[Steve9930]

Bottom line: The DA is over charging this case. He is using it for his re-election. It will either be a hung jury or an Acquittal. Atlanta will burn. End of story. Time to move on.

[Mikenbats66]

Of you always know that every news story is totally accurate and all the facts are known ?
Then you must be
Living in the Disney land

[Scorpyo]

Originally Posted by Mikenbats66

Of you always know that every news story is totally accurate and all the facts are known ?
Then you must be
Living in the Disney land

You make this very difficult for me. One of my favorite sayings is: Who do you believe, me or your lying eyes? I can't use it now because you're right - don't believe your lying eyes. Oh my, now I'm really confused.

[Luisa]

Prosecutor in case on prior video said taser is deadly. Incapacitating officer gives assailant opportunity to use officers gun. Given the facts that the assailant had already assaulted officers and fired taser at officer showed a serious threat.

[Ramone]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

And Ted Williams, paid commentator by Fox, should be believed over all of those who see it differently...because?

As far as being "overcharged," we'll see...as that is also arguable.

I think that falls under the phrase..."throwing the book at them."

1. Brooks was shot in the back,TWICE, while running away and not being a deadly threat to the cop (not only is a taser not considered a "deadly" weapon, it was useless after being discharged twice).

2. Rolfe (the skinhead looking shooter cop) kicked Brooks...as Brooks was laying on the ground dying.

3. The other cop (Brosnan), stood on Brooks shoulder...as Brooks was laying on the ground dying.

4. Brosnan 'policing' the brass from the gun, before any attempt at rendering aid to Brooks...who was laying on the ground dying.

5. Rolfe crowing "I got him" after shooting Brooks (twice, in the back, as a reminder).

6. Brosnan is volunteering to be a state witness and step over that "thin blue line"...that has allowed all too many other LEO's in getting off.


Knowing all of these facts, I predict it won't even go to court...but a plea deal will be worked out.

Hopefully, if justice is served...Rolfe will serve a very long time in prison.

I also predict, that there will be a concerted effort to obfuscate/divert/distract/insert "whataboutism"...into this issue/thread.



But back to my question...has anyone (given the additional facts revealed today), changed from their original position?

If not...why not?

And the victim was aggressively fighting the cuffs when he is found way over the limit drunk, he punched one officer in face, he stole a stun gun and used it against those trying peacefully to cuff him. He was punching all the way till he ran off. When he turned with weapon pointing at police, he was shot, which is in police training and a split second decision. In that split second decision do police know if it is a stun gun or real one he had on him, police had not frisked him yet.

[EviesGP]

Like others on this forum, I have close relatives in Law Enforcement, and I also worked with them for 10yrs of my life. It's a tough life, and often times, thankless. I can't imagine how they're going to do their jobs after all this? Yes, there are some bad apples, but predominantly, those are rare. I worked with some that were not great cops, and thankfully no longer in the business. All these deaths are tragic, but the victims are hardly innocent lambs in these examples. These officers were called to the scene(s) of these situations. For some to say, just let them walk home, or whatever? Really? Perhaps when you're the victim of a crime, I'd like to see the look on your face, when the officer decides to just let the suspect walk? Like BTK said, just watch what happens if this thinking continues...Sad.
Oh, and I only have one child in this world, and it's a girl(wonderful young lady and mother now). To liken a scantily clad women getting raped, to a person being detained/arrested for committing a crime, is not at all related?!

[B767drvr]

Originally Posted by kenoc7

Do you understand why he resisted being handcuffed? He was turning his life around but was on probation and being arrested would send him back to jail. Why did they have to cuff him? He was cordial and was no threat to anyone, just let him walk home.

Since you asked...

"Turning his life around?" Driving while intoxicated and passing out while idling in a restaurant drive-thru is turning one's life around? In most, perhaps all states, drunk driving is a FELONY. Choosing to commit a felony is the opposite of "turning one's life around". We all make choices.

After testing over the limit for drunk driving, the officer made the decision to ARREST Mr. Brooks. For the officers' safety, I believe it's standard procedure to handcuff everyone while under arrest and being transported.

Let him go? Nope, that's not how it works when you've committed a felony. "Law enforcement" officers are dispatched to "enforce" the law and take the law breaker into custody.

[Dilligas]

Originally Posted by 44Apple

Seeing how many police officers have cut and run lately is something else. I don't know which is worse, those that quit individually or those who do it "en masse" to leverage their power. These people took an oath and the realization that they can't hack it when their communities really need them to step up, be responsive and accountable is pathetic. Almost makes me wonder if people are quitting because they realize they finally WILL be held accountable and they won't be able to get away with half the stuff they've done in the past.

