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Old 04-22-2023, 04:06 PM
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They will be doing more tests on the weapon involved in the death and injury.

Baldwin was cleared in the shooting or something like that despite having a lot going against him.
No, a judge said they would have a hard time proving their case.

Completely different from "being cleared"...
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That does not sound accurate. Baldwin would still be on the hook if it were true.
Nope. Your latest excuse, "But the gun was modified" muddied the waters (even though it doesn't matter to anyone who knows anything about firearms). But it WILL matter to in ignorant jury...
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I think most could agree that Baldwin isn’t a very likable guy. Yet he gets his “day in court” as it should be. It’s a shame that certain political figures don’t get the same unbiased justice.
Looks like he won't be getting his day in court...
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Those connections often mean nothing in a place like where the movie Rust was being filmed.
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The ONLY way the gun can fire is if the hammer strikes the firing pin or some old ones have the firing pin on the hammer. If the trigger has been modified, YES the gun can fire without pulling the trigger. BUT, only if the hammer is first pulled back. Single action revolvers ALWAYS have to have the hammer pulled back manually.
He may not "intended" to kill or shoot anyone, but he DID shoot and kill someone. That is manslaughter. He still took a life and must stand trial. The manslaughter was NOT justified, although it may be deemed accidental, such as someone accidentally running over a child when backing out of their driveway. I have seen no reports that he "intended" to end a life or even injure someone. Regardless, by ALL accounts he was negligent and there might be a charge of "negligent homicide" or "negligent manslaughter" depending on the local statute. The gun did not aim itself at the victim and certainly did not arm itself. The gun did not go off while laying on a table. It was handled by AB and it fired, regardless of intent.
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i can't handle the truth? Methinks you're responding to the wrong person...
nope not directed at you. Just a launch site posting.
Like the way you post. In my neighborhood we would of called you " machine gun "
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The gun experts have said that it could have fired without the trigger being pulled. That is why the prosecutors dropped the case against Alec Baldwin but now have to investigate as to who and why the gun was modified.
And WHO brought a live round onto the set.
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Sorry, as someone who has been shooting guns for the last 50 years, including IPSC competition pistol, if the hammer is not pulled back, there’s no way that gun will fire. It’s a single action.
Regardless, I’ve been taught since the age of 10 you never point a gun at anything or handle it without checking to see if it’s empty or loaded.
Police automatics are NOT single-action, but the Sig Sauer has been going off and shooting fellow Police Officers. Many incidents recently. So, if a modern expensive pistol can fire off unexpectedly (maybe from some bump) then an older single action with lesser metallurgy could fire off from a bump and possibly with the hammer down, but definitely with the hammer cocked.
.....But, most likely the actor had his finger on the trigger as he pulled back the hammer.
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I worked in the business for 35 years and during that time there were many sets that had firearms. I don't know if the trigger was pulled or not and even if that is the important issue. The full responsibility is on the person who in charge with handling these guns. On the sets I worked on the prop master, or his assistant would show up on the set just before they were ready to shoot, show the talent that the gun was empty and wait around until they were finished and collect it. The mere fact that any other than the armorer had access put the blame squarely on them. There was another question where the gun was aimed. I wasn't there but in most cases it's the director or the cinematographer who will direct the actor on everything to achieve the shot they're looking for. I was on a dark roof top one night where a crew member fell down a five-story building airshaft, we broke for lunch as the fire department got him out and when right back up to finish the shot under the same conditions. The bottom line even though someone died on this shoot, this whole thing was overblown since a star was involved. Movie sets can be dangerous places to work, long hours, fast pace, and young crews, what could possibly go wrong.
with all your experience, may i ask if you have ever worked with a modified weapon, & if so, what was the modification & why?
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And WHO brought a live round onto the set.
i think this would be the key argument. had there been NO live rounds, circumstances MAY have been different. yet on the other hand, i've heard blanks can hurt people as well.
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i think this would be the key argument. had there been NO live rounds, circumstances MAY have been different. yet on the other hand, i've heard blanks can hurt people as well.
Can't remember if it was mentioned on TOTV or I read it somewhere, but didn't the crew/actors shoot at tin cans and other targets when filming was done for the day?
If they did, that was probably where the mixed ammo came about.
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talk about reckless! a recipe for disaster
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Does the name "Nick Sandman" ring a bell?
275 Million asked for but no account of what they settled for. Dan Rather was fired for his report on Bush......other than Lou Dobbs seems that Tucker and company are still working.......just saying
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nope not directed at you. Just a launch site posting.
Like the way you post. In my neighborhood we would of called you " machine gun "
Yeah, but I always "pull the trigger" when I post...
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