[ThomasMur]

He’s in jail for the (crimes) he committed. Hopefully he will learn from this and be a better person when he gets out.

[jmpalladino]

Originally Posted by Kenswing

I’d be very surprised if he got much time if any. Probably community service and probation.

This whole thing would have been a big nothingburger if he would have simply admitted that he made a mistake by secretly talking about county business. But instead he decided to lie under oath. That has proven to be a stupid decision.

You should look up facts before responding, but why if one thinks facts do not matter? He was taken into custody after the verdict on Friday and will not be sentenced for 3 weeks. Thus he is incarcerated now, awaiting his sentence! That is just ridiculous!

[jmpalladino]

Originally Posted by Kenswing

What punishment? He hasn’t even been sentenced yet.

He is in jail pending sentencing which has been scheduled for 3 weeks. Get the facts!

[Villagesgal]

The man knowingly broke the law, then lied about it. Laws are for all and are to be upheld. Surely some of these posters are not suggesting that because he's a nice guy he should be allowed to break the law. He knew what he was doing was illegal, he had been warned and continued breaking the law anyway. He was caught, he tried to lie his way out of it and then admitted it. He is a criminal, he was convicted by a jury. He broke the law and was caught. Yes, as some pointed out, many break the law, that is true, they are still criminals, they just haven't been caught yet.
He broke the law, he was caught breaking the law, he was convicted of breaking the law, that's how it works. Nice guy or not.

[Kenswing]

Originally Posted by jmpalladino

He is in jail pending sentencing which has been scheduled for 3 weeks. Get the facts!

Why don’t you get the facts. At least read the entire thread before making yourself look more stupid. I posted that I was surprised that they held him until sentencing. He’s a nonviolent offender. But being held over isn’t punishment. It might feel like it but it’s just part of the procedure. I feel he should have been released pending sentencing. But I’m not the judge. Maybe the judge is holding him so when he does sentence him he’ll just get time served.

[merrymini]

It is always the lie to cover up that gets you in trouble. These guys were in over their heads and were naive to think they could do the things they promised. That being said, I have no dog in this fight, prison time for this would be absolutely uncalled for.

[PJackpot]

Originally Posted by Kenswing

I’d be very surprised if he got much time if any. Probably community service and probation.

This whole thing would have been a big nothingburger if he would have simply admitted that he made a mistake by secretly talking about county business. But instead he decided to lie under oath. That has proven to be a stupid decision.

I don't get this whole not being able to talk about county business thing. Congress survives on that idea. Not only that, they are always arm twisting and threatening each other over congressional issues, but a county commissioner cannot? WTF?

[Kenswing]

Originally Posted by PJackpot

I don't get this whole not being able to talk about county business thing. Congress survives on that idea. Not only that, they are always arm twisting and threatening each other over congressional issues, but a county commissioner cannot? WTF?

Don’t ask me. I didn’t make the law. I didn’t break the law. It’s the responsibility of the people in office to understand the law and not break it.

Again, this isn’t really even about breaking the Sunshine Law. It’s about committing perjury. He was convicted of perjury not for breaking the Sunshine Law.

[Dotgipe]

Prison is for dangerous offenders convicted of murder, rape or child molestation. Intelligent people can’t come up with better punishments??? It costs too much to put these people in prison

[quietpine]

Liars lie. This one got caught. That’s all we need to know about his character.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Dotgipe

Prison is for dangerous offenders convicted of murder, rape or child molestation. Intelligent people can’t come up with better punishments??? It costs too much to put these people in prison

So "lesser" criminal (drug dealers, burglars, assaulters, etc.) should be out on the streets among us???? Personally, I could easily come up with a lot more prison space with a lot less cost. Barracks, triple razor wire fence, machine gun towers, all surrounded by a minefield and a red line with a simple sign "Ye who enter here will die". Some farm implements, some seed, and a "cooler" for all the Steve McQueen wannabees. Simple, effective, and cheap. And I bet the crime rate would plummet as well.

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

So "lesser" criminal (drug dealers, burglars, assaulters, etc.) should be out on the streets among us???? Personally, I could easily come up with a lot more prison space with a lot less cost. Barracks, triple razor wire fence, machine gun towers, all surrounded by a minefield and a red line with a simple sign "Ye who enter here will die". Some farm implements, some seed, and a "cooler" for all the Steve McQueen wannabees. Simple, effective, and cheap. And I bet the crime rate would plummet as well.

Two suggestions (only partially tongue-in-cheek…)

1. For all those convicts wanting “early release”, all prison cells should come equipped with a curtained-off area, a strong iron bar, and a noose.

2. For lesser crimes and felonies, offer the convict a choice between jail/prison time, or public flogging.

[jjombrello]

Are you serious? This guy lied under oath, not once but twice, and then tried to explain away his untruths. He broke the law and deserves to be punished. His partner in crime confessed and took the plea. He was offered the same deal and refused it. White collar crime is no different than other forms and a jury of his peers concluded he was guilty of lying. Crime is crime, or don't you believe that misdeeds should be prosecuted? This country is based on upholding its laws and without that we have anarchy, no matter who commits the crime.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI

Absolutely the most brilliant idea I've ever heard of, eliminate the Sunshine Laws. Yeah!!! Let the politicians get behind closed doors and work out all kinds of back room deals that financially/politically benefit them and screw the taxpayers. I've got a news flash, politicians don't do anything behind closed doors that benefits the public. The only politician you can trust is the one you have with your gun to his head.

i can agree with the 1st couple of sentences, but not the last. For one thing, a GENERALIZATION that ALL (100%) politicians are not trustworthy.......essentially makes no sense. All people that vote are picking SOME trustworthy politicians. Then, invoking the word "gun" seems too over the top. Then, finally. use of the word "HIS", which could have been "their" because it is IMPORTANT to remember that women can ALSO become politicians.

This might seem like "nitpicking" to some, but words and language are powerful and show the attitudes of the writer.

[Bellavita]

Its a sad day in the villages when you can hit two people on a bicycles nearly kill them run from the crime and still not be in jail, When poor Orin made a phone call and is in jail.

A shot from over the bow to anyone who wants to run for public office and not tote the company line. Sure didn't feel like the "Friendliest Hometown".

Not only do they put him in jail until sentencing like a real criminal. wow just wow.

All of us should be outraged at the unbalance of the scales of justice.

Originally Posted by tophcfa

Now that Oren Miller is a convicted felon and is off the streets of the Villages does anyone feel safer? Let’s see, a harmless senior citizen whose trivial crime was misremembering (that’s a Roger Clemens term) the details of some telephone conversations is now behind bars. Meanwhile, wife beaters, drug dealers, drunken drivers, golf cart thieves, and many other dangerous criminals we should all be afraid of are walking around freely on our streets.

Something is seriously wrong with this picture. The moral of the story is that it’s not the crime one commits, it’s the people in high places that one rubs the wrong way that really matters.