[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Northwoods

MSM: "It was mostly a peaceful protest."

And the fire was they had some marshmellows to toast no big deal.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Skunky1

If A civilian/coward shot somebody in the back and they were caught on video they would be in jail immediately. There would be no attempt to white wash what they did.

Put yourself in the officers shoes and go thru what he did and lets see if you say the same thing again.

[justjim]

Gangs have been in large cities for years. This isn’t anything new. I’m originally from Illinois and know a little about Chicago. What’s different today is you got the gangs, the police, the peaceful protesters, looters, and outsiders all mixed together on the streets at the same time. Then you have people that think they have the answer and some that want to make it political. There is no one answer. Do you think the Mayors of these cities want this? The Mayors are doing the best they can. It’s not a job I would want for sure. “He has a right to criticize, who has the heart to help.” Abraham Lincoln

[Scorpyo]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Put yourself in the officers shoes and go thru what he did and lets see if you say the same thing again.

Okay let me analyze your statement. First of all, he/she could not fit in the officers shoes and could never do his job. As for someone calling this officer a coward - well, sorry I can't reply to that statement on this site. Secondly, let's imagine this person going through what the officer went through. Suspect resists arrest; suspect has a knife; suspect crawls into car. The only time I would crawl into a car is if I had way too much to drink or I was looking for something. Suspect is told to stop over a dozen times. He was probably reaching for something or appeared to be reaching for something. Cop shoots. The person you responded to, on the other hand, would have probably handled it differently and said (with his/her gun holstered), "sir we're trying to arrest you, how does that make you feel?" And that would have probably been the last thing he/she said. But we would never have heard about that because it would not have made the news.

[VillageLiberal]

Originally Posted by donassaid

Apparently, BLM uses any action by any color police officer against any black criminal as racist and a reason to inflict violence, looting and burning. These people are not "protesters" but CRIMINALS.

According to the Center for Strategic and International Studies (The Escalating Terrorism Problem in the United States | Center for Strategic and International Studies), White Supremacists' like the boogaloo boys are a larger problem than the BLM folks. It a known fact now, even though we all suspected it, that the "Umbrella Man" at the Minnesota protests, who started breaking windows which lead to fires, was a White Supremacist. They see an opportunity to mingle in with the peaceful protestors and turn it violent. But you won't hear this on Fox News.

According to CSIS "The United States faces a growing terrorism problem that will likely worsen over the next year. Based on a CSIS data set of terrorist incidents, the most significant threat likely comes from white supremacists, though anarchists and religious extremists inspired by the Islamic State and al-Qaeda could present a potential threat as well. Over the rest of 2020, the terrorist threat in the United States will likely rise based on several factors, including the November 2020 presidential election"

"On June 3, 2020, federal authorities arrested three individuals allegedly associated with the “boogaloo” movement, a loosely-organized group of extremists preparing for a civil war, for conspiring to cause violence in Las Vegas and possessing an improvised incendiary device.1 Less than a week later, law enforcement officials near Richmond, VA, arrested Harry H. Rogers, a member of the Ku Klux Klan, for driving a vehicle into peaceful protesters. Around the same time, members of a Brooklyn anarchist group urged its supporters to conduct “rebellion” against the government.2 Extremists from all sides flooded social media with disinformation, conspiracy theories, and incitements to violence in response to the protests following the death of George Floyd, swamping Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, and other platforms.3"

[skarra]

Originally Posted by VillageLiberal

According to the Center for Strategic and International Studies (The Escalating Terrorism Problem in the United States | Center for Strategic and International Studies), White Supremacists' like the boogaloo boys are a larger problem than the BLM folks. It a known fact now, even though we all suspected it, that the "Umbrella Man" at the Minnesota protests, who started breaking windows which lead to fires, was a White Supremacist. They see an opportunity to mingle in with the peaceful protestors and turn it violent. But you won't hear this on Fox News.

According to CSIS "The United States faces a growing terrorism problem that will likely worsen over the next year. Based on a CSIS data set of terrorist incidents, the most significant threat likely comes from white supremacists, though anarchists and religious extremists inspired by the Islamic State and al-Qaeda could present a potential threat as well. Over the rest of 2020, the terrorist threat in the United States will likely rise based on several factors, including the November 2020 presidential election"

"On June 3, 2020, federal authorities arrested three individuals allegedly associated with the “boogaloo” movement, a loosely-organized group of extremists preparing for a civil war, for conspiring to cause violence in Las Vegas and possessing an improvised incendiary device.1 Less than a week later, law enforcement officials near Richmond, VA, arrested Harry H. Rogers, a member of the Ku Klux Klan, for driving a vehicle into peaceful protesters. Around the same time, members of a Brooklyn anarchist group urged its supporters to conduct “rebellion” against the government.2 Extremists from all sides flooded social media with disinformation, conspiracy theories, and incitements to violence in response to the protests following the death of George Floyd, swamping Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, and other platforms.3"

I suspect that our countries addiction to cheap labor is what ultimately leads to all these problems. Whether bringing slaves on boats to pick cotten, or enabling Mexican people to cross the border so they can pick our fruit and vegetables that we all eat, or provide care for our children and elderly, we like cheap labor at whatever the human cost.

I think it's ironic that after doing all that white people complain about the consequences - our new multi-cultural society - and try to rig it so all these non-white citizens are denied the ability to vote by creating new obstacles.

USPS is going down the tubes (my NetFlix mail is now consistently taking 1 day longer to get to me - from 2 days to 3 days) and Social Security is under attack as well (it's now openly being discussed that by 2023 it could be shut down). All the institutions are being dismantled - but big corporations and the rich are enjoying their tax breaks.