I am sure the Atlanta Police are hiring.....are you interested? The Police officers are "... cut and run ... " lately because they are walking around with a target on their back and mass & social media blocking them from doing their jobs. Should this cop had fired at the running futive?.....maybe not.....they knew who he was, where he lived and had his car....so they could have gone to his home and arrested him there. They don't chase criminals who are speeding away in a car (to avoid other citizens being hurt from the chase) unless the criminal is a danger to society. This guy did not fit that description.... Yes he was vastly wrong to resist, fight, steal the taser, and run away....but could the cops have chased him down (remember he was drunk, so probably not to speedy) and subdued him with a better outcome? The jury will have to decide....but not the public through mass and social media.

[GoodLife]

I wonder what the slogan will be for this one.

"Hands up I've got your taser"

[Rosebud1949]

Well Atlanta burning will not be the first time

[Scorpyo]

Originally Posted by B767drvr

Since you asked...

"Turning his life around?" Driving while intoxicated and passing out while idling in a restaurant drive-thru is turning one's life around? In most, perhaps all states, drunk driving is a FELONY. Choosing to commit a felony is the opposite of "turning one's life around". We all make choices.

After testing over the limit for drunk driving, the officer made the decision to ARREST Mr. Brooks. For the officers' safety, I believe it's standard procedure to handcuff everyone while under arrest and being transported.

Let him go? Nope, that's not how it works when you've committed a felony. "Law enforcement" officers are dispatched to "enforce" the law and take the law breaker into custody.

I agree with everything you wrote except for the part where you said the officer “made” the decision to arrest. Actually it was not a decision, it was a requirement. He blew over the limit. If the cop let him go he could lose his job. What many people don’t understand is that there are hundreds of thousands of families that have suffered extreme grief due to losing a loved one due to impaired driving. So cops take DUIs very seriously. For those who may want to challenge my hundreds of thousands number do the math. 40,000 to 60,000 deaths per year. Duh, how many years to make hundreds? 50? 100? How about 2 to get over 100,000. BTW I am a certified DUI instructor, thus my passion.

[Buckeye Bob]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

And a whole lot of new, disgusting, info coming out...justifying those charges.

Not to even mention, the cop that didn't shoot is volunteering to testify...as a state witness.

I'm curious to know, if anyone who originally thought this killing was justified...have now changed their minds?

I'm going to go out on a limb here (just kidding, it's not really that hard to predict)...that very few will raise their hands.

I hope, and would be happy...if I'm wrong though.

More to come.

The charges are premature; a complete investigation hasn't been completed. The prosecutor involved is up for reelection.

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

Well, Ted Williams, a black, former D.C. homicide detective, and criminal attorney has already blasted the Atlanta Attorney General for overcharging the case. He thinks it will be difficult to convict the officer.

Often the most grievous charges are filed, but then at trial the jury is allowed multiple choices, varying degrees of guilt.

[ColdNoMore]

Atlanta Police Walk Out over Murder Charge as Mayor Admits Morale is ‘Down Tenfold’

“We concluded that Mr. Brooks was running away at the time that the shot was fired,” the district attorney said.

Howard also told reporters that the taser had already been discharged twice, rendering it unusable, and said the officers would have known that.

Howard added that Rolfe’s former partner Devin Brosnan, who was also at the scene where Brooks was shot, would testify against his former partner.

Howard said that after Brooks was shot in the back by Rolfe while fleeing arrest, Rolfe kicked him and Brosnan stood on his shoulders.

“There is an Atlanta policy that requires that the officers have to provide timely medical attention to Mr. Brooks, to anyone who is injured,” Howard said.

“But after Mr. Brooks was shot, for a period of two minutes and 12 seconds, there was no medical attention applied to Mr. Brooks.”

But Brosnan’s attorney Don Samuel denied Howard’s account of events, saying his client had not agreed to be the state’s witness and did nothing wrong.

And yes, if you take the time to read the entire article, you can see that it is balanced...and also includes criticism of the DA.


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[mikemalloy]

Many of the comments here remind me of the disgusting comments made by the Duke University faculty addressed at the lacrosse teams members who were railroaded by a corrupt prosecutor. They also mirror the attitude of thousands who wore "Hands up Don't shoot" shirts after Michael Brown was killed while, according to witnesses he tried to take the gun of police officer Darren Wilson. Things haven't changed in 2,000 years, the crowd still wants Barabbas.