Originally Posted by Swoop

Does anyone else find it strange that the CDC has no problem reporting the number of new Covid cases, but has given up reporting the number of breakthrough cases…

And no mention of cases at the southern border. iCE estimates 1.7 million illegal aliens will cross the southern border this year which is more than the state of Vermont. And Fauci says it’s not his problem.

[heenables]

Originally Posted by HRDave

“274 (79%) vaccinated patients with breakthrough infection were symptomatic. Among five COVID-19 patients who were hospitalized, four were fully vaccinated; no deaths were reported. “ in the article.

Sounds like the vaccine is doing exactly what it is designed to do.

It was designed to have major breakthrough and the same death rate as the unvaccinated? Sounds reasonable... Now the comments of well there will be clusters etc. It's one of the only studies that shows the facts as they really are and I don't think many people here want to hear how many people are vulnerable to breakthrough after being vaccinated. I think the more major point of this study is stop pointing fingers at the unvaccinated with no proof and be concerned about yourself. You don't need to worry about me because I'm surely not worried about you. Put your mask on and hide in your home because there is a miniscule chance that either jabbed or not you will die.

[Mrodmh]

74% of COVID-19 cases in Massachusetts outbreak involved fully vaccinated people, CDC says

[Irishmen]

Originally Posted by Bay Kid

Our leaders are such hypocrites. Tell us to go sit in our house as they send millions of untested illegals to be spread throughout our country, all for their gain. Trust has gone.

This. Feel bad for millions of Americans who are starting to be evicted today because the govt, not the virus, shut our economy down while they sip on Margaritas in their mountain retreats.

[Bonnevie]

I'm so glad I watch Fox News occasionally so I can keep up with the latest pivots....I see the constant pivoting to immigration and I can almost hear Tucker, or Laura, or Sean.....it is not Fauci's job to handle immigration...it's his job to study the virus and report, BASED ON FACTS, his recommendations. Yes, immigration is a problem but it is separate from the rest of the country's problem with the virus. Florida and all the counties in the Villages have very high positivity rates. That is the problem that needs to be addressed. Although, since people are so upset about immigration, I can't help but notice all the Hispanics doing the roof replacements in our neighborhood for all the law and order conservatives basically defrauding their insurance companies by claiming "storm damage" on 15 year old roofs. Show me an American who wants to replace a roof when the feels like temperature is 104? so much hypocrisy. They may be here legally or not, but they are doing work no American wants to do and since it's benefiting the "Build the Wall" people then it's ok.

[roscoguy]

Originally Posted by HRDave

On July 19th CDC reported that out of approximately 161 million vaccinated individuals in the US only 5900+ breakthrough cases reported. That’s .0037%. Only 19% of those died. That’s roughly 1200 people out of 161,000,000 vaccinated.

No matter how many times you repeat it, this is still misinformation. Here's what the CDC actually says: "As of July 26, 2021, more than 163 million people in the United States had been fully vaccinated against COVID-19.
During the same time, CDC received reports from 49 U.S. states and territories of 6,587 patients with COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough infection who were hospitalized or died." COVID-19 Breakthrough Case Investigations and Reporting | CDC

They quit trying to count total breakthrough cases in April.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by heenables

It was designed to have major breakthrough and the same death rate as the unvaccinated? Sounds reasonable... Now the comments of well there will be clusters etc. It's one of the only studies that shows the facts as they really are and I don't think many people here want to hear how many people are vulnerable to breakthrough after being vaccinated. I think the more major point of this study is stop pointing fingers at the unvaccinated with no proof and be concerned about yourself. You don't need to worry about me because I'm surely not worried about you. Put your mask on and hide in your home because there is a miniscule chance that either jabbed or not you will die.

Good morning to you too, neighbor and friend. Who ****ed in your Wheaties?

[roscoguy]

Originally Posted by John41

And no mention of cases at the southern border. iCE estimates 1.7 million illegal aliens will cross the southern border this year which is more than the state of Vermont. And Fauci says it’s not his problem.

Can you post a link to support this? The only things I could find say that ICE expects approximately 1.7m apprehensions or attempted illegal crossings in 2021. Also, while there are certainly many unvaccinated among these attempted illegal immigrants, there are over 150 million U.S. residents who are also unvaccinated, many by their own choice. Statistically speaking, who is the more likely culprit in spreading the virus?

[PugMom]

Originally Posted by Bonnevie

so here is my original that you find so oblique. cue all the CDC and Fauci hating replies. no matter what the facts, many choose not to believe them. people fail to understand that a virus changes....so what was said a month ago may not be the same as today. the only way to get rid of it is to stop providing hosts.

I point out there will be many replies expressing hatred of Fauci and CDC. which happened. many replies indicate that there are some people who won't believe the facts. check. viruses mutate all the time and the only way to ultimately stop it is to starve it of hosts.

I still fail to see what is confusing or oblique about that. but ok, I'll let you get the last word. fire away.

i can see your point, however, it's not that we HATE fauci. since his hacked emails were released, we know the extent of his truths & falsehoods. how can i possibly trust someone who has his own interests in mind? i don't come into things with preconceived notions, its the persons' behavior that leads me to suspicion

[Irishmen]

Originally Posted by Jerry Leinsing

You are one ignoramus that can afford to get the virus. Last week had 4 friends from village club PREVIOUSLY VACCINATED that came down with covid. They were around me quite a while that day. I had a mask. I was vaccinated and was wearing a mask. I am ok, they are not.
The virus is a cool way of culling the herd of dim witted decision makers.
Get a good photo of yourself for the next of kin.

