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Old 05-26-2022, 05:39 AM
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What do You expect when Americans take GOD out of everything and insert the Worldly ways into everything?? Guns have never killed anyone, it’s the person using the Gun!
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Old 05-26-2022, 05:44 AM
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Don’t start with the Anti Gun carp. Guns are not the problem! People are the problem and in particular young people. All the shooters were in the age range of 18-20. We are not raising our kids properly like it or not. Respect is gone and Religion is nearly gone especially for young kids. You mentioned Japan well the difference is not about guns it’s about Respect. They still teach it!

Anyone who thinks that banning or worse conversation of guns will fix the problem is a fool. We will become a world of Mad Max.
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Old 05-26-2022, 05:46 AM
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What do You expect when Americans take GOD out of everything and insert the Worldly ways into everything?? Guns have never killed anyone, it’s the person using the Gun!
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Old 05-26-2022, 05:47 AM
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Great, maybe we can sue the alcohol companies for all their destruction and car manufacturers because their cars can mow down people at a parade and knife companies too.
When do people start taking responsibility for their own behavior?

They can make all the gun laws they want but if this society doesn't change its tune it's only going to get worst.
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Old 05-26-2022, 05:52 AM
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How about installing metal detectors? It works for the airports.
The shooter in Robb would certainly have been stopped if he knew he would have to go through a metal detector.
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Old 05-26-2022, 05:59 AM
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19 innocent children, 2 dedicated teachers, lives lost, solution????? More guns, bigger prisons, NOT. Japan, no guns unless police and military, murder rate .3 percent per 100,000, America, 4.7 per 100,000. Mental health wake up call.
There are more deaths from car accidents caused by texting and alcohol but we don’t ban cars, iPhones or booze.

Celebrities and politicians screaming “ban guns” enjoy the security of ARMED security.

Did the fact that shooter was transgender make the police scared of being called transphobic from taking legal action of the shooter’s prior violent behavior- shooting people with a BB gun from his home and car, assaulting people, threatening violence??

Forbidding law abiding citizens from owning guns won’t stop gun violence- it will leave only the criminals and the government with guns to do violence against law abiding citizens- ask the hundreds of millions of unarmed citizens of China, USSR, Nazi Germany, Cuba etc slaughtered by their government that first enacted laws to take away their guns, ensuring their citizens wouldn’t be able to protect themselves.

One must be MOST scared of any government that is afraid of it’s citizen owning guns.

I don’t think it’s coincidence that since the law making schools a “gun free zone” back in the 90’s, school shootings skyrocketed- the government wanted school shootings to sicken and scare the citizens into willingly giving up their guns- it looks less fascist if the citizens volunteer to give up their guns. The law made our schools like lame sheep waiting for the slaughter. We need teachers and administrators that are capable gun users to have guns along with armed security officers back in schools.

It’s not a coincidence that we don’t see there mass shootings at gun stores and shooting ranges.
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Old 05-26-2022, 06:01 AM
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Please, guns don’t kill people, people kill people.
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Old 05-26-2022, 06:04 AM
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Tim McVeigh killed 19 children and 168 people in total with only fertilizer and diesel fuel
Yes he did that was one case 27 years ago.. How many schools haver been attacked this year so far? Over 200 mass shootings so far this year.
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19 innocent children, 2 dedicated teachers, lives lost, solution????? More guns, bigger prisons, NOT. Japan, no guns unless police and military, murder rate .3 percent per 100,000, America, 4.7 per 100,000. Mental health wake up call.
Control the media minions would be a start. They falsely report on what an AR15 even is. At this point they are biased on race of perps. They fix the narritive and manipulate the cherry picked audience and then when conditions are just right they set up copycats. It's a digusting display for $$ and ratings.

Prayers do work and evil is real. Mental health care is a factor and so is the ability for the healthy to defend.
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Old 05-26-2022, 06:08 AM
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It’s amazing how most on this site repost the same old talking points from Fox noise and the far right gun nutz! The issue is very simple,,,,, stronger background checks- what we have now is lame and useless! Not one person in america needs to own an Assault rifle! NO ONE!. Not one person in America needs to own body armor! If any 18 year old child purchases an Assault rifle, body armor, and massive ammo,,,,RED FLAG folks!
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Old 05-26-2022, 06:10 AM
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As always, it's not the method, it's the individual. 11 teenagers die daily from text/driving. Legal owners have 300 million guns, trillion rounds of ammo, if we were the problem, you'd now it. If gun control worked, Chicago would be Mayberry USA. I have no problem with strict background checks when it comes to firearms, can we use the same checks that are used for voter ID? How about relaxing HEPA, and maybe these people can be identified BEFORE instead of after. Parents are failing their kids and society is failing us
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Maybe we should not let our children play violent video games that gives them the idea that it's ok to kill people ?
Could not agree with you more. Let’s also look at Hollywood and the movies they make.
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Please, guns don’t kill people, people kill people.
Please, people drunk in cars don’t kill people, alcohol kills people! GEEZ Give me a break!
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Old 05-26-2022, 06:12 AM
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Perhaps we should ban ALL "bad" guns, right? I only have good guns so I am fine. None of my guns have gone on shooting/killing sprees, so they be good lil' guns. After all, it's not the people wielding the guns, it's the guns that are bad and the people just don't know how to keep them from going out and killing the innocent folks. Of course, more people are killed by doctors than guns so maybe we should also ban doctors. How about those evil cars? After all, it 's not the drunk driver's fault. They don't kill people, just the cars that run over people and destroy other folks property.
Get over it. Guns have NOTHING to do with EVIL thoughts. They are just a tool, used for a purpose. Some folks just insist on using guns for the wrong purpose, killing the innocent. If you go to countries with gun bans, you will see that they have more knife murders than we do. Evil people will always find a way to perpetrate evil, whether with a gun, knife, bomb, fire, ax, hammer, etc.
Like someone else said, try banning certain video games to children.
Teach children to respect life at an early age. Teach them the value of life. People are not born evil, they learn it from someone.
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Control the media minions would be a start. They falsely report on what an AR15 even is.
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