Wake up sheeple. We're like frogs sitting in a pot of water that is slowly being brought to a boil.

[rlcooper70]

Pretty sick ... reflection of our society today. May have started as a joke ... saw something about the right to defend one's property "if a man with a gun came onto it do you have a right to shoot him?" And "should a black man feel threatened if a white cop comes onto his property?" .... Partisanship leads us to bad outcomes. And it is being inflamed currently. Very sad.

[GreySkies]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

When the politicians are affected by the arson and looting than they will stop approving of it. After all they cannot be inconvenienced can they.

Accurate observation, however it will NEVER happen....

You see, the vast majority of the population that is primarily active in the looting and violence in the name of "justice" (yea, I'll buy that for a $1) have a historical track record in primarily buring, looting and destroying their OWN neighborhoods.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Art cov

Most all cities in America don’t have enough police on their force. Can you imagine being a policeman in the cities today? Mayors in some places do not have their cops back, in fact encourage terrible behavior until they are threatened and rioting comes close to their homes. I recently ran into the owner of an (army/navy type store) he sells camping n survival stuff. He told me that many are joining groups that have a mission to protect their towns n small cities from rioters and those that might attempt to destroy their city. I personally would protect my family and myself from harm but he said many groups he knows of from 6 people to 1500 people have had enough! They will cause no harm to anyone but will protect from gangs and destructive groups who want to cause havoc. He went on to say, stores around the country can sell tons of ammunition and such items if they could get it. I was taken back somewhat as I know he’s a man to be honest and sincere. What could we be in for on our streets? These folks are not the thugs but good people who are organized to protect. They say the police won’t be able to do it. Has anyone heard about all this? I guess I’m in my own little bubble and need to be better informed if this man is right

Well, we, the whole US, are in a period of social unrest. Unrest and violence is being "stoked" by various groups. The end result is greater sales of guns and ammo. The price of ammo has probably (?) skyrocketed. I, personally, have not changed much, but I do NOT own a small business. That might make me want to "arm up" more and join self-defense groups. But, like anything else there would be a DOWNSIDE to that. Para-military groups can over-react and cause more harm than good. If a particular para-military group COULD (?) maintain purely defensive and minimally violent in their defense positions to protect stores and other businesses, that could be POSITIVE. But, that could backfire since they would not be professionally trained and might get "trigger-happy". As of today, in MOST of the US of A. Civilian militias are NOT yet needed. I will prefer to leave it to the professional Police and, when necessary, the National Guard.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by skarra

I suspect that our countries addiction to cheap labor is what ultimately leads to all these problems. Whether bringing slaves on boats to pick cotten, or enabling Mexican people to cross the border so they can pick our fruit and vegetables that we all eat, or provide care for our children and elderly, we like cheap labor at whatever the human cost.

I think it's ironic that after doing all that white people complain about the consequences - our new multi-cultural society - and try to rig it so all these non-white citizens are denied the ability to vote by creating new obstacles.

USPS is going down the tubes (my NetFlix mail is now consistently taking 1 day longer to get to me - from 2 days to 3 days) and Social Security is under attack as well (it's now openly being discussed that by 2023 it could be shut down). All the institutions are being dismantled - but big corporations and the rich are enjoying their tax breaks.

Wake up sheeple. We're like frogs sitting in a pot of water that is slowly being brought to a boil.

Good post.

[Kerry Azz]

7 shots in the back?

[Number 10 GI]

Originally Posted by VillageLiberal

I was just telling a friend that I never remember there being such a cultism behind a politician, while I'm relatively young, I don't recall people flying flags from their houses, cars, hanging them in their lania's, etc..., it certainly seems like a cult to me.

It was quite prevalent where I grew up in the mid west in the 50's and 60's.

[VillageLiberal]

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI

Use ridiculous hyperbole much? You didn't answer as to why you believe that it is no problem in ruining a person's business and their life's work because insurance will cover it. Go back and read your post, that is exactly what you said. Again, pretty disgusting.

I actually apologize, I had a couple beers at the Cane Garden Country Club when I responded earlier and on rereading my response it didn't read well. Your point is valid but the question is, in the situation to kill one looter, running away smiling with a television appropriate justice for the crime? Heck we see on videos of groups of people mass looting, should we just setup a firing squad outside of Walmart and shoot everyone who comes running out carrying something? I believe that many here would love to see that, but is that the appropriate justice?

Lets flip the scenario, how about all the farmers that lost their farms due to the tariffs put in place? or all the people who lost their love ones because someone refused to embrace wearing a mask or failed at deploying nationwide testing? Should someone be held accountable because these farmers lost their livelihoods, ruined their businesses or loved ones were lost? It being the action of one person that caused these farmers to lose their farms, it being the action that resulted in these people losing their lives to COVID? should that person be held accountable? Also, how about the 27 trillion in debt? Is wasn't that long ago that it was 15 trillion and people were losing their collective minds, claiming that much debt was destroying our country, where did those people go?

[VillageLiberal]

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI

It was quite prevalent where I grew up in the mid west in the 50's and 60's.

I was born in early 60's so definitely before I was aware of the political cycle, I will have to go back and check it out on the history channel. Certainly seems strange to me here and now.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by VillageLiberal

I was just telling a friend that I never remember there being such a cultism behind a politician, while I'm relatively young, I don't recall people flying flags from their houses, cars, hanging them in their lania's, etc..., it certainly seems like a cult to me.

When I was a kid, my father hung a HUGE poster of JFK in our dining room picture window. The poster was nearly as large as the window with a picture of JFK. This is nothing new.