[M2inOR]

This is getting complicated. People need simplicity and this has become anything but simple.

Back in August we had several in the administration declaring that boosters would be available starting in September. Since then there have been discussions, pro and con. Some focused on fairness - should those vaccines go to other countries? To unvaccinated? Others were worried whether EAU was issued. Still more are still concerned about the trials underway.

We did not get, we did not lie. We simply asked about the flu vaccine and getting a booster. We were not pushed or tricked into getting either. It was explained to us that both were available if we wanted them. Only caution was to not take them together, and suggestion was to get COVID vaccine first, and then wait at least 2 weeks before getting a flu shot.

As mentioned previously, we got the 1st and 2nd back in early Jan and Feb 2021. Me no reaction to either. Wife slightly tired and a sore arm for a day or 2 after the 2nd.

For the 3rd, no reaction for me, slightly tired for my wife.

I am happy this 3rd shot was available. It wasn't forced on us. We made a personal choice.

For those concerned, or confused, no one is forcing anyone to get that booster.

For those that got a booster, or 3rd shot willingly, that may be better than the pharmacies and clinics having to worry about vaccines about to expire.

I'm happy that Villages Health planned ahead, and ordered vaccines in preparation for a Sept 20th rollout. I'm glad the CDC sliced thru the rhetoric, and made a recommendation back in August 2021.

Joint Statement from HHS Public Health and Medical Experts on COVID-19 Booster Shots | CDC Online Newsroom | CDC

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

IMHO, I wouldn't call it "lying" but confusion on the provider's parts and also the general public regarding the Moderna third vaccine shot for the general public over the age of 65 and NOT immunocompromised. This is getting complicated. People need simplicity and this has become anything but simple.

Or, the pharmacists are coaching people to lie...

My golfing buddy went to his local CVS (here in MD) and was told "We're only supposed to give this to immunosuppressed people. All you have to do is attest you're immunosuppressed and you're good to go!"

[GeriS]

Originally Posted by Escape Artist

Wow, this is a total sh*tshow! Why would the pharmacies/doctors be so eager to give boosters? Are they remunerated/getting kickbacks in some way for using up all their vaccines?

Welp, I guess you can't say Florida is anti-vaccine. Everyone seems to be all about it this time around.

Follow the money. Who is getting rich, or should I say richer from this?

[GeriS]

Originally Posted by M2inOR

Back in August we had several in the administration declaring that boosters would be available starting in September. Since then there have been discussions, pro and con. Some focused on fairness - should those vaccines go to other countries? To unvaccinated? Others were worried whether EAU was issued. Still more are still concerned about the trials underway.

We did not get, we did not lie. We simply asked about the flu vaccine and getting a booster. We were not pushed or tricked into getting either. It was explained to us that both were available if we wanted them. Only caution was to not take them together, and suggestion was to get COVID vaccine first, and then wait at least 2 weeks before getting a flu shot.

As mentioned previously, we got the 1st and 2nd back in early Jan and Feb 2021. Me no reaction to either. Wife slightly tired and a sore arm for a day or 2 after the 2nd.

For the 3rd, no reaction for me, slightly tired for my wife.

I am happy this 3rd shot was available. It wasn't forced on us. We made a personal choice.

For those concerned, or confused, no one is forcing anyone to get that booster.

For those that got a booster, or 3rd shot willingly, that may be better than the pharmacies and clinics having to worry about vaccines about to expire.

I'm happy that Villages Health planned ahead, and ordered vaccines in preparation for a Sept 20th rollout. I'm glad the CDC sliced thru the rhetoric, and made a recommendation back in August 2021.

Joint Statement from HHS Public Health and Medical Experts on COVID-19 Booster Shots | CDC Online Newsroom | CDC

Then there will be the 4th, 5th and so on.

[Linnberg]

Originally Posted by Bonnevie

yes, but when I asked about Moderna he said only immunocompromised are eligible

Publix in almost all locations will give moderna 3rd vaccine shot/booster with or without online appointment except weekends do require apppomgments.
You fill out form and get it and barely wait. They will update your card.
We got ours at Southern Trace. We have a friend who
Originally had Pfizer and she got Moderna booster at Publix as well.
They also have booster combined with flu shot
But recommended I wait a couple weeks between shots instead.
Not discussing CDC/FDA, personal or political issues; just discussing facts of getting 3rd dose in The Villages.

[M2inOR]

More from the WSJ this morning:


Covid Booster Shot Authorization Leaves Many With Questions

For doctors, the queries are coming fast and furious: Am I eligible for a booster? After six months or eight months? What if I got Moderna or Johnson & Johnson?

Americans have reached the booster angst stage of the pandemic—and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s announcement on Friday backing extra shots for some people, but not all, has left many with more questions than answers.

In August, with the Delta variant surging and breakthrough infections rising, the Biden administration indicated boosters would be widely available in the U.S. starting this month. After heavy debate among scientists, the CDC ultimately endorsed boosters for a narrower group. Yet its guidance left plenty of room for interpretation about who qual- ifies, doctors say.

“The patient portal is being overrun with emails from patients,” says Mark Fierstein, a primary care physician at NYU Langone Ambulatory Care Lake Success in New York. “There’s a lot of questions. The confusion is because every day someone comes out and says something a little different.”

“The booster conversation has people’s heads spinning,” says Laura Morris, a family physician in Fulton, Mo. She says some patients have been asking about boosters all summer, including whether they are really necessary. Several asked about them Friday; she gave two patients, both in their 70s, the extra shots.

