[Vermilion Villager]

Originally Posted by JoelJohnson

We have a major problem getting people to work. So why don't we make it easy for these people to come into the country legally? They are willing to do the jobs that most Americans do not want to do. They pay taxes from their pay and when they buy stuff. MOST just want what we want, peace, safety and a place to raise a family without the fear of being killed.

CAUSE THIS IS AMERIKA!!!! WE DON'T DO THAT WOKE KIND OF THINKING HERE!
As far as providing an environment promoting peace, safety, to raise a family the Bible says:.....huh...oh wait...ah never mind

[ithos]

Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy

I completely agree and I'm happy to see this post. The problem is a large part of the population has been trained to be frightened of people who are not white and shiny because they are "rapists and murderers."

I find that when people resort to ad hominem accusations in a discourse it is usually because they do not have logic, reason or facts to validate their opinion.

[Marine1974]

Originally Posted by JoelJohnson

We have a major problem getting people to work. So why don't we make it easy for these people to come into the country legally? They are willing to do the jobs that most Americans do not want to do. They pay taxes from their pay and when they buy stuff. MOST just want what we want, peace, safety and a place to raise a family without the fear of being killed.

It’s already easy for these people to come into our country. Not all are willing to work because they are bring illegal and deadly drugs into our country and are human traffickers. 60 billion a year untaxed dollars are going back to Mexico . They use our services and don’t pay income taxes . Hope that helps you choose correctly.

[craiglittler]

The United States prides itself on LEGAL Immigrants, not ILLEGAL Immigrants who have broken our laws by not going through the legal process. They're criminals not citizens.

Originally Posted by Kelevision

This was clearly written a long time ago……..

The United States prides itself on being a nation of immigrants, and the country has a long history of successfully absorbing people from across the globe. The integration of immigrants and their children contributes to our economic vitality and our vibrant and ever changing culture.

[ithos]

Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy

WE DO NOT HAVE OPEN BORDERS. Those of us who don't have a problem with immigrants don’t want open borders, we just want immigration policies that make sense. A good place to start is admitting that we need immigrant labor. If you don’t think so talk to a farmer. In order for immigrants to stop acting as a wage suppressant, we might try treating them like human beings rather than things that exist purely for the purpose of exploitation.

Another part of the equation would be foreign policy objectives that seek to help stabilize the economies of countries where asylum-seekers are coming from. The current crisis on our southern border is due to intolerable living conditions in failing states in Central America. If we don’t deal with these tottering states the crisis will never end. Sometimes anyplace-else is better than where you are.

My friends want common sense immigration policies that treat immigrant labor with simple humanity rather than crass exploitation. This is a country built by immigrants. It seems to me that an immovable anti-immigrant position is just a denial of our historical legacy.

YES WE DO.
Border patrol chief says DHS does not have 'operational control' over southern border

Border patrol chief says DHS does not have 'operational control' over southern border | WCTI
And for the cartels it is great for business
Color-coded passage: Why smugglers are tagging U.S.-bound migrants with wristbands | Reuters
And one of the obvious signs is the increase in overdoses.
Opioid Crisis Worse Now Than Ever: Drug Overdose Deaths Spike Amid Fentanyl Surge

[jim@jedward.com]

What is a social contract? Where can I get my executed copy?

[Heytubes]

One thing to note: the Department of Labor no longer includes those in their report people who have quit looking for work. Thus, 3% unemployment.

[Caymus]

Originally Posted by Heytubes

One thing to note: the Department of Labor no longer includes those in their report people who have quit looking for work. Thus, 3% unemployment.

There are two main unemployment rates (U-3 and U-6). People no longer looking for work are included in the U-6 rate. That rate is over 6%.

[huge-pigeons]

Most of the illegals live off of our taxes for quite some time after they come into our country. Right now, NYC is putting the illegals up in expensive hotels, they are given money, phone, free health care, free school, etc.. all on our dime. Then some people want to hire illegals under the table so they don’t pay taxes. I think a lot of illegals don’t pay taxes mainly because if they don’t have a social security #, then they don’t pay taxes. Now congress is thinking about giving illegals social security when social security is going to run into financial issues in 2034.
Anybody living here, needs to work, pay taxes and pay into social security and before anybody gets a dime off the tax payers that work

[Blackbird45]

Almost all of the illegal who cross the border are coming here for a better life.
If you were in their shoes, you would do the same.
For a better life you need a job.
The people who are coming across the Rio Grande River know they will be employed before their clothes dry.
What needs to be done and will probably take about two years to implement is to bring social security cards into the 21st. century. Instead of that thin piece of card broad disintegrating in your wallet replace it with plastic with a chip and a strip.
I purchase something or a service person come over and swipes my card within minutes I receive an e-mail the vendors name and the amount.
Before an employer hire someone he will have to scan the employee's card. Also forget the $1,000 fine, make it 15K for each person working illegally and that not only border crosser that is also people working off the books. Whomever reports this activity will receive 1/2 of the total fine, even if it's an illegal. This is not a foreign concept; Texas is using a reward system like this to control abortions.
In the future these cards can replace a number of cards, it will even let you vote at your local ATM.
You take away the lure of employment and illegal immigrants will slow down to a trickle.

[Lindsyburnsy]

Only if you actually want to get the work done at all.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Why???? So you can hurry up and support illegal aliens?????

[Battlebasset]

Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy

I completely agree and I'm happy to see this post. The problem is a large part of the population has been trained to be frightened of people who are not white and shiny because they are "rapists and murderers."

I wondered how long it would be before I saw this tired and false argument being used to paint anyone that doesn't support unfettered illegal immigration as just being against people of color. And I wasn't disappointed.

[Normal]

Anyone that is honest with themselves, knows how very blessed they were to be born on this side of a man made line called a border. Groups of political leaders decided where these country borders should be and they can change at any given time. People born on the other side of the line are equal in humanity in every way shape and form. They cross the “government” line and all of a sudden some think they are some kind of subhuman species.

At times I’m torn by the fact that I want to enjoy what I think I have built up for myself and the very fact that we are all human with the distinction of having made up borders. What gives me the right to say me first?

The law enacted on July 1 is a good one, because it establishes order. The more people we have, the more order we need. I also feel like I have no right to kick others out just because I was blessed enough to be born here and they got the short end of the proverbial stick.

[NoMoSno]

Canada must be an evil country (NOT) with these immigration requirements:
Documents for Express Entry - Canada.ca

[Caymus]

Originally Posted by Normal

Anyone that is honest with themselves, knows how very blessed they were to be born on this side of a man made line called a border. Groups of political leaders decided where these country borders should be and they can change at any given time. People born on the other side of the line are equal in humanity in every way shape and form. They cross the “government” line and all of a sudden some think they are some kind of subhuman species.

At times I’m torn by the fact that I want to enjoy what I think I have built up for myself and the very fact that we are all human with the distinction of having made up borders. What gives me the right to say me first?

The law enacted on July 1 is a good one, because it establishes order. The more people we have, the more order we need. I also feel like I have no right to kick others out just because I was blessed enough to be born here and they got the short end of the proverbial stick.

Which border? US and Canada?