[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Scorpyo

You’re doing what you are accusing the cop of doing. Pulling the trigger too quick. If we have learned anything it’s the story changes not by the day but by the minute. I’m in Alpharetta Georgia (just outside of Atlanta) right now. The non shooting cops attorney was on last night. It is a lie when they said he flipped on the other cop. Also they showed a body cam where the cop is begging the perp to breathe and is giving him CPR. Anyone who believes that mob controlled, up for re-election corrupted DA should come see me. I have a bridge to sell them.

Proof exists that the CPR was over 2 minutes after he was shot... and also after being kicked/stood on.

Context is everything.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Pegasusprt

Not to even mention, the cop that didn't shoot is volunteering to testify...as a state witness. Fake News

Wrong.

The DA is the one that said it in the press conference...outlining the charges.

The "news" reported it correctly.

Obviously though, someone got to the cop that didn't shoot...and he changed his mind.

I wonder who in the world...that could be?

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

"Victim blaming and denigration'... is sadly not new.

It's often used (paraphrasing) to justify rape, sexual assault or other violent actions, because; "they weren't exactly virgins," "they were dressed provocatively" or "they were a prostitute, so they should expect to get beaten up"

No way anyone could convince me, or other decent American citizens, that in this particular case the actions of Brooks...deserved a judge, jury and execution...by a cop.

Particularly after seeing the cops response (kicking/standing on), after he was already on the ground dying from being shot twice in the back...and BEFORE attempting to render any medical aid.

Even in the old wild, wild, west, there was a code...that you don't shoot someone in the back, or kick them when they're down.

The question is this; Is victim blaming and denigration as bad or the same or worse than felony false imprisonment and felony credit card fraud?

If you were the dad, Which of the two would you wish for your son???

[anothersteve]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

Wrong.

Obviously though, someone got to the cop that didn't shoot...and he changed his mind.

Conjecture.
Steve

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

The question is this; Is victim blaming and denigration as bad or the same or worse than felony false imprisonment and felony credit card fraud?

If you were the dad, Which of the two would you wish for your son???

A total 'false choice fallacy.'

What I would want, is the reason my son was killed in a situation that didn't warrant it...REGARDLESS of what he had done in the past.

Let the sentencing, if any, determine how his past should affect...the current situation.

Here's a question for you...along that same false premise.

Would you blame your daughter/granddaughter if she was raped/sexually assaulted at a party, where she had been drinking...and had worn skimpy clothes?

Would that have been their fault and the perp...should be excused?

[Scorpyo]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

Proof exists that the CPR was over 2 minutes after he was shot... and also after being kicked/stood on.

Context is everything.

Whose proof? The process in GA is that when there’s a police shooting local police back off and the GBI takes over. The DA waits to get the results of the GBIs investigation before proceeding. This did not happen, why? If you want facts here’s some for you. The black DA is up for re-election. It is tightly contested. He’s also under investigation for corruption. So how does he try to get re-elected? He’s black. He’s in Fulton County, which is largely black. What better way to pacify and get the black mob on his side than to charge and convict a white cop without the required GBI investigation. Way higher number of sick calls from Atlanta police today. So it begins.

[newgirl]

That is because of the union and the fact that unless the exact same crime happened exactly the same way in the same area and the cop has been proven guilty( impossible since it is impossible for exact anything to happen twice) then they are immune from prosecution. A case where a man ran into the woods ( no gun)and a cop shot him in the back when he fell was not charged because that had not happened before exactly that way, then a man ran ( no gun) and fell in a ditch and the cop shot him in the back a few months later same area, because one was shot in the woods, one in a ditch meant that no charges were filed toward either cop for what was out and out cold blooded intentional murder . Only difference was location of the fall.
Please watch Patriot Act - policing on utube or Netflix . It will terrify you once to see the documents proving that convicting or suing a cop is damn near impossible and if you get lucky and charges are made, cops do not get any real punishment for murder or abuse. Victims always get victimized over and over... Time for huge changes!

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

A total 'false choice fallacy.'

What I would want, is the reason my son was killed in a situation that didn't warrant it...REGARDLESS of what he had done in the past.

Let the sentencing, if any, determine how his past should affect...the current situation.

Here's a question for you...along that same false premise.

Would you blame your daughter/granddaughter if she was raped/sexually assaulted at a party, where she had been drinking...and had worn skimpy clothes?

Would that have been their fault and the perp...should be excused?

We Catholics always called that "putting yourself in the near occasion of sin". We Germans called this getting yourself in big trouble for not using your head. I would have been plenty upset and damn mad at her for sure. This is all about teaching your kids about decision making. We talked a hell of a lot in our family about drinking and driving and drinking and sex. We all know how lives can be ruined forever with drinking and sex, both genders..........actually all genders.....

My kids heard three things over and over and over............

Don't drink and drive (or have sex)
Don't have unprotected sex.
Save your money.

They all wait at the door as they say good bye even now, because I still say it.

[Mardarlowe]

Raising my hand. Self defense

[manaboutown]

This inept clown of a DA has a questionable history. GBI investigating DA Paul Howard over use of nonprofit

[GoodLife]

Imagine being so naïve that you think these officers are being charged "in the name of justice."

[Lisa C]

Unfortunately, I see a future in which you will be hard pressed to find good dedicated law enforcement officers who will WANT to wear a badge

[airstreamingypsy]

Originally Posted by B767drvr

Seems like a common thread to all of these deaths is NOT COOPERATING with the police. Quit attacking cops, save your story for the judge, and everyone lives. There are approximately 60 MILLION interactions per year between police and civilians (over 16). Obviously, lots of people are cooperating, but some CHOOSE TO NOT COOPERATE. I wonder why?

So, you think not cooperating is a capital offense and the police are justified to shoot someone in the back to prove it?

[billethkid]

Another result of the current events involving police is the police will just let some crimes play out instead of actionable prevention.

Criminals will become more emboldened knowing the police will not intervene.

New rules of engagement.......don't!!

[Indydealmaker]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

And Ted Williams, paid commentator by Fox, should be believed over all of those who see it differently...because?

As far as being "overcharged," we'll see...as that is also arguable.

I think that falls under the phrase..."throwing the book at them."

1. Brooks was shot in the back,TWICE, while running away and not being a deadly threat to the cop (not only is a taser not considered a "deadly" weapon, it was useless after being discharged twice).

2. Rolfe (the skinhead looking shooter cop) kicked Brooks...as Brooks was laying on the ground dying.

3. The other cop (Brosnan), stood on Brooks shoulder...as Brooks was laying on the ground dying.

4. Brosnan 'policing' the brass from the gun, before any attempt at rendering aid to Brooks...who was laying on the ground dying.

5. Rolfe crowing "I got him" after shooting Brooks (twice, in the back, as a reminder).

6. Brosnan is volunteering to be a state witness and step over that "thin blue line"...that has allowed all too many other LEO's in getting off.


Knowing all of these facts, I predict it won't even go to court...but a plea deal will be worked out.

Hopefully, if justice is served...Rolfe will serve a very long time in prison.

I also predict, that there will be a concerted effort to obfuscate/divert/distract/insert "whataboutism"...into this issue/thread.



But back to my question...has anyone (given the additional facts revealed today), changed from their original position?

If not...why not?

Diatribe from a person with history with law enforcement?