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The United States and Taiwan are distinctly different countries. The US is 3rd in population, Taiwan 56, US 2nd in GDP, Taiwan 21. Taiwan does not give any type of public assistance (welfare, unemployment, social security) and falls under control of the people’s republic of China. Taiwan is not part of the UN and their government is not held accountable to the World Court. More than half the population seek to reunify with PRC (which is communist). Their climate change has risen by more than double the average country, which means they are not enviro friendly.

If you feel Taiwan is doing such a fine job as a country I’m sure you can find a plane seat to take you their. Just make sure you are willing to deal with the bad as well as all the “wonderful” thet another country had to offer. I fought to protect my country and I will take her for all her faults because she is still better than any other country.
The truth is that the US ranks around 30th on ALL quality of life measurable (not subjective) issues on the world list. The Scandinavian Countries tend to rank in the top 10. I did not look up Taiwan recently, but I would guess (?) that they rank higher than the US. But, there is no real point in doing that because the example of Taiwan was used to simply show what is possible with CV (and CV only). The post did NOT try to say that Taiwan was superior to the US in EVERYTHING - just in ADAPTATION to CV.
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Yes and in Australia mak wearing also dramatically reduced the number of cases of "ordinary" flu during their winter.
That is correct!!!!! I had forgotten that. More proof positive that masks work !!!!!
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take 20 mins and learn from the great historian Tom Woods on the mask cult;
The Covid Cult | Thomas E. Woods, Jr. - YouTube
I looked up this guy and he is an author and historian. Sorry, but I'm not listening to anyone who is not a scientist, doctor or epidemiologist. I watched the first 3 minutes and saw enough of what this man has to say.
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It’s true that drinking and smoking kill but it’s your decision to kill yourself, not others. Have at it.

Nowhere in the Constitution does it refer to the freedom to ignore mask mandates. It is those who are selfishly “living their lives” instead of taking a simple step to do their part that are transmitting this deadly disease.

It’s not fear (a most insulting and condescending remark) it’s consideration for others that prompts mask wearers to comply.
Perfectly stated. Those who wear masks are doing it for other's safety, not their own. But, having said that, if everyone wore masks then EVERYONE would be protected. Couple universal mask wearing with social distancing and we will get the upper hand with this virus.
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It is reported that millions more people are wearing masks , why then are testing positive numbers still growing. And once inflected it is reported you are immune . We all still have freedom of choice don’t let the fear mongers take you freedoms away, no mandates period. With vaccines available in the very near future, (thank you President Trump) the virus will be eliminated.
That depends on how many people are willing to be vaccinated. Just wondering, are those who are all about their freedoms and refusal to wear masks the people who will refuse to be vaccinated?

One more query.....do those who are all about their freedoms and refuse to wear masks also defy the guideline to social distance and continue to congregate in groups?
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Old 11-24-2020, 02:26 PM
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Can the admin of this page please stop all of these useless posts about masks??? Or create a special page for them? Everyday someone is beating a dead horse! Enough already! People creating these post are extremely undereducated about the topic! They haven’t changed a single persons mind one way or the other and they certainly haven’t educated a single person! Please Mr or Mrs admin stop the fear mongering posts and get back to what this page was initially intended for.
I see by your post count you are new to this forum. My advice to you is not to click on any thread topic that you are not interested in. It is your choice to read the thread or not.
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First of all, the whole idea behind wearing masks and social distancing was NOT to eradicate the virus, but to hopefully slow the spread so ICU units would not be overrun. That was called Flattening the Curve. Secondly if you look at the states in the NE that have had long standing mask mandates and much stricter rules on behavior than Florida, they are spiking at a much higher rate than Florida. So if mask mandates and strict rules haven’t worked there, what makes you think making it national would? That’s basically science, huge test groups showing it’s not successful...
There is a simple answer. Mask mandates are not being enforced. There are still too many people who refuse to wear masks and refuse to keep their distance from others. Those are the folks who are spreading this virus. To bad for us.
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I agree with you 100%. Tired of these nonsensical "debates" where everyone says the same thing every time.
To click or not to click (on the thread). That is the question.
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Thank you for reporting REALITY.
The reality is that it hasn't really been an "explosion" comparetively. This is copied from Today's Leesburg Commercial;

"LEESBURG — Lake County added 67 positive COVID-19 cases to its rolls from Sunday to Monday, according to the Monday update from the Florida Department of Health.

Sumter added 16 confirmed cases in that time.

That brings the total count to 10,151 cases in Lake County and 3,308 in Sumter.

Lake County also recorded one new COVID-related death. Sumter added no new deaths.

The local fatality total is now 337 — 92 in Sumter County and 245 in lake.

In Lake, the fatality rate stands at 2.43% among residents. In Sumter, it's 2.8%.

Both are higher than the state average of 1.94% among positive residents.

Meanwhile, the daily rate of positivity increased in both counties from Sunday to Monday.

