[Byte1]

Originally Posted by roscoguy

So, maybe the U.S. government should have honored Sherman's promise back then, rather than wringing our hands over 150 years later about the hugely inflated amount it would cost today. It would have made a lot of sense from a fiscal standpoint alone, if you really think about it...

There has already been reparations in our country. Affirmative action comes to mind. But, how do you figure out who gets what? After all, many former slaves received confiscated land in the South after the Civil War. I would think that everyone having the same Constitutional rights today should be enough to satisfy most, without having certain groups treated better than others, just based on color, gender or sexual preference.

[Red Rose]

What I want to know is why can't I open the article about how the Sumter Landing name is now offensive too? Why is it not downloading?

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by DeanFL

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I must mumble to myself a few times per day now - "our poor kids and grandkids"...

No more of my words required re this topic. These cover the issue quite well.>
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Hmm, does that mean that the CIVIL War never happened and there is no real racial problem? Great, discussion is over!

[Holpat39]

Why now? Why wasn't this removal of statues done after MLK march. Why not after the Rodney King killing in California, why not during previous administrations? Can someone explain WHY NOW?

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by alwann

If I recall correctly, the Statuary Hall Collection in the U.S. Capitol building includes Robert E. Lee and Jeff Davis. When will revisionists demand their removal? Washington and Jefferson too--- slave owners.

According to the NEWS, Pelosi has demanded the removal of those statues.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Strongel

We are slow to learn. Talk solution, what we have learned. It’s easy to rehearse the problems and takes no critical thinking but solves nothing.
Statue or no statue, what did we learn from this? What did we miss? Are we better or worse for it?

This country imperfect as it is has been the envy of many nations. Why?

Slavery, racism and every other division where people are different has occurred all over the world and still goes on today. We are not the “only” country. We haven’t solved the problem 100% but have made headway. It is not systemic but pockets of individuals. How can we hold individuals responsible? How can we shut up those who stand on a soapbox for profit to blame everyone and stop the corrupt media for showing this along with their misleading stories?

I believe you have it correct. From our deepest past we are all one species, brothers and sisters. We are all out of Africa yet there are many who believe we cannot learn to get along. I sometimes believe that our problems may, in fact, be rooted more in culture than in color since, historically, all races have experienced slavery, often by their own race. Color/race is a convenient and obvious distinction that should be nothing more than a descriptor, like hair or eye color, tall or short. We can, we must be able get through the trivial to get to the important. Peaceful, respectful and open dialogue is essential to bringing us to understanding and equality.
It isn't and it won't be solved over night, but if different species that in nature hate each other (cats and dogs) can learn to get along and accept each other and live together, then why can't we.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by Bellavita

I will rest easy when any sign of paying tribute to traders and people who fought for the right to own a human being is erased. I will rest when the faces on Stone Mountain are removed. I will rest when racist are ashamed to fly the Confederate flag. I will rest when the KKK is disbanded I will rest when Nazis are gone from the face of the earth I will rest when the Red Man is not looked down on I will rest when we don’t discriminate on people who are different than white men And are equal. We have much work to do.

America won the war the south lost. We don’t honor traders and people who fought to own a human being. That is history Confederacy is dead bury the damn thing forever

Since my family arrived in the U.S. way after the Civil War, we found it educational and interesting to travel and view monuments to commemorate battles, leaders and famous people that were part of making this young country the World's Best. Is it true that the white man conquered and stole this country from the "red" man? If so, doesn't that blemish one's view of the white man? Or, should all memorials to the losers (red man) be destroyed, because we do not wish to have reminders of losers in this country?
Isn't it amazing how many folks that hate the South, have moved to the South to exploit it, ever since the carpetbaggers of yesteryear? Southerners have a culture, just like African Americans, Irish, Jews, Italians, etc. Is it called assimilation or elimination? Do we eliminate what a very few find offensive or do not agree with? What happens when Atheists decide they are offended by Christian symbols and demand their removal..............oh wait.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by roscoguy

That alone obviously won't heal the damage done by centuries of racial violence & prejudice. It won't "solve" any specific problem, but it would sent a very belated message that we aren't proud of the people that led the fight to preserve the institution of slavery. Maybe if the message is clear and sincere enough, progress could be made.

Not interested in "sending a message." Time for folks to get over it and get on with their lives. We live in the best country in the world and there is no need to destroy that just because a few disgruntled folks feel slighted. There are no excuses today. If you commit a crime, regardless of color, you reap the consequences no matter how unfortunate. If you want fair, then don't break the "fair" law. I believe the the expiration date of social injustice has come and gone. Last year, we had a record in this country for employment of ALL colors and genders. No more excuses. The only persons slighted are the anarchists, and they are having the time of their lives right now. Lets get this over with so that we can put this country back on track.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Byte1

There has already been reparations in our country. Affirmative action comes to mind. But, how do you figure out who gets what? After all, many former slaves received confiscated land in the South after the Civil War. I would think that everyone having the same Constitutional rights today should be enough to satisfy most, without having certain groups treated better than others, just based on color, gender or sexual preference.

We should all have a level playing field. You want something work for it, simple as that.

[airstreamingypsy]

Why should the USA celebrate traitors? Why have statues of men who took up arms against the United States? Does Germany have statues of Hitler and his men everywhere? I don't think so.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by NFRicaS

FYI...Most of the looting burning, etc. was begun by white nationalists and neo-nazis...To incite chaos so blacks would be blamed...

Hard to justify "most," but as recent events prove...it's certainly "some."

Scumbag Caught (click here)


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[oldtimes]

Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy

Why should the USA celebrate traitors? Why have statues of men who took up arms against the United States? Does Germany have statues of Hitler and his men everywhere? I don't think so.

Actually they do. When we visited one of the stops on our tour was Hitlers bunker.

[joedi]

You are mistaking its a White Person Power thing!

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy

Why should the USA celebrate traitors? Why have statues of men who took up arms against the United States? Does Germany have statues of Hitler and his men everywhere? I don't think so.

What does Hitler have to do with it? Did Hitler start a revolution or split the country in half and succeed from it? I bet if he had won there would be statues of him everywhere, right? I think perhaps that this is comparing apples to oranges.

[stevemac]

I taught American History for 37 years in Massachusetts. Students took a minimum of 2 years American History. Where in the U.S. is it not taught?