[SHIBUMI]

It was reported that 1 in 31 newborns will have autism. Autism does have different levels, say 1-5 which it never had in the past, 50's or 60's. So diagnosis is much better now where it was minimal years ago. In the 70's it was 1 in 54.

So part of the reason is better diagnosis. However, what is around today that wasn't around in the 60's. You guessed it Marijuana!

41% of people 19-34 either use or have used Mary Jane. And now that it is a recreational accepted drug, pregnant women seem to think it isn't harmful to a fetus.
I still don't agree with calling it a fetus, it's a baby. Mary Jane just doesn't leave your system overnite.

I think the government will eventually find this out that it's not whats in the water that causes autism. It's in the smoke. Admitting it will be another issue so they don't disturb a multi million dollar business. DAH

[Whatnext]

However, what is around today that wasn't around in the 60's. You guessed it Marijuana!

You obviously weren't around for the '60's, or led a very sheltered life!

[Taltarzac725]

https://www.autismspeaks.org/autism-statistics-asd

It seems to be the identification of kids and others with autism has improved not really the prevalence of it.

[vintageogauge]

I went to school in the 50's and early 60's and there were several kids in most of the grades that today would be considered having Autism, some were verbal and some where not.

[Stu from NYC]

Or there are additives in our food we should not be eating

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Or there are additives in our food we should not be eating

That looks like bad logic to me . There have been additives in food for a long time .

Food Additives Are as Old as History

[lkagele]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

That looks like bad logic to me . There have been additives in food for a long time .

Food Additives Are as Old as History

Suggest you do a little further research than just a "news" article from a company that sells food additives and preservatives. It's not so much that we have additives in our foods but what type of additives are being used. Many are petroleum based. When's the last time your doctor said, " take a teaspoon of crude oil and call me in the morning"? The manner in which foods are processed is a problem too. Toxic chemicals are used and vitals nutrients lost.

Lots of health problems being discovered related to our food supply. No doubt other environmental factors are at play as well. It's time we impartially research causes and take steps to remedy the problems. No more letting big business profit at the expense of our health.

[HappyTraveler]

It seems to me the real 'tell' for much of this issue lies with the contingent of children that were not given any injections shortly after birth, or in the ensuing months, and developed normally as evidenced by parental experience and Doctor measurements/evaluations.

Then, a year or so after birth, took a cocktail of injections and their development trajectory very obviously changed - sometimes their personalities did too.. There are loads of situations like that and there is plenty to read about it. The dot connecting isn't difficult.

Btw, I've seen some wild things in my day but, toddlers or grade schoolers smoking pot is not one of them.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by HappyTraveler

It seems to me the real 'tell' for much of this issue lies with the contingent of children that were not given any injections shortly after birth, or in the ensuing months, and developed normally as evidenced by parental experience and Doctor measurements/evaluations.

Then, a year or so after birth, took a cocktail of injections and their development trajectory very obviously changed - sometimes their personalities did too.. There are loads of situations like that and there is plenty to read about it. The dot connecting isn't difficult.

Btw, I've seen some wild things in my day but, toddlers or grade schoolers smoking pot is not one of them.

There are a lot of correlation articles out there. I wish I could find the one I just read recently that discussed the rise in autism rates correlated with increased testing, social program funding, vaccinations, sex, race, wealth, and age. What I took away from it was autism rates increased when there were incentives to find more cases.

[Caymus]

I went to elementary school during the "Leave it to Beaver" days. Should I have noticed it in my classmates back then? Was lithium or similar drugs used to treat unruly children back then?

[HappyTraveler]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

There are a lot of correlation articles out there. I wish I could find the one I just read recently that discussed the rise in autism rates correlated with increased testing, social program funding, vaccinations, sex, race, wealth, and age. What I took away from it was autism rates increased when there were incentives to find more cases.

Yes, I have no doubt about that. Zero doubt. That the definition of autism has likely been broadened in the last several decades because there are drugs, therapies and other things to sell those "afflicted". I wish more people understood this.

It happens in many areas -- the expanded diagnosis of ADD/ADHD. Did you know, in many instances, the US Govt pays parents a monthly check if they put their kids on drugs for those conditions and others? It's been going on a long time and is well-known in the schools. The pop culture terms for them is: crazy checks ....and the kids ask each other if they're getting them. Astonishing.

The explosion of CPAP machine pushing is another annuity racket. Most people could likely address their sleep issues in other, more natural, and less costly ways.