A total of 2.93% of the 596 tests received Monday in Sumter County were positive, compared to 1.8% Sunday.


Of the 760 test results reported in Lake Monday, 7.88% of them were positive, up from 5.5% Sunday.

In Florida overall, the state reported the results of 86,955 tests Monday and 6.99% or 6,080, were positive.

As Thanksgiving approaches, the CDC has recommended people avoid traveling for the holiday.

Still some will take the risk.

Locally, Adult Medicine of Lake County and the county itself have partnered to offer free rapid testing, which could help residents make responsible decisions when it comes to traveling and family gatherings.

Rapid testing at the Lake Square Mall in Leesburg goes from 7 a.m. to 6 p.m. Monday through Saturday. They are closed on Thanksgiving Day.

Individuals with insurance must bring a photo ID. Testing is available for children ages 3 and oup.

Here's a breakdown of confirmed cases by city:
Lake

Clermont: 2,694

Leesburg: 1,720

Tavares: 908

Eustis: 852

Mount Dora: 795

Groveland: 698

Lady Lake: 464

Minneola: 266

Sorrento: 263

Mascotte: 252

Fruitland Park: 235

Umatilla: 220

Montverde: 153

Grand Island: 118

Howey-in-the-Hills: 79

Astatula: 74

The Villages: 59

Astor: 50

Altoona: 43

Paisley: 42

Yalaha: 36

Okahumpka: 19

Ferndale: 5

Deer Island: 3

Mount Plymouth: 3

Bella Collina: 3

Deer Island: 3

DeLand: 1

Missing: 1

Sumter

The Villages: 1,042

Coleman: 716

Wildwood: 521

Bushnell: 419

Oxford: 170

Webster: 135

Lake Panasoffkee: 98

Center Hill: 71

Sumterville: 62

Lady Lake: 54
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I, for one, will never wear a mask while outdoors in the open air. Several governors including Hogan in Maryland said just yesterday that "you have no constitutional right not to wear a mask". LOL - what a moron. I would like to respond: "you have no constitutional power to mandate that I wear a mask".

For those who haven't read the constitution and don't understand that we have ALL rights except those specifically given to government, I offer the following logic.

Somehow, about 1/2 the population and most in government power including the US Supreme Court have found a woman's right to abortion in the constitution somewhere. I've read it several times and I can't seem to locate it. One of the mantra's of the pro-abortion crowd is "my body my choice". If a woman has the right to abortion, I most certainly have the right not to wear a mask.

Well, that's now my mantra using the same logic. My body - my choice. I choose not to wear a mask. Don't even think about arguing how me not wearing a mask might affect other people as I can make that same argument about abortion. An abortion kills another human absolutely.

My body - My choice. I think I'll have a t-shirt made.
Nope, doesn't work for me. Don't bother with the T-shirt.
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That is correct!!!!! I had forgotten that. More proof positive that masks work !!!!!
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That depends on how many people are willing to be vaccinated. Just wondering, are those who are all about their freedoms and refusal to wear masks the people who will refuse to be vaccinated?

One more query.....do those who are all about their freedoms and refuse to wear masks also defy the guideline to social distance and continue to congregate in groups?
I am not about "refusal to wear masks" but a refusal to allow the gov more power over me and my adult decisions.
That said:
No, I will not refuse to get vaccinated based on politics or hysteria. I will make the decision when the time comes. I don't get the flu vaccination because I do not get the flu and rarely get a cold. When I do get a cold it will not last more than two days. I may or may not get the C19 shot. I think I would probably get checked for antibodies first, and if it shows that I have resistance to the virus, I may obtain from it in the beginning so that others that need it more can get it.

I wear masks when I deem it appropriate, based on my sense, not someone else's.
I attempt to social distance all the time, regardless of the disease of the month.
I do not like groups so I do not "congregate."

I do not approve of mandates because I believe that most folks can use their own common sense. And those that have no common sense usually have a short lifespan, so it's no skin off my back what they do as long as it is not obviously dangerous to me or mine. I do not consider someone not wearing a mask to be dangerous UNLESS they have the disease. I do not live on the premise of "what if." I live on fact based common sense and gut felling. It has served me well for 70 years. For those that NEED someone to protect you, I suggest checking into a "care facility."

There are leaders and there are followers. AND there are those that lead from behind (AKA lemmings or followers). Gotta love the fancy way a certain politician used to claim he was "leading from behind." How could anyone follow someone like that? Nuff said.

A big NO on mandates, period.
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This post convinced me to start wearing a mask. All those facts make me realize the error of my ways. I will do a better job of protecting myself and others in the future. Now, once you receive the vaccine, please turn that TV off. Get out and enjoy life.
You didn't quote the person so we have no idea which post you are referring to. So.......which post was it that convinced you to start wearing a mask?
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Currently you are correct, but I am not so sure the same can be said a few years from now...unfortunately.
A few? More like couple?
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