[Velvet]

I look at the absolute positive numbers, but then I also look at rolling averages, 3 days and 7 days to see the trend - that corrects for institutions not reporting on time.

[Gulfcoast]

Originally Posted by Velvet

From what I understand the numbers are by individuals so if one tests several times, they are considered as one case. They are not reporting on the number of tests done (which is separate report) but on the number of positive cases (people).

I've heard posters mention that they have tested multiple times using different testing sites each time they go. I don't know if that would be counted as one individual being tested or 3 separate tests entirely.

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by Gulfcoast

I've heard posters mention that they have tested multiple times using different testing sites each time they go. I don't know if that would be counted as one individual being tested or 3 separate tests entirely.

3 separate test results, see my previous post.

[Gulfcoast]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

3 separate test results, see my previous post.

That is what I suspected. Your posts have been very informative, btw. It's nice to see the numbers so clearly laid out.

[Hoosierb4]

From the Florida state report website:

"The percent of positive results ranged from 11.25% to 18.35% over the past 2 weeks and was 11.25% yesterday

This percent is the number of people who test PCR- or antigen-positive for the first time divided by all the people tested that day, excluding people who have previously tested positive."

This seems to indicate that they don't double-count the positives when calculating what they call percent positivity.

I would be interested in any data that's available on how many people don't go through the hassle of getting tested? The news said people are lining up in Orange county at 3am in their cars. Same in Texas. If I was sick but not dying, I wouldn't go through that kind of misery. 5 plus hours in your car in a bad neighborhood. Add heat and humidity with no bathroom and forget it.

I also heard a rumor that a nurse swabbed 4 test in water or something and all 4 test came back positive. I don't remember it very well so it's not a fact by any means.

I assume once school starts we'll see another spike and then the flu season after that.

I know a pregnant nurse and a school teacher and both are very worried about the infection rate. If someone is playing games with these numbers I hope they get busted because that's a special kind of evil.

[Paporter]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

The percent of positive covid 19 tests for florida has been over 10% for last two weeks with a high 18% on July 8 and a low of 11% yesterday, July 11.

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There is no doubt we have a lot of new cases here. However, the percent positive rate is an important barometer to judge the trends.

In the last few days people who scour the Florida coronavirus websites have noticed something peculiar.

Yesterday, July 11, 333 Florida labs reported 100% positivity on all their tests, which amounts to 3528 positives reported to the state with zero negatives. Another 31 labs reported 90-99% positive tests for a total of 1767 positives and very few negatives. Thats about 50% of all positives for the day. These results are not plausible when you have a statewide average of 10-15% positivity. These results skew the positive rate upward by several percentage points. Something is wrong with their reporting system if so many labs are not reporting their negative test results.

Hopefully some sharp reporters will get on this and try to find out what is happening.

Partial list:

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I agree the numbers aren’t adding up. That’s why I’ve been asking to see the number of neg test vs pos tests. Unless, you know the number of neg tests., verses positive tests, the numbers will not be accurate.

[Boston1945]

WOW!! Did not know we have so many experts here in Villages who know all about how the numbers get reported.Reading most of the post here, I think most of the folks here think the whole thing is BULL.Just look at the number of folks who do not wear a mask.

[Marty94]

My sister is a DNP. On Friday, we learned that a patient she treated was Covid positive. The same day, a coworker’s granddaughter also tested positive. The potential existed for two exposures. So, she was tested. The results will be back today if Covid positive and a week if negative. If positive, she will be quarantined and tested every 72 hours until she gets a negative result before being able to resume duties at the hospital. The frustrating thing for the medical staff is that they are tested by the state like everyone else which takes them out of service for several days. To be eligible for the 90 minute test, you must be a patient that needs to be admitted to a hospital or a discharged patient that is returning to a group home setting such as a nursing home. The reason health care workers do not have priority is because there are simply not enough of these tests. Of her nursing staff, which is responsible for pre-op, 4 of 8 called in sick as they were waiting on test results. This is the reality.

So, to add to this discussion... I don’t know about the general population, but healthcare workers must be tested multiple times if found positive. Some states may require tests more frequently or perhaps they have access to the 90 minute test. What my sister has found though is that many people are testing positive for having had Covid without symptoms or symptoms so mild they didn’t associate it with Covid and these numbers are exponentially increasing.

[Nolesman74]

Here is a fact....130,000 dead. That's something that should open everyone's eyes. The virus is real..not a hoax.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Nolesman74

Here is a fact....130,000 dead. That's something that should open everyone's eyes. The virus is real..not a hoax.

Are you sure? How many times did they die?

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by Boston1945

WOW!! Did not know we have so many experts here in Villages who know all about how the numbers get reported.Reading most of the post here, I think most of the folks here think the whole thing is BULL.Just look at the number of folks who do not wear a mask.

I was in Sam's Club yesterday and very few people were not wearing a mask. I'd say the same holds true for Winn Dixie and Publix where I have been over the past week.

As I look around I see the vast majority of people wearing masks inside of stores.

[Bay Kid]

Really can't believe anything reported by the news. They have an agenda.

[Mohawksin]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Starting to think that if you ask 10 scientists you might get 11 answers.

More than 11 answers if you ask them again next month.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by Nolesman74

Here is a fact....130,000 dead. That's something that should open everyone's eyes. The virus is real..not a hoax.

Even that number is being questioned. I've read that everyone who dies while they have the virus is being counted as a Covid-19 death regardless of the cause of death. A young person that has Covid and was experiencing mild symptoms gets killed in a car accident is counted as a Covid death.

I think that this pandemic is real and very serious, but there are a lot of questions about how a lot of the numbers are calculated.

There is also the problem of politics becoming involved. It is thought to be politically advantageous for some that the numbers are higher, while other's are trying to make it seem like it's not that much of a problem.

I have an uncle that died a few months ago. He went into the hospital for one thing. While he was in rehab, he fell and broke his hip. He evidently developed a mild case of Covid and died a few days later. No autopsy was done but e is listed as a Covid death.