[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

Some have observed that Individuals who have more education, greater life accomplishments, and respect for others are more likely to wear masks.

Sorry, but anyone that doesn’t understand the value and necessity of wearing masks by this point is simply a fool, and no amount of reasoning will make a difference in their behavior.

Why don’t you man up to issue on hand instead of insinuating only one point of view. Afraid to add number 10 to your poll.......I am trying to protect others and our economy by relying on our medical experts and advisors on what I can do to stop the spread. You have no respect for those that have died....real numbers, my friend.

I'm not making fun of people who wear masks. I am making fun of people who push pandemic panic to scare other people into wearing masks.

Personally, I don't use a mask because I don't go into any buildings other than my own home, and stay 20 feet from any people when I am outside my home. People that are older and have pre existing conditions who insist on going to supermarkets in person or eating in restaurants are, mask or not, taking bigger chances at catching or spreading the virus than I am. The cloth masks are not 100% effective so personally I do not take the risk. So who is acting in the safest manner????

Mask are not going to stop the virus, they may slow it down a bit, but it will spread until we reach herd immunity or an effective vaccine is developed.

Read this thread and you will understand.

Pecking order for pandemic lifestyle safety

Herd immunity and "pray away the gay" seem to reside on the same intelectual plane.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by mk1126

They all have to realize that this populace resides in "Bubbleland" where they can make up there own 'reality' (Alternate facts) and try and comfort themselves in them while trying to deny the science (Black sharpie anyone?) or tighten up for the time being under the economic conditions.

The famous sharpie incident is rapidly becoming a cult favorite!

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by taruffi57

You missed the everywhere news that the Glorida State Health Dept. has been VASTLY exaggerating COVID test positives and that labs have been reporting NO negatives. We are being scammed. (follow the money)

Scammed ?

Okay...a few things.....recall in FEBRUARY when we were told it was all under control, and would weaken by April ? (NOT by the Florida State Health Dept).....recall when we were told it would just leave and stop...nothing to worry about (NOT by the Florida State Health Dept)...recall when were told cases were going down (NOT by the Florida State Health Dept)...recall when we were told it was "fading away" ? (NOT by the Florida State Health Dept)..

I could go on and on with all we have been told and confused with.....these came from the same source that tells us how others mislead by the way.

Follow the money? Please explain that to me......detail on that.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

Originally Posted by Bucco
We all know that with the recent change in reporting and bypassing CDC, the numbers will fade away.



This is complete nonsense. The CDC just aggregates the numbers each individual State reports. Each State has it's own covid 19 data site. The numbers will continue to be available to everyone.

Perhaps you think all 50 states will engage in a conspiracy to lower their numbers?

And the reason for the change in reporting is WHAT ?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

Originally Posted by Bucco
We all know that with the recent change in reporting and bypassing CDC, the numbers will fade away.



This is complete nonsense. The CDC just aggregates the numbers each individual State reports. Each State has it's own covid 19 data site. The numbers will continue to be available to everyone.

Perhaps you think all 50 states will engage in a conspiracy to lower their numbers?

Yes! Florida has in the past and WILL even more in the future. Facts are frightening to leaders in China and Russia.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Don't know if it fits but it seems like MASS HYSTERIA is a factor. Many weaker individuals are prone to panic when the going gets a little difficult. But, you have proven in your other threads that you can't FIX it with facts.

Then the ? becomes - who is the weaker individual - the happy talkers with spurs or the real majority that accepted their draft papers?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Reading half the responses on here, it appears that Mass Hysteria is spreading it's ugly head. Gotta love the responses that suggest that they are "smarter and more educated" than you because they "believe" it is the end of the world.

I live in Sumter Co. and there have been 18 deaths total (or was it 17?). BUT, I believe there has only been 8 or 9 deaths in The Villages portion of Sumter Co. Not sure, because I have to rely on iffy reporting. 8 or 9 deaths in the past six months of this thing does not panic me. I wear my homemade mask like a good soldier and was even wearing gloves and eye protection when this thing started and we had less information to guide us. But, no matter how much precaution you take, there are always those that "KNOW" much more than us and are much more "educated" that will force their demands upon us, so as to protect them.

Infections go up as more testing data accumulates. That's just logical and for those that are "educated" it's "science." More importantly is the ratio of persons that test positive and are hospitalized and then add to that the amount of deaths and the actual dates of death. 8 or 9 deaths total suggests that we do not have as much problem here as in other areas, so we should look to see how we differ in our efforts. I shop about once a week for my spouse until things get better, but I see half of the other shoppers without masks. And yet, we still have a low mortality rate. Something to think about.

Florida had close to 14,000 cases recently in one day. How can "Bizzaro World" occupants deny that?

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Then the ? becomes - who is the weaker individual - the happy talkers with spurs or the real majority that accepted their draft papers?

Hmm, sounds like someone is talking about politics, not the subject. Is that being allowed now?

