[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I think she is wrong. I know of a person who fostered six children. (I don't know her well) She was a social worker and her husband sells insurance. I don't think she did it for the money, not at all, but I think those kids, who had all kinds of issues to begin with, would have been much better off if there were only a couple or three of them in the home. You just replace one bunch of not good things with another bunch of not good things if you have too many children who need you desperately. Yes it is a nice thing on the face of it, but the interaction and the teaching and the attention to each child is way more than the "normal" parent child situation.

It is another complex situation that there is no real answer. I think drugs are a huge part of most broken up homes where children are away from their birth parents.

People who do not really know what they are talking about when it comes to the needs of dependent children often make summary judgements about dependent children that causes them more harm than good. The world is a mess and it isn't caused primarily by race in my opinion. Most of the dire situations are caused by addiction to drugs.

Since SHE is the one who lived it and is the one who adopted the black kids...I think she probably knows of what she speaks.

[B767drvr]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

And then there are those who refuse to recognize, or want to totally ignore/hide from the fact...that race DOES play a big part.

One only has to read the foster mom's post...to quickly realize that.

But thanks...for your opinion.

I'm reluctant to put words in your mouth... BUT... I think you're confusing racial profiling with racism. Cops racially profile those that commit the majority of crime (black), and you're confusing that with RACISM. I've met black police officers that are racist against black people because of their statistical over-representation in the committal of crimes. Racism and racial profiling are similar, but with distinct differences.

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by B767drvr

I'm reluctant to put words in your mouth... BUT... I think you're confusing racial profiling with racism. Cops racially profile those that commit the majority of crime (black), and you're confusing that with RACISM. I've met black police officers that are racist against black people because of their statistical over-representation in the committal of crimes. Racism and racial profiling are similar, but with distinct differences.

If it walks like a duck...

[B767drvr]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

If it walks like a duck...

Waaay more succinct!

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by B767drvr

I'm reluctant to put words in your mouth... BUT... I think you're confusing racial profiling with racism. Cops racially profile those that commit the majority of crime (black), and you're confusing that with RACISM. I've met black police officers that are racist against black people because of their statistical over-representation in the committal of crimes. Racism and racial profiling are similar, but with distinct differences.

Sorry, I'm not confused in the least.

I'm also not reluctant in saying that the facts show, that it IS RACISM and all of its disgusting ugliness...that is at the root in the "over-representation."

And every time people try to use your line of reasoning...it simply perpetuates the problem and ugliness.

I explained it and showed the proof right here.


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Key Findings

Consistent with its previous reports, the Commission found that sentence length continues to be associated with some demographic factors. In particular, after controlling for a wide variety of sentencing factors, the Commission found:

Black male offenders continued to receive longer sentences than similarly situated White male offenders. Black male offenders received sentences on average 19.1 percent longer than similarly situated White male offenders during the Post-Report period (fiscal years 2012-2016), as they had for the prior four periods studied. The differences in sentence length remained relatively unchanged compared to the Post-Gall period.

Non-government sponsored departures and variances appear to contribute significantly to the difference in sentence length between Black male and White male offenders. Black male offenders were 21.2 percent less likely than White male offenders to receive a non-government sponsored downward departure or variance during the Post-Report period.

Furthermore, when Black male offenders did receive a non-government sponsored departure or variance, they received sentences 16.8 percent longer than White male offenders who received a non-government sponsored departure or variance. In contrast, there was a 7.9 percent difference in sentence length between Black male and White male offenders who received sentences within the applicable sentencing guidelines range, and there was no statistically significant difference in sentence length between Black male and White male offenders who received a substantial assistance departure.

Violence in an offender’s criminal history does not appear to account for any of the demographic differences in sentencing. Black male offenders received sentences on average 20.4 percent longer than similarly situated White male offenders, accounting for violence in an offender’s past in fiscal year 2016, the only year for which such data is available. This figure is almost the same as the 20.7 percent difference without accounting for past violence. Thus, violence in an offender’s criminal history does not appear to contribute to the sentence imposed to any extent beyond its contribution to the offender’s criminal history score determined under the sentencing guidelines.

[ColdNoMore]

And even if you're a billionaire, but you're black...the racism doesn't end.


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Smith said he still wrestles with racism today. "It affects every black person in America. I still feel it today, and it's disturbing," he said.

"In spending time with my teenage children, talking about the effects of racism on them, the effects of racism that I still see when trying to raise capital ... those dynamics, unfortunately, they have been embedded.

This is the whole point of ‘systemic,’ [it’s] embedded into the psyche of Americans and the institutions of America.

And those are the things we have to eradicate."

