[jamorela]

“ I also favor mandatory vaccination, with those who refuse the vaccine required to pay for all their own medical bills if they get COVID-19 and have to be hospitalized”

Wow! That’s all I can say to that response!

[Beyond The Wall]

Originally Posted by Tmarkwald

And mandatory vaccination have been upheld several times by the Supreme Court in the interest of public safety.

And the Supreme Court is always right

[Tmarkwald]

I'll just say this - nobody is, or intends to, wear a mask at the squares in an effort to protect the anti-vaxxers from contracting the virus.

That is blatantly obvious. If you refuse to get vaccinated, then be prepared for the possible consequences. I saw a friend die from lung cancer at 60. He asked me if I had quit smoking, which I had 20 years earlier. He said he wished he had quit as well.

I couldn't get him to quit, the same way I can't get an anti-vaxxer to get a vaccine.

So, there will be people, anti-vaxxers - on their death beds wishing they'd made different choices in life.

IMHO

[Debbraham]

Originally Posted by C. C. Rider

The idea of "vaccine passports" is contradictory with what the vaccine advocates contend is true. They contend that people who get the vaccine will be safe from catching and transmitting the virus. If this premise is true, then they should have no worry about being around someone who hasn't had the vaccine. Perhaps the person had the virus and recovered with no problems... in which case, their immunity is probably as good as someone who had the vaccine. Even if they haven't had the virus, the unvaccinated person is the one at greater risk by being there than the vaccinated person, so why should they be prohibited from any public place?

I would like to be able to show a vaccine passport in order to fly back into the country without having to have mandatory test. Seems like if you are vaccinated you shouldn’t have to still have a test.

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by Tmarkwald

Urban legend. The vaccine has been around for over 10 years - it was developed for SARS and MERS. Which is what Covid is a derivative of. Plenty of testing.

You need to stop posting this. It is absolutely untrue. There has never been a vaccine for either SARS or MERS. There were attempts to create a vaccine for them, but they were unsuccessful. It is true that both SARS and MERS were Coronaviruses, but it is also true that without a vaccine SARS lasted less than 2 years and the MERS outbreak lasted less than 3 years...

[jbrown132]

Originally Posted by LiverpoolWalrus

I'd like to respectfully throw something out there for discussion and perhaps we can learn a bit from each other.

Our governor has said he will prohibit vaccine passports which would require us to prove we've been vaccinated in order to gain access to some businesses, offices, or restaurants.

I find it interesting because it speaks to how we all want the best for our country; we just approach it in different ways. Conservatives are not fond of government interference in general, but they support this proposal. Liberals are generally okay with government regulation but do indeed want a vaccine passport which DeSantis is opposing.

Just goes to show modern American life is not all cut and dried. We all have to give a little.

If you want to respond but feel the need to be belligerent or snarky, please move on to the next thread. Thanks.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis Says He'll Ban Vaccine Passports

In this case I totally support what the Governor says. Every time the government does something like this we give up some of our freedoms. It allows the government to track out movements and infringes on doctor patient confidentiality. What’s next, a flu passport, a polio passport, a measles passport for kids to go to school etc. Enough is enough.

[Andyb]

Wrong, it is an individual issue.

[jamorela]

For those of you who feel no one should be allowed to travel without the vaccine... I got the first shot. Had an allergic reaction (immediate rash on face and arms.). I have had an anaphylactic response to a drug in the past. Three doctors and a nurse recommended that I do not get the second shot because “it is not worth the risk!” So, I didn’t. So, should I not be allowed to do something I love? PS: My cheeks and chin have a permanent rosy color to them since that shot on January 4. It’s like they have been permanently burned.

[Tmarkwald]

Originally Posted by Debbraham

I would like to be able to show a vaccine passport in order to fly back into the country without having to have mandatory test. Seems like if you are vaccinated you shouldn’t have to still have a test.

agreed!

[maggie1]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

Masks primarily protect those around the wearer. Since many people have not been able to get the vaccine as of this time, I'll continue to wear a mask indoors in public places out of respect for my fellow humans.

I've had both doses but from what I understand, I can still contract the virus and pass it on to others. Once everyone in the state of Florida that wants to be vaccinated has been, I will stop wearing a mask. At that point, as you say, people have made a choice it is not my responsibility to protect them.

My point, exactly, but then you have the following post by someone who believes the vaccine will change DNA, and is responsible for other maladies.


Originally Posted by Eg_cruz View Post
I am sorry but, I am not one that is jumping on the “Shot that has no long term study band wagon” everyone has the right to choose what the think is best for them. For 20 years I have been leery of vaccines so, to have one without really knowing the true How, What and When is confusing to me. I am a very low risk because of my lifestyle so why should I have to be forced to get something that goes against my beliefs because something may or may not work?

Here’s the big question people have been getting very sick from this shots......has anyone ask Why, it’s not because it has the virus in it so why are some sick for 6-7 days, Why are people getting fevers and nerve pain. Unlike the flu shot where it has the viruses in it the Covid-19 does not so then why (other then egg allergy ) people getting sick? Does that not brother anyone?
I am happy that our governor is not jumping on the crazy vaccine passport.

[Tmarkwald]

Originally Posted by jamorela

For those of you who feel no one should be allowed to travel without the vaccine... I got the first shot. Had an allergic reaction (immediate rash on face and arms.). I have had an anaphylactic response to a drug in the past. Three doctors and a nurse recommended that I do not get the second shot because “it is not worth the risk!” So, I didn’t. So, should I not be allowed to do something I love? PS: My cheeks and chin have a permanent rosy color to them since that shot on January 4. It’s like they have been permanently burned.

So, they are required to ask you if you've had an anaphylactic response in the past.. If you have, then you get the J&J vaccine. Only the Moderna and Pfizer give that response.

So, you didn't mention that to them when they asked? It is right on the paper they gave you with your card as well..

[Tmarkwald]

Originally Posted by jamorela

“ I also favor mandatory vaccination, with those who refuse the vaccine required to pay for all their own medical bills if they get COVID-19 and have to be hospitalized”

Wow! That’s all I can say to that response!

Absolutely! You've got a vaccine that mitigates the risk. You should shoulder 100% of the costs. Definately! Otherwise it's people like us busting our tails to send money to the irresponsible liberal states to spend.

[Tmarkwald]

Originally Posted by Swoop

You need to stop posting this. It is absolutely untrue. There has never been a vaccine for either SARS or MERS. There were attempts to create a vaccine for them, but they were unsuccessful. It is true that both SARS and MERS were Coronaviruses, but it is also true that without a vaccine SARS lasted less than 2 years and the MERS outbreak lasted less than 3 years...

Coronavirus vaccine development: from SARS and MERS to COVID-19

Coronavirus vaccine development: from SARS and MERS to COVID-19 - PubMed

[SusanKD]

I’m against having to carry a proof vaccination. Next thing you know their will be other restrictions on where we allow to go or do base on government decision not our own.

[Bay Kid]

Don't worry, if you come across the southern border you are free to do whatever. No vaccine or 6' distance necessary, mask maybe if in a group of 6 or less. If sick free medical care. Come on in.