[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Duneahh

Exactly as Morgan Freeman replied to an interview question some years ago about how to stop racism: "STOP talking about it!"

Oh. I like that response better than any I have ever heard. I wish I knew you Duneahh.

[Rebel Pirate]

The definition of racism is perhaps the biggest problem. See all the suggestions this thread has generated about "how to end racism"...without anyone defining the term? I believe that most people our age (I'm thinking typical Villager...55+ YOA) has a similar idea about what constitutes racism. (I won't go into my/our hoary out-of-touch thoughts.) However, we are completely out of step with modern thinking about racism...thus, all the responses to this thread's title/question are also out of step.

Recent academic work/theories, university-level classes, and federally-funded training for government employees hold that racism is structural, systemic, and institutional. I won't turn this into a never-to-be-read tome, but, the bottom line is...if you are white, you are racist; you exhibit racism by your very being and existence. Math, science, forgiveness, logic, reasoning (and many other characteristics) are all artifacts of racist thinking, a racist culture and a racist system.

Now, try responding to this thread with the above ideas (that are being taught to our grandchildren and current federal employees) as back drop to the thread's title.

[ficoguy]

Based on your economic status and the net present value of the benefits that have accrued to you over your lifetime because of slavery, as determined by an actuary, you should assume a liability of the stated amount and then start paying it down, like a mortgage - or have it passed on as part of your estate.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by ficoguy

Based on your economic status and the net present value of the benefits that have accrued to you over your lifetime because of slavery, as determined by an actuary, you should assume a liability of the stated amount and then start paying it down, like a mortgage - or have it passed on as part of your estate.

Great idea with only one problem.

My grandparents came here just over a hundred years ago after being serfs in Russia.

So in others words some people think that people who have never been slaves should be given payments from people who were grandchildren of people who were basically slaves themselves.

[Aloha1]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I dislike anything that smacks of "pity" in any form. I don't know why I am like that, but I am. I don't like handouts and freebies for the poor. I would most likely almost starve before I took them. I am pretty sure we were poor but no one ever used that word. I think I have unwittingly tried all of my life not ever to be a poor pitiful pearl. Now there is a word for something like it; infantilize.... Making someone feel like a helpless baby out of perceived kindness.

A hand up, always. A hand out, never.

[La lamy]

Kind of reminds me what professional orchestra member's auditions are like where I live. They're behind a wall so no bias from the employers. All about how the musician plays.

[Indydealmaker]

Originally Posted by amexsbow

For all job applications remove all identifiers. Age, sex/ethnicity/address will NOT be included when applying. College degree will be listed where applicable, without the name of the institution. Date of degree will not be listed. Dates of work history will not be included. Individual identifiers attached to applicants identity will be issued by a third party.

After a pool of candidates are selected from the applications, blind interviews will be conducted. Only after a job offer is made will the employer and employee meet.

Where physical or skill sets are a criteria, a third party will test the applicants.

This will eliminate any hiring bias. Only the best qualified applicants will be hired based on qualifications not personality or appearances.

Good employees are too hard to find. Hiring bias is a myth.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Indydealmaker

Good employees are too hard to find. Hiring bias is a myth.

Yes, and women only make 79 percent of what men make for doing the same work. If that were true, no one would hire any men.

[JoMar]

Originally Posted by Indydealmaker

Good employees are too hard to find. Hiring bias is a myth.

That depends on who is doing the hiring? Your view assumes that there is no bias when hiring and I know that to be untrue.

[JIMLUPO77]

Based on these requirements ............i'll apply for the job of ladies college locker room monitor !!!!!!!

[lwmilo]

Originally Posted by amexsbow

For all job applications remove all identifiers. Age, sex/ethnicity/address will NOT be included when applying. College degree will be listed where applicable, without the name of the institution. Date of degree will not be listed. Dates of work history will not be included. Individual identifiers attached to applicants identity will be issued by a third party.

After a pool of candidates are selected from the applications, blind interviews will be conducted. Only after a job offer is made will the employer and employee meet.

Where physical or skill sets are a criteria, a third party will test the applicants.

This will eliminate any hiring bias. Only the best qualified applicants will be hired based on qualifications not personality or appearances.

You mean you want to throw out the Affirmative Action Program??? Nice try.

[TexaninVA]

Originally Posted by amexsbow

For all job applications remove all identifiers. Age, sex/ethnicity/address will NOT be included when applying. College degree will be listed where applicable, without the name of the institution. Date of degree will not be listed. Dates of work history will not be included. Individual identifiers attached to applicants identity will be issued by a third party.

After a pool of candidates are selected from the applications, blind interviews will be conducted. Only after a job offer is made will the employer and employee meet.

Where physical or skill sets are a criteria, a third party will test the applicants.

This will eliminate any hiring bias. Only the best qualified applicants will be hired based on qualifications not personality or appearances.

I agree in principle ... meritocracy is what is always best for society in the long run.

They used to do that when hiring for orchestras ... i.e. simply listen to a recording or whatever of the music being played by the applicant. That was recently deemed racist by the enlightened and now it requires showing your face, so to speak, so that the hiring decision can then proceed.


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[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by TexaninVA

I agree in principle ... meritocracy is what is always best for society in the long run.

They used to do that when hiring for orchestras ... i.e. simply listen to a recording or whatever of the music being played by the applicant. That was recently deemed racist by the enlightened and now it requires showing your face, so to speak, so that the hiring decision can then proceed.


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Why would listening to an applicant;s music be racist? How do different racial groups manage to sound different when playing music?

[TexaninVA]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Why would listening to an applicant;s music be racist? How do different racial groups manage to sound different when playing music?

That's the point ... it makes no sense. But, it no longer has to make sense as long as it makes the easily upset in society feel better. It's essentially another form of paternalistic pandering by the self-styled enlightened thinkers in our society.

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[ficoguy]

I have worked as a consultant in many government agencies and I can tell you it’s a mediocre-cracy. One guy told me he had no idea how he got hired for the job he was in. All day he wandered around looking for someone to show him something. But he showed up for every meeting