines to fit my handguns and PCC. Great price, almost half of what the local gun shops would have charged to ship in. I love this state
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Old 06-03-2022, 12:22 AM
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1. Regain law and order.
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Old 06-03-2022, 12:38 AM
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Oh Geez, that's easy. You're not gonna like the answer though:

1. Two-parent homes for raising children;
2. A stay-at home parent;
3. Put away "participation trophies" and teach kids that heartbreak and losing are life lessons and doing so gracefully is important;
4. Return to discipline. Kids are your responsibility to society, NOT your new cuddly best friend for you to pamper and indulge;
5. Return to a shared moral code. In the past, it was Christianity and regular church attendance;
6. Return to community norms. No more, "but it's their culture to be rude" excuses. Abide by community standards or face social ostracism;
7. A return to accountability and personal responsibility for one's actions and behaviors.
I actually thought you were joking/sarcastic with this response, but I guess not.

Check how many other G7 countries had multiple mass shootings this week? Zero. Same as last week.

For point #1, didn't a couple of the last mass shooters get their AR-15's from their two-parent homes as birthday or Christmas gifts?

You can say with a straight face that guns have nothing to do with the problem?
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Old 06-03-2022, 01:54 AM
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I actually thought you were joking/sarcastic with this response, but I guess not.

Check how many other G7 countries had multiple mass shootings this week? Zero. Same as last week.

For point #1, didn't a couple of the last mass shooters get their AR-15's from their two-parent homes as birthday or Christmas gifts?

You can say with a straight face that guns have nothing to do with the problem?
Guns have nothing to do with the problem. Did you blame Uhaul for the Oklahoma City Bombing? Was Porsche responsible for Paul Pelosi driving drunk and causing an accident. The shooter was the only person responsible
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Old 06-03-2022, 04:48 AM
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Violent movies, violent video games, kids today are desensitized, blood and guts mean nothing to them.
100% agree
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Old 06-03-2022, 05:15 AM
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A 5 round magazine in a bolt action would be enough for hunting and home defense.
Nope.

Home owner is going to be nervous & scared.......not going to be aiming the best......15 shots will do a much better job. Just like police, keep shooting until the bad guy is down.
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Old 06-03-2022, 05:24 AM
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I agree with testing.

Let's set up tests to determine if a person is intelligent enough to vote in elections.

Test to determine if a person is literate and knowledgeable enough of a subject to post on social media and in newspaper letters to the editor.

As to driver's licenses, we need to have annual mandatory evaluations of ability to drive for anyone over 55 years old.

Let's require education and licensing for marriage and child rearing. Nearly as many children are maimed or killed by child abusers as with firearms.
Forty to fifty percent of marriages end in divorce which creates serious emotional problems for children.

Require intelligence tests for jury members.
Excellent idea, long overdue ,, I will of course be in charge of making the decision as to the criteria and have both criminal and civil authority to enforce the needed measures
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Old 06-03-2022, 06:52 AM
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21 more mass shootings since the Texas School shooting just 11 days ago, and not a new idea, suggestion, just same old complains about how "someone" destroyed our country and we need to ban all AR-15s. Both sides stuck. Repeating the same mantras since this got going for real over 20 year ago.

Round and round. Hating and not trusting while our children, grandchildren, and neighbors die. Everyone has their own favorite theory and is sticking to it by god.
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Old 06-03-2022, 07:17 AM
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Like ABC, NBC, CBS, and MSNBC?????
Never a fan of broad brush descriptions of anything, a liberal could include Fox, which in sheer numbers of news media bias would speak for itself.
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