[Aces4]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

No I haven't but I have a basic idea.

An ace is an ace. If you can only get 11 aces in 20 years, and I can get 11 aces in the same 20 years, on the same course, then if we're playing a game where an ace matters, we'd be evenly matched. And it wouldn't matter how long your drive is, whether you use irons or woods or sand wedges or whatever other fancy doodads you have. It wouldn't matter if you have 4 more muscles than I have, or if you're playing with an eyepatch covering one eye. If we are both capable of the exact same thing, no more than the other, then we are evenly matched.

If you are more capable than I am, then we're not evenly matched. You'd go be with a group of people who are more capable. I'd be with a group that is less capable. And that might include men. It might include transgenders. It might include men who identify as women but are still men, and women who identify as men but are still women. I don't care who it is. I don't care how tall, short, fat, thin they are, whether their boobs are bigger or smaller than mine, or whether they pee standing up or copping a squat. I care only that we are evenly matched in ability.

What a convoluted train of thought. Who would ever play a sport with this theory, it would take a year to sort everything out before the sport could begin.

[Becca9800]

@OrangeBlossomBaby, give it up, you've lost this one.

[stanley]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

No I haven't but I have a basic idea.

An ace is an ace. If you can only get 11 aces in 20 years, and I can get 11 aces in the same 20 years, on the same course, then if we're playing a game where an ace matters, we'd be evenly matched. And it wouldn't matter how long your drive is, whether you use irons or woods or sand wedges or whatever other fancy doodads you have. It wouldn't matter if you have 4 more muscles than I have, or if you're playing with an eyepatch covering one eye. If we are both capable of the exact same thing, no more than the other, then we are evenly matched.

If you are more capable than I am, then we're not evenly matched. You'd go be with a group of people who are more capable. I'd be with a group that is less capable. And that might include men. It might include transgenders. It might include men who identify as women but are still men, and women who identify as men but are still women. I don't care who it is. I don't care how tall, short, fat, thin they are, whether their boobs are bigger or smaller than mine, or whether they pee standing up or copping a squat. I care only that we are evenly matched in ability.

There's a saying, I think by W C Fields...............
"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullsh-t."

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

And again - I refer you to the word "ability."

Ability doesn't equate with size.

A 13-year-old 100-pound 5'0" geeky girl with a 170iq is no less able to do things that require a high IQ than a 30-year-old 170-pound 5'10" guy who has a perfect 6-pack and can lift 240 pounds with one hand.

A short, slender, agile but not muscular amateur league golfer female who has 20 years experience playing and has 11 holes in one recorded in league play, is no less capable of being on a man's league than a heavier, taller, more muscular male with 20 years of experience playing with 11 holes in one recorded in league play.

A female bowler with a 235 average is no less capable of bowling a 300 than a male bowler with a 235 average.

Two unique cases does not prove your point...

Ability, in most sports most certainly does differ due to size and strength...

YOU were the one who insisted we separate people based on size ("like they do in boxing"), remember?

Oh, and 11 holes in one? Sheer luck. Any pro will tell you that. Yes, they can get it close to the pin, but putting it in the hole is luck... I've either hit the pin, or rolled it past by and inch countless times in my 50 years of playing golf. It's just never dropped in... yet...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

There are female pro golfers who put some of those pro male golfers to shame. Being able to hit far doesn't mean being able to hit accurately.

That is absolute BS...

Michelle Wei tried to play on the men's tour... She was crushed...

Several others have played with men in exhibitions. Same result...

I'm not saying that women aren't good golfers. Some of them are great... Just like some men are great golfers...

But as a rule, they cannot compete with men due to physical limitations...

Anika Sorenstam tried it in 2003. Top female golfer in the world at the time. She missed the cut...

Annika Sorenstam plays at Colonial, 2003 - Golf Monthly

[bobdeb]

Is this the end of women's sports.

Is This the End of Women's Sports? - YouTube

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by bobdeb

Is this the end of women's sports.

Is This the End of Women's Sports? - YouTube

She echos exactly what I've been saying all along...

[Boomer]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

She echos exactly what I've been saying all along...

Echoes seem to be your specialty.

Don't worry. Women will get this taken care of.

The answer is to get it done with common sense not cruelty.

Boomer (whose post-pandemic, newly embraced, silver hair and sassy new haircut seem to be making her even more of a smartazz than she used to be)

[Boomer]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

I have no problem with blokes cutting off their wedding tackle and calling themselves Karen or whatever.
But.
If I were a ladies Pro Golfer I would raise holy heck to get them banned from competing in womens events.
It is not fair competition however you dress the situation (or him) up!
JMHO.

Two Bills,

I just want to thank you for adding to my vocabulary. I never heard of "wedding tackle" before -- but I know what it is when I see it.

A while back, I learned the phrase "popping your clogs" from you.

I love learning new phrases like this.

I watched Ted Lasso, a delightful tale, and learned some new expressions from it. One of them (what the fans kept calling him) I had to look up on Google. I have added that one to my vocabulary, too.

Sincerely thankful,
Boomer

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Boomer

Echoes seem to be your specialty.

Don't worry. Women will get this taken care of.

The answer is to get it done with common sense not cruelty.

Boomer (whose post-pandemic, newly embraced, silver hair and sassy new haircut seem to be making her even more of a smartazz than she used to be)

Do tell...

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Do tell...

Seems the solution is clear:

Ban all professional sports. Amateurs only, no pay.

Problem solved.

[stanley]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Seems the solution is clear:

Ban all professional sports. Amateurs only, no pay.

Problem solved.

And everyone gets a trophy

[Boomer]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

She echos exactly what I've been saying all along...

Originally Posted by Boomer

Echoes seem to be your specialty.

Don't worry. Women will get this taken care of.

The answer is to get it done with common sense not cruelty.

Boomer (whose post-pandemic, newly embraced, silver hair and sassy new haircut seem to be making her even more of a smartazz than she used to be)

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Do tell...

Nope. Like K. T. Oslin wrote in the lyrics of one of my favorite country songs — “I’m too purdy to waste my time. . .”

Boomer

[Tom52]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Seems the solution is clear:

Ban all professional sports. Amateurs only, no pay.

Problem solved.

Not so sure the 12,000 professional athletes or the 150,000 employed in the spectator sports industry in USA would agree with your proposal. Seems so much less radical to keep men's and women's sports separated.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Seems the solution is clear:

Ban all professional sports. Amateurs only, no pay.

Problem solved.

Payments are not part of the problem...

The problem exists in HS and College sports, as well...

Did you bother to watch the video posted earlier? It was posted by a HS girl...