[Taltarzac725]

What is the cause and effect? How long have we had food additives and how long have kids had autism? What has changed?

My Mom and my aunt both had a bad flu when me and my cousin Jeff were in the wombs. I had a lot of developmental problems and was in the short bus at times in Wisconsin. My cousin never had a teacher like Mrs. Barbara Mitchell that saw something in me and honed my talents. Basically by telling me I could do a lot better. Jeff died a paranoid schizophrenic a few years to in a facility in Illinois. I still owe Mrs. Mitchell so much . I earned 4 degrees. I have had problems here and there but keep fighting them . Sometimes it just takes someone to put the fight in them .


I do not see the labels people put on other people as so fixed. Of course there are a lot of limits with respect to opportunities given . Often based on your zip code . We have it pretty good in the Villages.


It would be interesting to see what kind of incidents there are of autism here in this zip code and how they are related to food in our grocery stores.

[SHIBUMI]

60's was introduction of Mary Jane, Beatles etc, 70's is when it exploded and sorry to say its second nature now..............glad I led a sheltered life....never tried it...its why they call it dope...just say no......why any woman would smoke it especially at early pregnancy is beyond this simple mind.

Originally Posted by Whatnext

However, what is around today that wasn't around in the 60's. You guessed it Marijuana!

You obviously weren't around for the '60's, or led a very sheltered life!

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by HappyTraveler

Yes, I have no doubt about that. Zero doubt. That the definition of autism has likely been broadened in the last several decades because there are drugs, therapies and other things to sell those "afflicted". I wish more people understood this.

It happens in many areas -- the expanded diagnosis of ADD/ADHD. Did you know, in many instances, the US Govt pays parents a monthly check if they put their kids on drugs for those conditions and others? It's been going on a long time and is well-known in the schools. The pop culture terms for them is: crazy checks ....and the kids ask each other if they're getting them. Astonishing.

The explosion of CPAP machine pushing is another annuity racket. Most people could likely address their sleep issues in other, more natural, and less costly ways.

There are no "autism drugs." Autism is not something that gets cured or treated. It gets managed. Some of the behavioral symptoms and traits can be treated with pharmaceuticals but they usually have unwanted side effects and are used only if the behaviors are dangerous (such as stimming by banging their head against the wall). Where are you even finding this nonsense you're spewing? Breitbart? whale.to? Some alt-med guy on youtube who will tell you 40 secrets that all doctors don't want you to know?

The "explosion of CPAP" machine use went up, when it was discovered that for many people, insomnia is caused by breathing cessation during sleep. Science evolves.

The only "astonishing" thing is that there are people who actually believe these "government paying parents monthly bonuses if they'll let them give their kids a diagnosis just so they can try and treat them" conspiracies.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by SHIBUMI

60's was introduction of Mary Jane, Beatles etc, 70's is when it exploded and sorry to say its second nature now..............glad I led a sheltered life....never tried it...its why they call it dope...just say no......why any woman would smoke it especially at early pregnancy is beyond this simple mind.

So I guess you never heard of the famous 1930's movie Reefer Madness hm? Or maybe you thought it was released in the 1970's only. Here's a little history for ya.

The widespread use of cannabis is nothing new. It wasn't really ever anything new. Indigenous peoples in climates where it grows, have been using it for centuries. The idea of it caught on in the States in the 1930's and by that time it was popular enough that some church organizations decided they needed to step in and "do" something about it. One of them sponsored the making of this film, which had a different name at the time and has had a few name changes over the years.

People have been smoking weed all this time, but it wasn't until the late 1950's and early 1960's that younger folks finally said, "y'know what? You older people need to lighten up and stop harshing our generation's collective mellow" and they started smoking in groups, in public - often as a protest. They'd BEEN smoking privately all along. So nothing changed other than their openness about it.

That's when it started getting bad press again, and Reefer Madness was RE-released in the 1970's and considered a satire, rather than a serious warning, because science evolved. Weed wasn't going to turn anyone into a psychotic axe-murderer like the movie suggested. It was considered trendy to get stoned with a bunch of friends to watch the movie, because it was so ridiculous that they could enjoy the heck out of it as a satirical comedy.

Should pregnant women use it? No, they shouldn't. But "pregnant women" isn't the singular exclusive criteria that determines whether or not something is safe. Pregnant women also shouldn't be taking viagra. And yet - hm.