P.S. For those that won't bother to read the link...here's the person who said it.

CEO Reed Hastings and his wife Patty Quillin are committing $120 million to the United Negro College Fund and historically black higher education institutions Spelman College and Morehouse College.

The donation, the largest of its kind, was partly inspired by Robert F. Smith, CEO and chairman of Vista Equity Partners, who last year announced that he would pay off the student debt of about 400 Morehouse College students.

[B767drvr]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

Sorry, I'm not confused in the least.

I'm also not reluctant in saying that the facts show, that it IS RACISM and all of its disgusting ugliness...that is at the root in the "over-representation."

And every time people try to use your line of reasoning...it simply perpetuates the problem and ugliness.

I explained it and showed the proof right here.


Click Here

CNM... as I've told you privately, I enjoy your perspective, even though I rarely agree with it. We disagree ...that the average policeman in America wakes up and can't wait to apparently exert his authority, especially over minorities.

The police officers that I know, personally, though I admit I live in a "lily white" beach town, just do their job, help people, and want to come home to their beautiful children. That's it... actually. No more drama, they just want to help people, do their job, and come home to their family.

[JimJohnson]

I see it as a cold blooded murder and if the victim was white so would everyone else. Unfortunately, my own white Friends and Relatives don’t believe minorities should receive the same level of justice as white people.

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

If it walks like a duck...

Could be a young goose?

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

And Ted Williams, paid commentator by Fox, should be believed over all of those who see it differently...because?

As far as being "overcharged," we'll see...as that is also arguable.

I think that falls under the phrase..."throwing the book at them."

1. Brooks was shot in the back,TWICE, while running away and not being a deadly threat to the cop (not only is a taser not considered a "deadly" weapon, it was useless after being discharged twice).

2. Rolfe (the skinhead looking shooter cop) kicked Brooks...as Brooks was laying on the ground dying.

3. The other cop (Brosnan), stood on Brooks shoulder...as Brooks was laying on the ground dying.

4. Brosnan 'policing' the brass from the gun, before any attempt at rendering aid to Brooks...who was laying on the ground dying.

5. Rolfe crowing "I got him" after shooting Brooks (twice, in the back, as a reminder).

6. Brosnan is volunteering to be a state witness and step over that "thin blue line"...that has allowed all too many other LEO's in getting off.


Knowing all of these facts, I predict it won't even go to court...but a plea deal will be worked out.

Hopefully, if justice is served...Rolfe will serve a very long time in prison.

I also predict, that there will be a concerted effort to obfuscate/divert/distract/insert "whataboutism"...into this issue/thread.



But back to my question...has anyone (given the additional facts revealed today), changed from their original position?

If not...why not?

Here is how perpetrators are sometimes shot in the back.

[JimJohnson]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

Here is how perpetrators are sometimes shot in the back.

And in this case that would be murder as the officer knew the man running away was holding a taser. The Officer had training before he went on the force and went rouge instead of using his training. When I was in Vietnam I would not have shot a viet citizen in the back for pointing at me with a non lethal weapon. Murder as clear as day!

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by JimJohnson

And in this case that would be murder as the officer knew the man running away was holding a taser. The Officer had training before he went on the force and went rouge instead of using his training. When I was in Vietnam I would not have shot a viet citizen in the back for pointing at me with a non lethal weapon. Murder as clear as day!

First of all, it looks like the officer is holding a taser and the man running away is holding a gun. Secondly, officers are trained to consider a taser a lethal weapon because if the officer gets tased, the perp then has access to his gun.

Not murder at all. Not even manslaughter. It's called justifiable shooting and self defense.

[CatskillBill]

This is what happened on a routine traffic stop in Pa.
I guess he was "jovial" too, (as the DA in Atlanta said about George Floyd) until they try to cuff him.
Then he goes bizzerk.

Warning this video may upset normal peace loving viewers, and you'll never see it on "lame stream media".

All these criminals have to do is comply.

You couldn't pay me enough to be a LEO.

God bless our men and women in Law Enforcement.


Dashcam video shows gun battle between 2 Pennsylvania State Police troopers and motorist on Route 33 - The Morning Call

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

And even if you're a billionaire, but you're black...the racism doesn't end.


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P.S. For those that won't bother to read the link...here's the person who said it.

What percentage of the white people that you know...even slightly, do you think are racist? Do these people have a commonality? A certain kind of religion, a place of birth, a level of education, an IQ level?

[ColdNoMore]

"Percentage?"

Much higher than decent people would expect...or want.



Commonality?

Overt and subtle...racism and bigotry.

Also often, misogyny/xenophobia...added in for good measure.

With most, protesting otherwise and unwilling...to admit it.