True, but many people would like to travel beyond Florida.....

I agree, but really isn't it common sense?
Think about it, you got the vaccine, you HAVE the card, just show it. Almost like getting proofed at a bar....prove your status.
But then there is the issue of losing the card, damage etc. ( I'm sorry, but whomever designed it wasn't thinking straight)...won't fit in my wallet, now thats going to lead to curled edges, putting it into pants pocket, purse pouch, all which will increase damage to it, or leaving on dresser etc,etc...all because of design. Maybe it should of been laminated like our licenses?
Better yet, maybe we all should be tattooed!!!!!
(Talk about stirring a pot)

Anyway, got my vaccine, got my card...I'm proud and if you wanna see it, I'd be happy to flash you.������

The FEDERAL gov't is floating the idea of vaccine passports and a STATE gov't is saying "no, not here".

Love it... HAHAHAHA:coolsmiley::coolsmiley:

Those particular healthcare "experts" need to have their licenses revoked (if they even have a license).

The "garden-variety" flu is estimated to cause 35,000 US deaths per year. Covid is known to have caused nearly 500,000 deaths last year over and above the normal number of deaths expected in a single year. Whatever Covid is, it is NOT a garden-variety flu.

no brainer
 

Personal responsibility: what a concept!

Yes, the vaccines are allowed to be used under an emergency use authorization. But to imply that they are unsafe or that they have not undergone testing and review *is* nonsense.

I definitely support showing vaccines were given! Just like a Drivers License or Village ID but saving lives at least for the next 6-9 months. This thing is NOT over yet!

Today vaccination passport Tomorrow passport to leave your home. Too much government control.

I totally agree with our governor’s decision

When do people take responsible for themselves and quit pointing fingers it must make people sleep better at night when they can blame others for this and that and feel fully justified with their hate and anger.

I never said they were unsafe or implied anything I simply corrected the statement that the vaccines are FDA approved, as they are not and that is not “nonsense!”

If the Governor prohibits any business from requiring a vaccine passport, will the cruise industry find ports outside of Florida to base their cruises? After seeing what happened on the Princess ship last year, I am a proponent of showing proof that you have had the vaccine before getting on a ship. BTW, I have traveled to all 7 continents and have had a yellow vaccination record for the past 45 years showing my vaccinations against typhus, typhoid, cholera, yellow fever, tetanus, etc. I think the only vaccination I haven't gotten is for rabies - though I am beginning to have second thoughts after seeing some of the rabid responses here.

Thank you

Your "information" is incorrect. Where did you get it? The medical experts (not the pillow guy or Scott Atlas, a radiologist) have said that the vaccine effectiveness will protect you from being seriously ill or hospitalized. They state that it is too early to say that people who have contracted Covid 19 will not pass it to someone else. Florida governor (aka Mini Me) as usual doesn't know what he is talking about. How is a vaccine verification card different than having a passport or driver's license?

Yes we need travel documents to go state to state can’t wait until we change our flag to USSA United Socialist State’s of American
Not!

They need the vaccine also because their immunity is short lived while the vaccine works longer.

The joke is that he wants the cruise industry back and they require the vaccine. Oxymoron or just plain old moron?

You will probably be doing a lot of driving as they will probably put themselves out of business.

I am totally opposed to vaccine passports. While we can’t control what other countries may require, we can in this country. It is against our God given rights guaranteed in the Constitution, to force individuals to put a chemical in their bodies just to be able to move around the country. I don’t want to be the Guinea Pig for a new and unproven technology. The simple fact is, if you take the vaccine you’re protected. If you don’t, then it’s your problem if you get sick and potentially die. However, the government has no right to force this decision. We are already moving way too fast to be the next Soviet Union.

Someone will sue, it'll go to SCOTUS, where it will most likely be found to be unconstitutional...

DeSantis' mandate is for use in Florida... Not "beyond Florida"...

