[Lindsyburnsy]

Get vaccinated!

[HRDave]

Originally Posted by Velvet

Only 5900 hospitalized … so far… and increasing. As in Star Wars, “May the Force be with you.”

Florida 17,589 cases July 29/21 NYT

.0037% Basically zero percent.
1194 deaths in breakthrough cases out of 161 million vaccinated people = .00071%.
How close to zero do you need??

So it’s growing. It’s gonna take a lot of growing before it’s a significant number.
It’s GOT to burn through the unvaccinated population before it dies down. You can’t force those people to get vaccinated or you’re going to have a much larger problem than COVID-19 on your hands. The American people will not be tolerant of that.

CDC recently updated estimated infection fatality rates for COVID. Here are the updated survival rates by age group:

0-19: 99.997%
20-49: 99.98%
50-69: 99.5%
70+: 94.6%

I’m not going to live in fear. It’s absolutely ridiculous. Let the unvaccinated make their choice.
If you’re vaccinated you have nothing to fear, but fear itself!
Hey! I’ve heard that somewhere before! 😎

[HRDave]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Agree that I have nothing to worry about because I'm vaccinated. I truly do believe that.

Agree I have extremely little chance of having a breakthrough case. I truly do believe that.

Agree. I do not need to mask up anywhere. I truly do believe that because anyone who is either not vaccinated for what ever their reason is, THEY can protect themselves with an N95 or equivalent mask when in public indoor spaces. Don't expect me to mask up forever to protect them.

Disagree that this pandemic surge is the un-vaccinated's problem. I truly believe this pandemic is everyone's problem for one reason and one reason only. The possibility of a variant that evades our current vaccines is very concerning. I can not even wrap my head around the logistics of what that could possibly mean for us.

We need more people to get themselves vaccinated to lessen the amount of hosts this virus need to perpetuate this pandemic. We certainly do not need to deal with any more variants, especially a variant that totally evades our vaccines.

Thanks, but the virus is with us forever now. Just like Influenza & The Common Cold. It’s NOT going away. It will mutate until some medical miracle comes along & totally eradicated it. Corona viruses are programmed to mutate to survive. Just pray that the next virus that comes along isn’t more deadly. COVID-19 is nothing compared to what could be.
THAT’S what you need to fear.

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by HRDave

Thanks, but the virus is with us forever now. Just like Influenza & The Common Cold. It’s NOT going away. It will mutate until some medical miracle comes along & totally eradicated it. Corona viruses are programmed to mutate to survive. Just pray that the next virus that comes along isn’t more deadly. COVID-19 is nothing compared to what could be.
THAT’S what you need to fear.

Like the two prior Covid viruses, MERS & SARS…
Do a little research before presenting your “feelings” as facts…

[HRDave]

Originally Posted by Swoop

Like the two prior Covid viruses, MERS & SARS…
Do a little research before presenting your “feelings” as facts…

Those are still with us!

[HRDave]

COVID-19 is actually SARS-CoV-2

[heenables]

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documen...ly-30-2021.pdf

Facts are facts... One could get upset with all the vaccinated spreading the virus. I personally don't care but if you think it's an unvaccinated spread well maybe you should think again.

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by HRDave

Those are still with us!

Again, do a little research. There hasn’t been a case of SARS since 2004…

[HRDave]

It’s still lurking 👀.
2012
October 5: The National Select Agent Registry Program declared SARS-coronavirus a select agent. A select agent is a bacterium, virus or toxin that has the potential to pose a severe threat to public health and safety.

[HRDave]

Originally Posted by heenables

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documen...ly-30-2021.pdf

Facts are facts... One could get upset with all the vaccinated spreading the virus. I personally don't care but if you think it's an unvaccinated spread well maybe you should think again.

We’re going to see clusters like that, but how many hospitalizations or fatalities came from that event?

[HRDave]

Originally Posted by HRDave

It’s still lurking 👀.
2012
October 5: The National Select Agent Registry Program declared SARS-coronavirus a select agent. A select agent is a bacterium, virus or toxin that has the potential to pose a severe threat to public health and safety.

“274 (79%) vaccinated patients with breakthrough infection were symptomatic. Among five COVID-19 patients who were hospitalized, four were fully vaccinated; no deaths were reported. “

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by HRDave

You can’t force those people to get vaccinated or you’re going to have a much larger problem than COVID-19 on your hands. The American people will not be tolerant of that.

It is starting already.....................

Disney and Walmart mandates vaccines for all corporate employees - CNN

News Releases - Office of Public and Intergovernmental Affairs

[heenables]

Originally Posted by HRDave

We’re going to see clusters like that, but how many hospitalizations or fatalities came from that event?

It's in the article.

[HRDave]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

It is starting already.....................

Disney and Walmart mandates vaccines for all corporate employees - CNN

News Releases - Office of Public and Intergovernmental Affairs

There will be lawsuits. My experience in Healthcare HR showed that the employer will have to prove a valid reason for compelling employees to submit to a vaccine that hasn’t been approved by the FDA yet. We tried to force hospital employees to take the Flu vaccine in Illinois & were overruled by a judge who said as long as there was an alternative way to protect patients from infection, ie an N-95 Mask, we could not use vaccination as a condition of employment.
That was with an approved vaccine.
We’ll see how that pans out in today’s world.

[HRDave]

Originally Posted by heenables

It's in the article.

“274 (79%) vaccinated patients with breakthrough infection were symptomatic. Among five COVID-19 patients who were hospitalized, four were fully vaccinated; no deaths were reported. “ in the article.

Sounds like the vaccine is doing exactly what it is designed to do.