[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

Here's a solution, quit forcing kids to get up at 4am and carry 100lbs of books back and forth to school. Start school at a reasonable hour. Then they don't have to walk anywhere in the dark.

That makes just too much sense! Why hasn't that idea been mulled over by the school boards and whoever else makes those decisions?

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by drcar

This is so far off base, the amount of sunlight will not change for the day. Same amount of sun, just a different setting on the clock!

I got snookered into thinking that was true. I was set straight about it and glad to hear it was not true.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by CFrance

I love your description of the change of seasons.

His/her writing style is beautiful and very wistful. Loved reading it.

[midiwiz]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

Well, for me at least there is GOOD news!

The Senate has passed legislation making DST permanent in 2023! Next up the House has to pass it, then the President signs it and we can all stop suffering ...

At least that is my so humble opinion.

and finally Rubio does something .......

[NoMo50]

Originally Posted by drcar

According to the logic you are using, it would seem that we would hear about a lot of children getting killed in Arizona since they have been on DST for years. Also back in 1973 we did not have the high quality head lights. Accidents will still happen, but not just because of the change in time.

Almost correct. Arizona does not participate in DST. They stay on Mountain Standard Time year round, with the exception of the Navajo Nation, which does do DST.

[Byte1]

Standard or DST doesn't matter to me and won't effect my life whatsoever. The only difference to me would be keeping it permanent would alleviate my having to change a bunch of clocks in the house. I empathize with others that might be affected by more or less light at a given time related to leaving or returning home from work or school.
If I had a vote on the matter, I would vote to keep one or the other permanent, period. Now, pardon me while I go out to the garage and get my ladder so that I can reach the kitchen wall clock to change it to reflect the DST change once again. For some reason, certain persons un-named can't simply read the microwave or stove clock and insist on having a larger, easier clock for ailing senior eyesight. On a positive note, I will change the battery too, so that I won't have to climb up there a third time during the year instead of just two times for the periodic time change.

[PaulinTV]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

You are right, I found this:

"Congress had voted on December 14, 1973, to put the US on daylight saving time for two years. President Nixon signed the bill the next day. The US had gone to permanent daylight saving time before, during World War II. Then, too, the measure was enacted to save fuel. "

Apparently everyone wanted it, and then hated it.

Nixon’s Daylight Savings Time Still Controversial After 44 Years

A couple notes from the article:
The most important analysis regarding the effectiveness of DST regarding energy use is a 2008 National Bureau of Economic Research study that found “contrary to the policy’s intent — DST increases residential electricity demand” by about 1 percent. Although DST reduced demand for lighting, demand for heating and cooling dramatically increased.

Many health and safety experts also have a negative opinion of Daylight Savings Time. According to the “Fatal Accident Reporting System,” there is a 17 percent increase in traffic fatalities on the Monday after the shift and fatal motor vehicle accidents remained elevated for the first six days after the clocks spring ahead. A recent medical study indicates that DST time change may also increase the risk of stroke due to sleep disturbances.

[srswans]

Originally Posted by Mleeja

This is a step in the right direction, but let’s move the clocks back in November and just leave them there. Everything will be great with “year round dst” until a couple of kids are killed at the bus stops in January.

Schools will adjust their schedules once the time-change madness stops.

[drcar]

Originally Posted by NoMo50

Almost correct. Arizona does not participate in DST. They stay on Mountain Standard Time year round, with the exception of the Navajo Nation, which does do DST.

Thank you for the correction

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

Just can't avoid some political statement can we.

It was a fun little nonsense post, and someone had to bring in politics.

Oh well...

So, didn’t rub you the right (left) way.

[nn0wheremann]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

We agree on the reflective vests. I really don't care who purchases the vests, just that the kids must wear them.

I can see it now, massive nasty protests about “vested interests” and their mandates trampling on parental rights to dress their children in stealth clothing. Gov. DeBozo and the clowns will have a field day!

[OhioBuckeye]

Personally I don’t care what time frame we use. My routine is the same everyday no matter what time we use. Don’t know why we care what we use except maybe the farmers like spring ahead time. Don’t get it!

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by PaulinTV

Nixon’s Daylight Savings Time Still Controversial After 44 Years

A couple notes from the article:
The most important analysis regarding the effectiveness of DST regarding energy use is a 2008 National Bureau of Economic Research study that found “contrary to the policy’s intent — DST increases residential electricity demand” by about 1 percent. Although DST reduced demand for lighting, demand for heating and cooling dramatically increased.

Many health and safety experts also have a negative opinion of Daylight Savings Time. According to the “Fatal Accident Reporting System,” there is a 17 percent increase in traffic fatalities on the Monday after the shift and fatal motor vehicle accidents remained elevated for the first six days after the clocks spring ahead. A recent medical study indicates that DST time change may also increase the risk of stroke due to sleep disturbances.

You do know that studies can be slanted anyway they want them to slant, don’t you? All of this is ridiculous when you think of all the time changes people go through constantly.

I think the biggest complaintants are old people who don’t want to mess with clocks and don’t want to get up early and others who don’t deal well with any change.

[Keefelane66]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

Well, for me at least there is GOOD news!

The Senate has passed legislation making DST permanent in 2023! Next up the House has to pass it, then the President signs it and we can all stop suffering ...

At least that is my so humble opinion.

But it’s much to hard to take a vote on LOWERING PRESCRIPTION DRUGS. DST doesn’t even have Lobbyist’s

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye

Personally I don’t care what time frame we use. My routine is the same everyday no matter what time we use. Don’t know why we care what we use except maybe the farmers like spring ahead time. Don’t get it!

That business about the farmers lobbying for DST is actually a misnomer. Per Google........

Myth: Daylight Saving Time was Created to Benefit Farmers
The truth of the matter is the agriculture industry lobbied against daylight saving time in 1919. Some believe it was then that farmers became associated with daylight saving time, even though they were only involved because they were against it.Nov 5, 2021