[blueash]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Thank you! Your mention of the "chip on the shoulder" attitude is one thing everyone has to get rid of or they spend their life fighting battles and making enemies instead of friends.

If only those blacks weren't so uppity! Am I hearing you correctly?

[Annie66]

This whole issue is incredibly complex. There is no one root cause that if solved would correct the discrimination experienced by minorities. Until Americans can get past the issue that minorities, and particularly blacks, are sub-human, we'll never make sufficient progress towards "all men (and women) are created equal."

To close, I ran across an op-ed penned a few days ago by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar for the LA Times. It scratches the surface but provides a perspective worth considering.

George Floyd protests: People are pushed to the edge - Los Angeles Times

[72lions]

Originally Posted by anothersteve

Like I said, "people" see and read what they want. You don't get the message and can't "see the forrest through the trees"
Tunnel vision is a terrible thing.
Steve

Yes Steve, it is. You saw what you wanted to see. You saw Christian references and it caused you to feel supportive. You forgot that the OP posted this specifically in reference to white privilege and current news events. As yourself how you react when a young black man is behind you at night. Do you notice his skin color or simply that he is young and male?

My son in law’s family came from Barbados. He was born in Boston. His Johns Hopkins Masters degree is in Electrical Engineering. He is a triathlete. His first run from our home during Christmas resulted in the Sumter County Sheriff’s Office being called because a young black man was in the neighborhood.

You and I are privileged. He is not. None of us had anything to do with this.

[lorilorilori]

The next generation ... will NOT be "born white and priviledged."
Many/most government jobs going to minorities
Social security going to minorities and lots of whites being turned down. (yes, its true)
Scholorships available for minorities and less for white kids
Minorities are banding together against whites.
Ok for a black to be a racist - not ok for a white.
If you think your grandkids are going to have it EZ - U R asleep in the real world.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by blueash

If only those blacks weren't so uppity! Am I hearing you correctly?

YEP...you nailed it.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Annie66

This whole issue is incredibly complex. There is no one root cause that if solved would correct the discrimination experienced by minorities.

Until Americans can get past the issue that minorities, and particularly blacks, are sub-human, we'll never make sufficient progress towards "all men (and women) are created equal."

To close, I ran across an op-ed penned a few days ago by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar for the LA Times. It scratches the surface but provides a perspective worth considering.

George Floyd protests: People are pushed to the edge - Los Angeles Times

You've nailed the root of the problem.

[Chi-Town]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

I saw what he posted. Here it is again:



Bold/underlined for emphasis. This is plain English. But translating the grammar for ya:

He hears from people that he is privileged BECAUSE he is white. That his privilege - is a direct result of the color of his skin.

And then he goes on to explain how he's privileged.

So HE is missing the point. Or obfuscating it. Or minimizing it. Or possibly not understanding it - however, since he then says he bristles from it, I'm sensing that he totally understands it.

The white male reference tainted the rest of what could have been an uplifting message.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by lorilorilori

The next generation ... will NOT be "born white and priviledged."
Many/most government jobs going to minorities
Social security going to minorities and lots of whites being turned down. (yes, its true)
Scholorships available for minorities and less for white kids
Minorities are banding together against whites.
Ok for a black to be a racist - not ok for a white.
If you think your grandkids are going to have it EZ - U R asleep in the real world.

My thoughts on your post:

1. Social Security goes to people who pay into it. There are more white people employed in this country than there are black people. Unemployment is higher in blacks than in whites. People who don't pay into social security don't ever get social security checks. And people who have a lower income, will see a smaller social security check, than people with higher incomes. That's how social security works.

2. Maybe if you learned to spell, and learned to use actual words instead of chatroom shortcuts in an internet forum, you would've gotten a scholarship too.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Chi-Town

The white male reference tainted the rest of what could have been an uplifting message.

Exactly that. And the scary part is that there are a few people in this community who don't think it's a problem. Those are the people who need to learn facts more than anyone else, but they refuse to because it doesn't fit their narrative of "everything is fine, those people just don't work hard enough."

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by Chatbrat

The only real thing that has changed and promulgated the situation today is the breakup of the black family, you have single kids raising kids all over the black community--police know who the frequent flyers are, and they react to situations on a daily basis we can only dream of--maybe the only benefit of the current situation will be the demise of urban centers

These riots combined with coronavirus, high taxes will exorbate urban flight.

The demise of the black family unit is a major cause of our current social problems. Children need fathers as well as mothers. IMHO our welfare system is a major cause of today's problems. 80% of the men in prison, black or white, were raised in fatherless homes.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Fairtoall

I forgot to say. In an example where every single thing is the exact same such as attractiveness, IQ, money, upbringing values, religious values, mom and dad types, body type, abilities, etc.; you add the black skin and see what happens.

No it doesn't hold you completely back where you will never have a chance but none of us here wants to share those equals and then add the black skin to us. That would scare the hell out of us.

We would no longer have the totally equal chances even though we might be able to become the president of a company or whatever. As far as stereotypes. Not all country people are rednecks, not all Fl people are morons (our new national name this year), not all white men are bigots, not all women that cheat are whores, not all urban people are city slickers not to be trusted, on and on. Each one should be judged by his or her own behavior just like you would like done to you and that is just not happening at a fair rate.

Excellently stated!

And yet, we keep hearing from the usual suspects that it really doesn't make a difference...having black skin.

Funny (funny sad) thing is though, you don't hear a single one of those same people...saying that they wish they had been born black.

Why is that?

[Timothyimitchell]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

You have never had to leave your house to go to school or work, and worry that the police car driving up the road is going to stop and officers come out with their hands on the handles of their guns, questioning why you're walking on the sidewalk in your neighborhood.

You have never had to be followed by a store clerk who is worried that you're going to steal something.

You've never been in an elevator and when it opened on another floor, the young family about to get in, chose to wait for another elevator instead.

That is privilege. You enjoy things that black people don't get to enjoy, simply by virtue of your skin color.

All about choices and decisions And yes we can and do make them. White privilege? What. A. Joke.

[DeanFL]

....seems like SO many decades ago. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat.
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[Mikenbats66]

This makes me sick . I was a policeman in a large city and never harassed any person black or white . It was always about who are the ones who commit the crimes . More often than not it was blacks who did it and often against whites . But you would never hear about that . Oh no !

[argos5usa]

If there is white privilege, then why does virtually every person with a smidgen of minority blood or affiliation identify as being minority or "of color," especially when applying for colleges, jobs, government programs, etc.?