[BossLady]

Originally Posted by seoulbrooks

Agree 100%. Guess he can not read what has happened to the death rate here in Florida. Attempt to be funny not working.

Thank you for your US Military service SeoulBrooks.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Florida had close to 14,000 cases recently in one day. How can "Bizzaro World" occupants deny that?

I don't know, since I do not read comic books. Infections do not mean fatalities or even hospital stays, does it? I apologize if I do not get hysterical when viewing stats of 9 deaths in the Villages portion of Sumter county. When I first came to The Villages, I subscribed to the Sun and occasionally browsed the obits section. There was way more than 9 deaths reported at any given day on that paper. Did I get hysterical? Naw, not even if I recognized someone I knew.
But, if it makes some on here feel better, we can all get together and do a chorus of "the sky is fallin'"

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Byte1

I don't know, since I do not read comic books. Infections do not mean fatalities or even hospital stays, does it? I apologize if I do not get hysterical when viewing stats of 9 deaths in the Villages portion of Sumter county. When I first came to The Villages, I subscribed to the Sun and occasionally browsed the obits section. There was way more than 9 deaths reported at any given day on that paper. Did I get hysterical? Naw, not even if I recognized someone I knew.
But, if it makes some on here feel better, we can all get together and do a chorus of "the sky is fallin'"

Three people died today of Covid-19 in The Villages part of the three counties. One in each county. That puts the total number in Sumter County who died of Covid-19 at nineteen people who reportedly died of this particular bug, in the hospital, on a ventilator, without the comfort of having someone who cares about them and knows them well holding their hand and suffering too.

We all know that we have far fewer days and months and years than we used to, but no one wants to die alone in a hospital. I don't want to die at all, and this damned Covid-19 is a big deal and a source of concern (not hysteria) for those who have treasured friends who matter to them and who are older too.

We all have heard all the punchlines to the ribald jokes about how we want to die. Me? I'm not going to if I can avoid it right now.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Three people died today of Covid-19 in The Villages part of the three counties. One in each county. That puts the total number in Sumter County who died of Covid-19 at nineteen people who reportedly died of this particular bug, in the hospital, on a ventilator, without the comfort of having someone who cares about them and knows them well holding their hand and suffering too.

We all know that we have far fewer days and months and years than we used to, but no one wants to die alone in a hospital. I don't want to die at all, and this damned Covid-19 is a big deal and a source of concern (not hysteria) for those who have treasured friends who matter to them and who are older too.

We all have heard all the punchlines to the ribald jokes about how we want to die. Me? I'm not going to if I can avoid it right now.

Yes, I realize that is the number for the whole county of Sumter. I was referring to the Villages portion of Sumter Co. I believe the number is 8 or 9 deaths. I am not making little of deaths. I am merely wondering what might those seniors in The Villages be doing that has kept them from dying, not becoming infected. Because according to the testing centers, it would seem like most of those tested seem to come back positive. Makes one wonder how many FALSE positives are being posted. Anyway, what is it that seniors here are doing that are keeping them alive? Can't say it is wearing of masks because half the people I run into when shopping are not wearing masks. Are they getting out and getting more sunshine and fresh air, maybe? To me, 9 deaths in a population this size is amazing, considering the seriousness of this illness.

The fact is that more testing equals more positive test results. More testing does NOT equal more deaths or hospitalizations. Does anyone consider that?

[BHWitcher]

You forgot one.
They are too self centered to listen to the Dr. and stop being an ass.

[Byte1]

Simple facts (right?):
More testing has resulted in more positive results for infection.
More testing has NOT resulted in more hospitalizations.
More testing has NOT resulted in an increase in deaths.

Simple redneck summary:

The more test performed will increase the number of positive results for COVID infections.
The more tested will NOT necessarily increase the number of hospitalizations, although those with serious symptoms hospitalized will increase the totality of those tested positive.
The more tested positive reduces the ratio of deaths to infected.

Therefore, if other countries increase their testing, they will see a decrease in the ratio of deaths per infected.

Notice in this redneck calculation, I am not suggesting that deaths will decrease, just that the ratio of death to infected will decrease. Just numbers. Deaths are deaths and you can't change the raw number on that.

In order to make a decent calculation of how this virus is working, you would have to test everyone at the same time, and then test everyone again at another time. If you test a hundred today and then a hundred thousand tomorrow, you will have a spike in positive tests.....likely, unless the virus suddenly disappears.

The only sure statement of this virus is based on deaths, not tests and not infections. The only other stat that matters is how many hospitalizations, because if someone is infected does not mean they will be hospitalized. I've heard of folks being tested several times with negative results but have all the symptoms and many that have been tested many times with positive results with no symptoms.

But, I have gone off the subject which is why some folks spread panic.

[Hole-in-one]

You realize that over 302,000 people have been Diagnosed with Covid in Florida.