[Travelhunter]

Originally Posted by JudyLife

Astonishing really that supposedly intelligent, educated people can argue with the scientific evidence out there, not to mention ignoring the fact that thousands in Italy, Spain, the UK AND the USA contracted this new virus and are now six feet under. Do you seriously believe the dead are ‘made up’?

Couldn’t agree more

[GoodLife]

Some have observed that Individuals who have more education, greater life accomplishments, and respect for others are more likely to wear masks.

Sorry, but anyone that doesn’t understand the value and necessity of wearing masks by this point is simply a fool, and no amount of reasoning will make a difference in their behavior.

Why don’t you man up to issue on hand instead of insinuating only one point of view. Afraid to add number 10 to your poll.......I am trying to protect others and our economy by relying on our medical experts and advisors on what I can do to stop the spread. You have no respect for those that have died....real numbers, my friend.

I'm not making fun of people who wear masks. I am making fun of people who push pandemic panic to scare other people into wearing masks.

Personally, I don't use a mask because I don't go into any buildings other than my own home, and stay 20 feet from any people when I am outside my home. People that are older and have pre existing conditions who insist on going to supermarkets in person or eating in restaurants are, mask or not, taking bigger chances at catching or spreading the virus than I am. The cloth masks are not 100% effective so personally I do not take the risk. So who is acting in the safest manner????

Mask are not going to stop the virus, they may slow it down a bit, but it will spread until we reach herd immunity or an effective vaccine is developed.

Read this thread and you will understand.

Pecking order for pandemic lifestyle safety

[Bucco]

Nobody should be worrying. The change in reporting structure, taking it completely away from medical experts, will insure good positive numbers in the future.

No other reason to "go around" CDC, and allow "others" to get all numbers for reporting.

The improvement coming soon and continuing till November will be startling

[jmounset]

Agree!

[mk1126]

They all have to realize that this populace resides in "Bubbleland" where they can make up there own 'reality' (Alternate facts) and try and comfort themselves in them while trying to deny the science (Black sharpie anyone?) or tighten up for the time being under the economic conditions.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Bucco

Nobody should be worrying. The change in reporting structure, taking it completely away from medical experts, will insure good positive numbers in the future.

No other reason to "go around" CDC, and allow "others" to get all numbers for reporting.

The improvement coming soon and continuing till November will be startling

That change is very troubling indeed. It makes all of us cringe to see those Covid-19 numbers not being handled by the CDC.

We need so badly to have valid numbers available to us for our decision making. Most of us understand that those in charge are facing two terrible calamities; The Pandemic and extreme collapse of the national economy which also will cause death and further calamity. Novembers decisions changed for me the second that government leaders downplayed medical science. A sad day indeed.

I think most of us STRONGLY wish that we were allowed to evaluate the situation like adults with valid numbers and reputable people in science and government helping us.

[coconutmama]

Originally Posted by Dana1963

You should be thankful for a free media. Just because DJT doesn’t like the reporting does not mean it’s not true or so-called fake news

Totally agree!

[LSTOWELL]

Because the pandemic is real..those who don't believe so are not only Stupid but more than likely spreaderd

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

That change is very troubling indeed. It makes all of us cringe to see those Covid-19 numbers not being handled by the CDC.

We need so badly to have valid numbers available to us for our decision making. Most of us understand that those in charge are facing two terrible calamities; The Pandemic and extreme collapse of the national economy which also will cause death and further calamity. Novembers decisions changed for me the second that government leaders downplayed medical science. A sad day indeed.

I think most of us STRONGLY wish that we were allowed to evaluate the situation like adults with valid numbers and reputable people in science and government helping us.

The CDC gets their case and death numbers from each state, they are just an aggregator. If you want data from Florida or any other state, just go to their site.

[JoeinFL]

Originally Posted by JudyLife

Astonishing really that supposedly intelligent, educated people can argue with the scientific evidence out there, not to mention ignoring the fact that thousands in Italy, Spain, the UK AND the USA contracted this new virus and are now six feet under. Do you seriously believe the dead are ‘made up’?

Agreed. It seems several of the people posting are well educated. However, some have no common sense and pushing their own agendas.
137k people dead? Must be a media hoax.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by Bucco

We all know that with the recent change in reporting and bypassing CDC, the numbers will fade away.

Yep... the worse it gets, the farther we are pushed away from the truth.

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by Bucco
We all know that with the recent change in reporting and bypassing CDC, the numbers will fade away.

Originally Posted by CFrance

Yep... the worse it gets, the farther we are pushed away from the truth.

This is complete nonsense. The CDC just aggregates the numbers each individual State reports. Each State has it's own covid 19 data site. The numbers will continue to be available to everyone.

Perhaps you think all 50 states will engage in a conspiracy to lower their numbers?

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

Originally Posted by Bucco
We all know that with the recent change in reporting and bypassing CDC, the numbers will fade away.



This is complete nonsense. The CDC just aggregates the numbers each individual State reports. Each State has it's own covid 19 data site. The numbers will continue to be available to everyone.

Perhaps you think all 50 states will engage in a conspiracy to lower their numbers?

Hospitals Must Report COVID-19 Data To New System Instead Of CDC : Shots - Health News : NPR

White House to hospitals: Bypass CDC, report COVID-19 data directly to HHS | Healthcare IT News

Its the doggone media again.

White House Freezes CDC Out Of Covid Data Reporting, May Ask States To Use National Guard To Help

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

Originally Posted by Bucco
We all know that with the recent change in reporting and bypassing CDC, the numbers will fade away.



This is complete nonsense. The CDC just aggregates the numbers each individual State reports. Each State has it's own covid 19 data site. The numbers will continue to be available to everyone.

Perhaps you think all 50 states will engage in a conspiracy to lower their numbers?

Please explain how this is "complete nonsense". Each hospital BYPASSES CDC and reports to HHS, staffed with ????. National Guard will insure compliance.

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by CFrance

Yep... the worse it gets, the farther we are pushed away from the truth.

Originally Posted by Bucco

Hospitals Must Report COVID-19 Data To New System Instead Of CDC : Shots - Health News : NPR

White House to hospitals: Bypass CDC, report COVID-19 data directly to HHS | Healthcare IT News

Its the doggone media again.

White House Freezes CDC Out Of Covid Data Reporting, May Ask States To Use National Guard To Help

LOL more panic being spread in a thread about why people spread it.

It doesn't matter. The States all have their own sites where data on cases, deaths, hospitalizations etc is published for all to see. I can find out everything that's happening in Florida without ever going to CDC website. THIS IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE

The CDC website is just an aggregator of data and it's actually quite cumbersome to use. I hope the new system allows me to search for things better. This whole theme that the data is going to be corrupted is a joke. Besides all the individual State websites that publish all relevant data, there are tons of independent sites that do a very good job of aggregating national data.