[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Velvet

Whatever language we use to describe Floyd, he was a person and as a person he had rights and one of them was not to be suffocated.

Nobody is saying that he was not murdered, it was a tragedy and the murderer should be punished.

Sad that his death was used as an excuse to loot and destroy

[DeanFL]

...Not to minimize GF's death at the hands of police but>>>

wonder if any of the lberal Press has mentioned THIS?>>>>>>


By Robert Gearty | Fox News

CHICAGO'S CRIME WAVEPublished 6 hours ago
Chicago sees its deadliest day in 60 years with 18 murders in 24 hours: report

Bloody Chicago recorded 18 murders on May 31, making it the city’s deadliest day in 60 years.

The dubious milestone was reached on a day Chicago was roiled by another round of protests and looting following the Memorial Day death of George Floyd in police custody in Minneapolis.

The 18 deaths tallied by the University of Chicago Crime Lab made May 31, 2020 the single-most violent day in six decades, the Chicago Sun-Times reported Monday. The Crime Lab numbers go back only to 1961.

Chicago sees its deadliest day in 60 years with 18 murders in 24 hours: report | Fox News

[Steve9930]

George Floyd died because of a heart attack brought on by the stress of the confrontation and the drugs in his system. He's no martyr for me. He chose his life style. The police on the scene were off the rails and have been charged with their crimes. The real martyrs were the innocent shop owners who lost their business and the people who were killed by the thugs in the protest. The data does not support all this outrage. The incident was used by ANTIFA and Black Lives Matter to forward their agendas. Both of those organizations are terrorist in nature. This whole ordeal has made it virtually impossible to get justice for anybody involved. I'm pretty much done with it and had enough.

[riley2011]

What’s wrong with thug? If the shoe fits.......

[bowlingal]

yes, it was a terrible act by the police, and should be punished accordingly. However, everyone is making him out to be a saint and he was not.

[Chloe Girl]

I totally agree that Floyd's death was a tragedy and am glad that the cops that were involved will be punished for killing him. But I hate the fact that Floyd is being held in such high esteem because a Martin Luther King he wasn't and his rap sheet proves it. So, some folks want to abolish the law and order of the police. Let's see how they like living in anarchy!!

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by Velvet

Whatever language we use to describe Floyd, he was a person and as a person he had rights and one of them was not to be suffocated.

I haven't heard anyone that disagrees with that.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by rlcooper70

Is police brutality justified by the criminal's record? What about civil society? The president wanted to call in the military last week ... the generals stood in his way ... if they had not would that have been called "martial law"? If he had declared martial law would the conservatives have objected? Or would they blame the liberals?

Who is saying that police brutality is justified? The officers have been charged with a crime and will stand trial.

What else would you like to see happen?

The actions of a few bad apples in our police force are not a reason to change and entire system.

Incidents of police brutality are few and far between. Incidents of the police killing someone while arresting them are ever more rare. Yet there are some that want to use this for political purposes and benefit from all of the publicity, protests and demonstrations.

The thing is that in six months this will all have blown over, the protests, riots and demonstrations will end and it will be a footnote in history.

[martynpat]

His record and character aren't in question. The question here is police use of excessive force. When a man is handcuffed and not breathing he is subdued. Force beyond that is murder. What happened to protect and serve?

[Mrodmh]

Google Tony Timpa. How much did his life matter?

[DeeCee Dubya]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

Well, he certainly was not an upstanding citizen walking down the street minding his own business who was hassled because he was black. That's for sure. I seriously doubt these cops were arresting him because he was black. He was under the influence and had an amazingly long record of drug convictions as well as the aggravated robbery conviction where he had held a gun to a (black) woman's stomach.

Is anyone else wondering why he left Texas where he had lived much of his life? Do they have something like a three strikes and you're out rule meaning life imprisonment with no parole for another conviction?

Looks like they do.

"The Three Strikes Law in Texas and Other States
Texas’ three strikes law was first enacted in 1952. California’s law was passed in 1994. After three separate felony convictions, an individual is subject to a life sentence in prison. The law and others like it in other states was enacted to cut down on recidivism – offenders who go on to commit future crimes. Lawmakers believe that career criminals can’t be rehabilitated. To stop them from continuously committing crimes and tying up the justice system, they impose harsh penalties after a third offense.

In most states with repeat offender laws, the law only applies to felony convictions. About half the states in the country have some form of a three-strike law."

From: Does Texas Have a Three Strikes Law? - Mark Diaz

Gotta love Texas justice. I spent almost 8 years in the Lone Star State and had to deal with violent young black males all the time.

[Mardarlowe]

I know the language I use to describe him is spot on.

[Skunky1]

Innocent until proven guilty. Protect and serve.

[WesMan]

Originally Posted by John_W

Your statement makes no sense. Use the language you use with your friends. If I was talking to my friends about George Floyd, I would say he's was thug. You live in gutter, you die in the gutter. He should of got 20 years for armed home invasion, he held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach while 5 others ransacked the house. He was lucky they offered a plea bargain and served five years. How many friends, people, others do you know that have served five years in prison for armed robbery?

The truth comes out!!!!!

[npmcnmom]

Absolutely correct