[Eg_cruz]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Successful lawsuits against gun manufacturers might get some changes like those the tobacco companies underwent decades ago.

Did it stop everyone from smoking …….nope

[donassaid]

I guess you forget Nazi Germany, Venezuela and every other Communist and Socialist country whose first move is to take all the guns. What part of "if you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns" do you not understand?

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by Djean1981

Very true. A lot of the behavior is driven by wanting attention. The shooter was posting on social media prior to the shootings. Social media has created a lot of narcissists.

Indeed!

Social media. The ultimate oxymoron.

[Vikingjunior]

Friendly reminder, Hunter Biden obtained a gun illegally and tossed in a trash can near a school.

[Randyj66]

Most people who are voicing there opinions are sitting behind a locked door, however the most important people ,the children are not! Please lock our schools down and solve this problem ������ More than 75 percent of adults work behind locked doors, just doesn't make sense.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by Vikingjunior

Friendly reminder, Hunter Biden obtained a gun illegally and tossed in a trash can near a school.

Really?? Never heard that one.

I need to Phone a Friend.

[Eg_cruz]

Originally Posted by banjobob

The problem is not the gun, the problem is single parent households . The decline of the family unit in not married shacking up and producing babies , pretending to be legitimate, women being left to raise children .Compare Chicago, most gun control in the country ,worst gun violence in the country. Massachusetts no gun permit required ,safest state for gun violence. Politicians scream to repeal allowing gun ownership, Nonsense ! Hold parents responsible for their childrens behavior, period.

Littleton shooters lived with both parents

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by Eg_cruz

Did it stop everyone from smoking …….nope

Smoking cut in half in less than 20 years. As this relates to this thread, if we cut the mass shootings in half that would be 100 less mass shootings this year alone.

While we may not completely 100% solve a problem, that doesn't mean we shouldn't do what we can.

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by Vikingjunior

Friendly reminder, Hunter Biden obtained a gun illegally and tossed in a trash can near a school.

Friendly reminder, Hunter obtained the gun legally, and his wife threw it away. But other than that your post is accurate.

[Linnberg]

Originally Posted by MrFlorida

Maybe we should not let our children play violent video games that gives them the idea that it's ok to kill people ?

I’m sorry but that is way to simplistic which has now become an incredibly
Complex issue. Part
Of problem is that it is in our founding culture, add
To that, very little mental awareness or help. Yes licensing and restriction of AR rifles would help but we are so past that as a possible solution. Hope that our
Society finds more answers as now everyone expects it to
Become even more rampant. Certainly open carry with no
Restrictions cannot help the problem.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Eg_cruz

Could not agree with you more. Let’s also look at Hollywood and the movies they make.

Growing up see war movies and cowboy movies and we all carried pocket knives and cap pistols.

How come the older generation has not killed itself off?

Do not know the answer but taken guns from law abiding citizens is not it.

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by Woodbear

The shooter legally purchased two AR platform rifles from a federally licensed gun store. This WOULD have required a background check.

And an 18 year old with no criminal background passed, and walked out with almost 400 rounds and 2 ar15s.

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by GOLFER54

One would be foolish to believe that guns are the problem. There are kids and adults that are mentally unstable, some take medications, others seek help, some do not. If an unstable person gets a gun, whether it be legal or illegally and if they have bad intentions, how is anyone to know if they plan to do harm to others ?Criminals on the other hand carry guns with the intentions if they are cornered or interrupted during their crime they will no doubt shoot someone. Those folks that have purchased a gun legally have the intentions of protecting themselves or their love ones. Sadly we see that mass murders in US has seen more than 200 mass shootings since January.

So, if I understand you, there are NO mentally unstable people in the rest of the world?

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by banjobob

The problem is not the gun, the problem is single parent households . The decline of the family unit in not married shacking up and producing babies , pretending to be legitimate, women being left to raise children .Compare Chicago, most gun control in the country ,worst gun violence in the country. Massachusetts no gun permit required ,safest state for gun violence. Politicians scream to repeal allowing gun ownership, Nonsense ! Hold parents responsible for their childrens behavior, period.

Absolutely!

Back in the day, the "day" in question being 1965, guns in school was nothing out of the ordinary. Gun safety training was offered at the high school I attended and on the range days seeing kids with guns on buses was totally normal. We had to store them at the Principal's office until range time but the ammo we just carried loose in our pockets. Oh--and no self-respecting lad at my school would EVER be caught without his trusty Barlow pocket knife. Saw a teacher borrow one from a kid one time when the pencil sharpener was on the fritz.

The three biggest behavior problems were talking in class, chewing gum and running in the halls. And even then, you didn't want your parents knowing. Mom and Dad had a talk with each of us at a young age: "never get in trouble at school and complain to us about it, because you'll be in twice as much trouble when you get home". And they meant it.

Oh--just about all of came from two married parents households, raised to take responsibility for our actions, respect hard work, and to take pride in academic accomplishments. One of the proudest days of my high-school life was when I was invited to join the National Honor Society. School was a privilege, not an obligation.

Guns were as deadly back then as they are now. But being raised in the right circumstances, with the right values, meant that we respected guns much as would respect any other tool. Blaming the guns for today's ills is on the same par as blaming the fork because you gained ten pounds. Want to fix the problem? Fix the FAMILY.

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by WingedFoot78

In the "Wild West Days" ammunition capacity was limited to six shots or whatever the rifles of the times held. Now with the AR type weapons, the capacity has increased multiple times. Is there any need for these types of weapons? Can you hunt legally with them?

Questioning the "need" for a gun or guns is just another way of avoiding discussing the real problems behind the violence of today. It is on a par with questioning the "need" for so many pairs of shoes.

And yes. You can hunt with them. My grandson shot his first deer with one, a 10-point buck.