The CDC said Pfizer vaccine recipients who are 65 and over, as well as people ages 50 to 64 with certain underlying medical conditions, should get boosters. It also laid out other groups of people who may get boosters, based on their risk levels and potential benefits, prompting a host of new questions and decision-making. For recipients of the Moderna and J&J vaccines, the FDA and CDC have said that they need more time to review data.

Lucy Ballentine, a 33-year-old in Washington, D.C., is pregnant. Pregnancy and her age likely put her in the category of people who the CDC said “may” receive a booster, but the agency didn’t explicitly say they “should” receive a booster. Ms. Ballentine says she’s interested in getting a booster shot but has questions for her midwife. She wants to know whether she should get one before she gives birth, or wait until after.

If her midwife says she should get it while pregnant, Ms. Ballentine says, “I want to pass on as many antibodies as possible.”

The biggest gray area now is for people ages 18 to 49, doctors say. “That is definitely the group that probably needs to have the most counseling and probably we need to take a closer look at what their individual risk is,” says Dr. Morris.

In that group, doctors say it’s important to look at occupation, where people live and work, who they are commonly exposed to, and their health. Dr. Morris says she has a healthy patient in that age bracket who cares for her mother who is severely immunocompromised. She wanted a booster earlier this week but Dr. Morris told her to hold off; now, she says she’d recommend that the patient get one.

Cameron Wolfe, associate professor of medicine in the division of infectious diseases at Duke University health system, says the guidelines give doctors a lot of flexibility for 18- to 49year-olds. “We’re going to use this in a fairly permissive fashion. If someone is interested and tolerated the first two doses and it’s been six months, I think this is open,” he says.

Some of the questions to consider, he says: “What sort of work do you do? Who’s at home with you who might be at higher risk? Can you afford a couple of weeks off if you get sick? How did you tolerate the first two doses? Have you had Covid before?”

Many people who don’t obviously qualify now are anxious to know when they will. Lauren Lipowicz, a 41-year-old real-estate agent in Lower Merion, Pa., is eager for a booster and will ask her doctor when she might be eligible.

“I want it now,” she says, adding that she won’t get one until she qualifies. “I don’t have an underlying condition and I don’t believe I qualify for having a high-risk job, but if they tell me I can, then I will be the first in line,” she says. She got Covid in August 2020, and got vaccinated this year. “I don’t want to ever have to go through that again,” she says of the virus.

Erica Aikey, a 20-year-old Boston University student who received her second Pfizer shot in June, wants to know when, or if, boosters will be available for people her age. “I’m in in-person classes, in a big city,” she says. “I’d like to put myself in a healthier position.”

[Linnberg]

Originally Posted by matandch

You don’t have to lie. Most doctors and Publix will give you a Moderna 3rd shot if you’re 65+ and at least 6 months past your 2nd shot. These seem to be the minimum qualifications for the 3rd Moderna shot. You don’t have to “talk” anyone into anything. I resent your calling those of us you met those qualifications and got the shot liars and con artists!

Starting to sou d like the roof issue. Those who did not get theirs for free except deductible saying that everyone who did was a scam rather than a
Loophole where insurance companies had to finally pay out because their policies allowed full replacement value for hail or
Wind damage regardless of age. Of course, new
Policies will no longer provide those words.

[Joanne19335]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

So.......Lester and Nora are telling the truth? So glad to hear that.

Having said that..... Hubby saw a "desk" set up at Colony Publix to register people for the Moderna booster shot. I guess Publix hasn't received the memo.

I got my Moderna booster at Publix two weeks ago.

[Joanne19335]

I received my Moderna booster at Publix at Southern Trace two weeks ago.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Linnberg

Starting to sou d like the roof issue. Those who did not get theirs for free except deductible saying that everyone who did was a scam rather than a
Loophole where insurance companies had to finally pay out because their policies allowed full replacement value for hail or
Wind damage regardless of age. Of course, new
Policies will no longer provide those words.

Good to know. I'll remember this when I go get my booster shot...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Joanne19335

I received my Moderna booster at Publix at Southern Trace two weeks ago.

Well, it looks as if they're revising their policy and NOW are following the CDC/FDA guidelines,,,

Once again, a booster for Moderna has NOT YET BEEN APPROVED!

[Jacob85]

My husband got a Moderna shot for the immunocompromised at Publix two weeks ago.

[Jacob85]

They are learning as they go. That is science! Of course they hoped two shots would do it. Things can change daily and if they didn’t then it would be a concern! The Israel studies show that you can have break through cases so need a booster. They are ahead of us. Nobody could know that in advance

[billethkid]

Adding to the confusion:

Third shot, booster, third dose, et al being used interchangeably.

Approval, authorized, emergency authorization all used interchangeably.

Many make an assumption that if one has received their third dose, they are cheating/lying.

Many make an assumption if the provider gave the third dose they were not following the rules.

Right or wrong individual opinions.....like this post!

[Luggage]

still the best place is your OWN DOCTOR

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

This is why you should always go to the source of information, when you want to know the information.

If you want an analysis of the information, or opinions about the information, or an investigative report about the source of the information, you go to the media.

If the media says something and you want to know if there's truth to it, go to the source. Always. Don't say "oh well CNN says X therefore it's fake news" or "Fox stated that and that makes it fake news."

This doesn't apply to breitbart, newsmax, the onion, or oann, because all four are, by definition, fake news.