[Pballer]

Originally Posted by Joe C.

Sorry, but the AR-15 is NOT an assault weapon. Assault weapons are select-fire, semi-auto and full auto. An AR-15 is a semi-auto, and only looks like the military version. Besides, semi-automatic rifles were invented for civilian (hunting) use years before the military decided to go semi-auto. Also, hunting, sport shooting, and target shooting is done on a daily basis with semi-automatic weapons. It would help if you got your facts together before issuing an emotional and illogical statement. But, I do understand where you are coming from.

I can see needing a semi-automatic for the "sport" of hunting. Make sure the animal has no chance.

[MrFlorida]

Originally Posted by forebubba

Do you need a military weapon designed to kill and rip apart anything it hits?
Do you need a 30 + round clip?
Do you need a gun that can fire 30 rounds in 15 seconds?
Do you have a problem waiting for a week to get a gun while a person is checked out for a mental and and or criminal record.
Do you think it's ok for people to have guns more powerful than the police?

A overwhelming number of people want these changes EVEN GUN OWNERS

Wake up

The Supreme Court say's its our Constitutional right, if you don't agree you can move.

[rhand48]

Do you want to tell me what politicians coming from Chicago to Milwaukee your referring to??




"I lived in Wisconsin most of my life and Chicago was concerned a cesspool to us.
Even the politicians in Milwaukee all came out of Chicago, ran for office, retired then crawled back to Chitown."

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Pballer

I can see needing a semi-automatic for the "sport" of hunting. Make sure the animal has no chance.

So you're not a hunter. Many bird hunters use semi-automatics in order to get more than one shot at a group of birds flying away.

[New Englander]

The police think they got the shooter. Given a fair trial and found guilty. I think he should be hung. Anyone who commits horrendous crimes like this should dangle from the end of a rope.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by forebubba

Do you need a military weapon designed to kill and rip apart anything it hits?
Do you need a 30 + round clip?
Do you need a gun that can fire 30 rounds in 15 seconds?
Do you have a problem waiting for a week to get a gun while a person is checked out for a mental and and or criminal record.
Do you think it's ok for people to have guns more powerful than the police?

A overwhelming number of people want these changes EVEN GUN OWNERS

Wake up

Military weapons are already illegal.

A weapon should not be made illegal based solely on whether it is ugly or pretty.

I don't want laws that set a precedent with an arbitrary line that can later be changed. I am against weakening the Constitution by letting a foot in the door.

Would a background check have made a difference? For all I know, one was performed.

I am skeptical of the "overwhelming number" claim. But easy enough to find out - put it on a ballot.

Where is the legislation making it illegal to shoot students and teachers or to shoot into a crowd watching a parade? If the solution was a law then let's create those laws. What? Those laws already exist but the criminals don't obey them? Then why in the world is there such a push to create more laws for the criminals to disobey.

[Joe C.]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

I agree with your statement, but not everyone is gun smart, I am sure the poster was simply using the current popular term (assault weapon) to refer to the Assault styled weapon commonly called the AR_15, which is the weapon of choice for mass shootings. That does not take away from your points, but we could all use a little more effort to reason what people are trying to say instead of getting all bent over they saying it wrong.

I was a IT consultant most of my career and I would not have had many clients if I constantly corrected their incorrect usages of IT terminology, instead I tried to understand what they meant, so we could address the problem they have.

Arguing over terms while mass shooting occur about every 2 days in this country is not really productive and tends to make people feel confrontational.

Here's the problem with that: People need to correctly identify and use the proper terminology when talking or reporting about firearms. When definitions are skewed, and continually used in public, a common misunderstanding ends up becoming "fact". People call a magazine by the incorrect term "clip" and that word can eventually be used when enacting local laws. People watch too many movies with guns and actually believe those special effects are real. Words have meaning, and should be used correctly in order for the reader or listener to understand what is actually being conveyed.

[Pballer]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

So you're not a hunter. Many bird hunters use semi-automatics in order to get more than one shot at a group of birds flying away.

I guess it is the great equalizer for hunters that have no marksmanship skills. I wonder how they ever shot birds in the 19th and earlier centuries.

[Bellavita]

2021 Nearly eight-in-ten (79%) U.S. murders in 2020 – 19,384 out of 24,576 – involved a firearm.

Originally Posted by Two Bills

I found this an interesting article by BBC.
In UK 2020/21 there were 235 homicides where knives were involved.
The weapon of choice since guns were banned.

America'''s gun culture - in seven charts - BBC News

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by MrFlorida

The Supreme Court say's its our Constitutional right, if you don't agree you can move.

Why does everyone hate America so much. I joined the Marines so people can say things like that. I sure don’t agree with it. AMericas greatness has been its diversity and respect. Telling people to leave because you disagree is discussing and anti everything America stand for.

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by Joe C.

Here's the problem with that: People need to correctly identify and use the proper terminology when talking or reporting about firearms. When definitions are skewed, and continually used in public, a common misunderstanding ends up becoming "fact". People call a magazine by the incorrect term "clip" and that word can eventually be used when enacting local laws. People watch too many movies with guns and actually believe those special effects are real. Words have meaning, and should be used correctly in order for the reader or listener to understand what is actually being conveyed.

So people who are not literate in some you know about should just shut up? No point in trying to understand what they are saying? No point in trying to politely educate them? No point trying to discuss, just rant about a word that is improper.y used while every two days more people, often children, die.

Good plan

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by Joe C.

Here's the problem with that: People need to correctly identify and use the proper terminology when talking or reporting about firearms. When definitions are skewed, and continually used in public, a common misunderstanding ends up becoming "fact". People call a magazine by the incorrect term "clip" and that word can eventually be used when enacting local laws. People watch too many movies with guns and actually believe those special effects are real. Words have meaning, and should be used correctly in order for the reader or listener to understand what is actually being conveyed.

Most of the media have no idea what they are talking about (parroting!!).

And way too many on open forums like this have no clue what they are talking about.....here again parroting from the media or special interest talking points......where it matters not whether accurate or false.

They are entitled to their opinion even if incorrect.

[jimbomaybe]

Originally Posted by Pballer

I can see needing a semi-automatic for the "sport" of hunting. Make sure the animal has no chance.

being killed outright by a gun shot is probably much quicker and a cleaner death than most animals experience in the wild, a quick follow up shot could save the animal from a slower harder death if they were to escape wounded

[jimbomaybe]

Originally Posted by billethkid

Most of the media have no idea what they are talking about (parroting!!).

And way too many on open forums like this have no clue what they are talking about.....here again parroting from the media or special interest talking points......where it matters not whether accurate or false.

They are entitled to their opinion even if incorrect.

Certainly everyone has a right to their opinion, but if a person is wrong on the facts it degrades the worth of their opinion

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Pballer

I guess it is the great equalizer for hunters that have no marksmanship skills. I wonder how they ever shot birds in the 19th and earlier centuries.

Speaking about something you know nothing about.