[Marine1974]

I think it’s more like any American can buy weapons that can fire 400 rounds per minute. Even the inventors of these weapons agree it is a weapon designed for Military use in combat .

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy

Whose god do you want in schools? Yours. I don't want my kid indoctrinated. Your god is banned from schools by the Constitution.

So is teaching off the state approved requirements. Teachers are paid to teach approved state material, not what they think should be taught. I don’t want my kids indoctrinated by teachers agenda.

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

“A .22 with an ammo clip”?

Most recent descriptions describe the AR-15 as the most destructive rifle against human flesh ever used in armed combat. A .22? Like what kids use to shoot squirrels?

An AR-15 does shoot a type of 22cal ammo. It just has more powder charge. It is NOT an automatic weapon, and is NOT a combat weapon. Although, I suppose ANY rifle could be used in combat. But that does not make "any" rifle an assault weapon. Most folks speak of "assault" weapons as automatic rifles. An automatic rifle fires multiple rounds when the trigger is pulled. An M-14 rifle fires a 7.62mm round or a 308cal and has the ability to fire automatic when a selector switch is installed. That was the combat rifle used in years past in our military. M-16 rifles were then utilized in jungle conditions because of the short size and the ability to carry a lot more ammo on the person, with less weight. Also the M-16, being shorter was less likely to be as bulky maneuvering in the jungle. An AR-15 is basically a semiautomatic version of the military M-16. The M-16 has the ability to fire automatically, where the M-15 can not. A Ruger Mini-14 uses the same ammo as the AR-15 and the M-16. A Remington 700 that fires 308 ammo basically fires the same ammo as the M-14. You can purchase any number of pistols that fire 9mm ammo that are not considered "assault" weapons, but an Uzi fires automatically and is considered an assault weapon by many. I am not a weapons expert, but have used a multitude of different weapons in my lifetime, some in the military, some in law enforcement and some in recreation. Muskets were considered military weapons when the Constitution was created. Are they "assault" weapons? It's all a matter of perspective. The point is that anything can be used as a weapon to destroy or a tool to protect or supply food for the table. Time to be realistic and concentrate on the cause of violence, not the means of violence.

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

BS!

Nope

[Scbang]

Originally Posted by GOLFER54

One would be foolish to believe that guns are the problem. There are kids and adults that are mentally unstable, some take medications, others seek help, some do not. If an unstable person gets a gun, whether it be legal or illegally and if they have bad intentions, how is anyone to know if they plan to do harm to others ?Criminals on the other hand carry guns with the intentions if they are cornered or interrupted during their crime they will no doubt shoot someone. Those folks that have purchased a gun legally have the intentions of protecting themselves or their love ones. Sadly we see that mass murders in US has seen more than 200 mass shootings since January.

There will always be killings as long as human species exist. The questions is how many and haw fast can one kill.

With baseball bat, knife, punching, etc..
vs. Automatic rifle, machine gun, handgun, etc..

Yes even a hunting bow can kill from a distance but not at the rate of AR-15.

If we have to have guns for hunting and ranching and other purposes, maybe it's time for license and registrations also insurance. Powerful Insurance companies might be able to do something our politicians and all of can not do.

Sadness.

[nn0wheremann]

Somehow we must bring into balance our rights under the Second (keep and bear arms) and Fourth (be secure in our persons, houses, papers, and effects) Amendments.

[PugMom]

Originally Posted by spd2918

Ted Kennedy's Oldsmobile has killed more people than all my guns combined.

[MDLNB]

A Ruger 10/22 is a semiauto 22cal rifle that allows one to insert magazines that will hold anywhere from 10 to 50 rounds of ammo or more. Is that an assault weapon? Or, is it not used by the military so it is not considered dangerous? M-16's and AR-15's are basically 22cal rifles (223). Pellet rifles can be purchased that are fully automatic and legal. You can purchase a 22cal fully automatic pellet rifle or pistol without a background check. Do you wish to be in front of one that is being fired at you?
Like I said, people are the problem.

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by nn0wheremann

Somehow we must bring into balance our rights under the Second (keep and bear arms) and Fourth (be secure in our persons, houses, papers, and effects) Amendments.

The 2nd protects you against violations of the 4th.

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by MDLNB

Time to be realistic and concentrate on the cause of violence, not the means of violence.

Why not do both?

[PugMom]

Originally Posted by rsimpson

Hey, Moderator! I get a warning for saying "Brandon Gas" and you let THIS POLICAL POST continue. Whatkind of rules do you run this site with? Seriously!?

am not that sure this thread walks that line. this issue involves all parties & all citizens, maybe that's why they left it open. there's some very good points here to consider--on all sides

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by MDLNB

The 2nd protects you against violations of the 4th.

It protected the children?

[fraurose]

Plus do not advertise all this on the news , just give someone else the idea how to do it !

[PugMom]

& that was one of the good points i was referring to, very effective

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by MDLNB

A Ruger 10/22 is a semiauto 22cal rifle that allows one to insert magazines that will hold anywhere from 10 to 50 rounds of ammo or more. Is that an assault weapon? Or, is it not used by the military so it is not considered dangerous? M-16's and AR-15's are basically 22cal rifles (223). Pellet rifles can be purchased that are fully automatic and legal. You can purchase a 22cal fully automatic pellet rifle or pistol without a background check. Do you wish to be in front of one that is being fired at you?
Like I said, people are the problem.

You seem to be focused on the wording, "assault weapon" while ignoring the AR15 is the most popular gun sold in America. It is also designed to "appear" like it's military counter part while meeting government regulations. And of course not least, it is the weapon of choice in most mass shootings since it's release.

So, call it what ever you like...

And, I expect if AR15s were completely 100% banned, then the people wanting to kill a lot of people quickly would simply move to another weapon, like some of those you have pointed out would be much better to use.

So, I personally have no desire to BAN all guns. I think the horse have left that barn. With close to 400 million in circulation there is no practical way to ban them. However, that doesn't mean we should do nothing. Cool down periods, ager restrictions, and other means could be used/tried. And, personally I also would like to see a Federal Law that required some minimum level of control. And if a state is found to not be enforcing that minimum level the state would be held responsible/liable for any casualties that resulted.