Sorry but you have it all wrong
 

You are definitely off base here. I am conservative and do not want the government or anyone else to stick their nose into my business. The idea of a vaccine passport is Orwellian. If you have your shot why do you care if I have one or not? It's none of your business.

PLEASE NO! ;)

Those cardboard cards will be forged in record time...

Let's hope so!

500K people died "with" Covid, not "due to" Covid...

People are already forging vaccine cards and negative COVID tests. The passports will be the same. Don’t kid yourself.

You really think it will only be required for the "next 6-9 months"?

Once you give up a freedom, try getting it back...

How can anyone be a "fan" of DeathSantis?

Wasn't there a country that required papers to move around their country in the late thirties and early forties?
No thank you, I like my independence and freedom.

Read it again, Jswirs... "Conservatives are not fond of government interference in general, but they support this proposal" <to ban vaccine passports>. That's the whole point of this thread.

In other words, conservatives are supporting the government interfering with restaurants, offices and other businesses by not letting them have the freedom to choose who they serve. This is contrary to basic conservative ideals.

only COVID ??
 

and what happens when a new strain is identified - do we go through the same process?

I like what you had to say..thanks

Based on the never ending news we’re told the minority population of color are not stepping up for a vaccine. Forcing vaccine passports will create yet another issue impacting their life’s.

What’s next numbers tattooed on our foreheads

Oh, I dunno... Maybe because he prioritized protecting the most vulnerable in his state and has a much better outcome than either NY or CA?

You can choose to get vaccinated or not - do as you choose. However, you will be required to show proof of vaccination to travel internationally (and probably to cruise too). So, even if the "passport" does not gain enough support domestically to come to fruition, it absolutely will internationally (and probably at Disney too). Thus, you may be required to get a vaccine to do something that you want to do - whether you support the vaccine or not. Again, an individual choice - get a vaccine or don't go on that European adventure - your choice. This is NOT new BTW - you are required to get (and show proof of) certain vaccines to enter many countries already! Parents are required to show proof of vaccination to enroll their children in school or camp, and this vaccine will just be one more added to that already long list. I don't understand why this is such a heated and political issue - when your doctor says you need to get your Shingles vaccine or your Pneumococcal vaccine you just go to the front desk to make an appointment...

From what I have read, in the future we are going to need proof of vaccination for travel purposes - especially out of the USA. It is what it is. I'd rather Desantis focus on more serious concerns!

Close but no cigar
 

Great point but the facts are a little lacking.

Let us use CDC’s own numbers back in 8/2020. It had been reported that about 165,000 people in the USA expired from COVID-19. CDC admitted that the tabulation criteria were wrong and only about 6% of those were C-19 deaths. The remainder were folks who died and the pathogen was found in their blood. So the number was actually less than 10,000.
Now coupled that with testing that had up to 40% false positives and if further reduces the number. Don’t believe it? Well a week after the inauguration the CDC and the WHO recommended changes in the testing to reduce the number of false positives in the interest of improved accuracy.
You don’t hear much of that in the mass media do you?

You see they are using numbers from an inaccurate testing system and they purposely utilize the wrong words. They should be using “died WITH C-19 in their system” NOT “died FROM C-19”. There is a difference and they know it.
EVEN WITH THE BAD TESTS, 99% of those who contract it, recover, conclusion, we surrendered our freedom, our rights and our economy for something with less than 1% fatality rate AND that is IF you get this 5% contagion pathogen.

The Office of Management & Budget has investigated the CDC reporting anc found ghat they created their own reporting system for C-19 which is a violation of at least two legislative acts and this is why the CDC since late last year has been revising the numbers. But still the media is not covering those releases.

How about another amendment for upholding the safety and Public Health of citizens during a global pandemic?

Hey Bay, why are you spreading that propaganda and hyperbole here? You've been on TOTV long enough to know 2 things:

1. We talk endlessly about how the media spews misinformation to try to brainwash us.

2. TOTV readers are exceptionally gullible (which might have something to do with how easy it is for the media to brainwash some of us). Some even believe gullible is not in the dictionary, or try to refute it that it is not.