You cannot get the virus if you have been vaccinated. The ruling class said so.

[PugMom]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Global warming???? OMG, what a joke!!!!
What do you think---they come here because we have better air conditioners?????

Maybe, just maybe it's all the "free stuff" we hand them
Maybe, just maybe it's because it is far better to be "poor" here than where they come from.

Meanwhile , some people who do not understand science or paleoclimatology continue to buy into this giant (and very expensive) hoax of global warming that certain segments want to shove down our throats.

[PugMom]

Originally Posted by HRDave

.0037% Basically zero percent.
1194 deaths in breakthrough cases out of 161 million vaccinated people = .00071%.
How close to zero do you need??

So it’s growing. It’s gonna take a lot of growing before it’s a significant number.
It’s GOT to burn through the unvaccinated population before it dies down. You can’t force those people to get vaccinated or you’re going to have a much larger problem than COVID-19 on your hands. The American people will not be tolerant of that.

CDC recently updated estimated infection fatality rates for COVID. Here are the updated survival rates by age group:

0-19: 99.997%
20-49: 99.98%
50-69: 99.5%
70+: 94.6%

I’m not going to live in fear. It’s absolutely ridiculous. Let the unvaccinated make their choice.
If you’re vaccinated you have nothing to fear, but fear itself!
Hey! I’ve heard that somewhere before! 😎

thank you for the open-minded approach!

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Irishmen

Same govt who closed churches and small business only to let pot shops and strip clubs stay open. Same gov't who will be kicking out millions of people from their homes starting this weekend. You see we are the stupid people who hate science because we refuse to trust the people who have spent the last 18 months lying to us. Our ruling class is utterly corrupt and dishonest.

This post is all over the place. In Florida, Churches were not closed by any government directive, but many were closed out of an abundance of caution.

People may have lost their jobs and were unable to make their bills due to the pandemic and the falling employment for a variety of connected reasons. I truly thought I saw people who were elected TRYING to keep things afloat financially, but the ultimate financial security rests often with small and large decisions that people make daily. I was taught, being a child of parents who lived through the depression, that no matter how little you have, to save some of it for VERY hard times and reuse, recycle and repurpose so that someday you and your children will not be faced with eviction and hunger. Buy or rent a smaller home and put some in the bank. I know that that does not cover all evictions, but it does cover some.

We can't get carried away in blanket anger. We can't blame others for things we could prevent.

We can't throw the baby out with the bath water.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by HRDave

.0037% Basically zero percent.
1194 deaths in breakthrough cases out of 161 million vaccinated people = .00071%.
How close to zero do you need??

So it’s growing. It’s gonna take a lot of growing before it’s a significant number.
It’s GOT to burn through the unvaccinated population before it dies down. You can’t force those people to get vaccinated or you’re going to have a much larger problem than COVID-19 on your hands. The American people will not be tolerant of that.

CDC recently updated estimated infection fatality rates for COVID. Here are the updated survival rates by age group:

0-19: 99.997%
20-49: 99.98%
50-69: 99.5%
70+: 94.6%

I’m not going to live in fear. It’s absolutely ridiculous. Let the unvaccinated make their choice.
If you’re vaccinated you have nothing to fear, but fear itself!
Hey! I’ve heard that somewhere before! 😎

Vaccine mandates eradicated smallpox. Americans DID put up with it then. What's changed?

The mindset of people who CAN vaccinate, refusing to vaccinate is foreign to me. That, to me, is the mindset of some unaware creature who is not self-realized, who doesn't understand its place in the world, that is not a sentient being at all. The one who says "we don't know if it's safe" is the one who lives under a rock and really should just stay under that rock until the vaccine blows over, to keep them from causing harm to anyone else.

The ones who say "well YOU are vaccinated, so I don't have to be" are the ones that annoy me the worst. They will rant and rave and rail against "socialism" but demand that everyone else keep them safe, as an entitlement, so they don't have to take pro-active measures to keep themselves safe. And of course they aren't required to help keep anyone else safe.

The only people who should not WANT to vaccinate, are people who are not eligible to vaccinate. Medically unable to handle it, and kids under 12. Everyone else should be lining up and eagerly taking the "jab," as the anti-vaxxer conspiracy theorists call it.

[Irishmen]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

This post is all over the place. In Florida, Churches were not closed by any government directive, but many were closed out of an abundance of caution.

Originally Posted by graciegirl

People may have lost their jobs and were unable to make their bills due to the pandemic and the falling employment for a variety of connected reasons. I truly thought I saw people who were elected TRYING to keep things afloat financially, but the ultimate financial security rests often with small and large decisions that people make daily. I was taught, being a child of parents who lived through the depression, that no matter how little you have, to save some of it for VERY hard times and reuse, recycle and repurpose so that someday you and your children will not be faced with eviction and hunger. Buy or rent a smaller home and put some in the bank. I know that that does not cover all evictions, but it does cover some.

We can't get carried away in blanket anger. We can't blame others for things we could prevent.

We can't throw the baby out with the bath water.

Charges dropped against Tampa pastor who held services during stay-at-home order