[Tmarkwald]

Originally Posted by jmintzer5

Um, I do believe you have this completely backwards...

The GOP is against the Vaccine Passport. In fact, DeSantis is passing a law specifically denying it's use in Florida...

True, but many people would like to travel beyond Florida.....

[Spalumbos62]

Originally Posted by Tmarkwald

Gullible isn't the right word. Concerned citizen, maybe. For a virus that has killed millions, it's intelligent, not gullible..

I agree, but really isn't it common sense?
Think about it, you got the vaccine, you HAVE the card, just show it. Almost like getting proofed at a bar....prove your status.
But then there is the issue of losing the card, damage etc. ( I'm sorry, but whomever designed it wasn't thinking straight)...won't fit in my wallet, now thats going to lead to curled edges, putting it into pants pocket, purse pouch, all which will increase damage to it, or leaving on dresser etc,etc...all because of design. Maybe it should of been laminated like our licenses?
Better yet, maybe we all should be tattooed!!!!!
(Talk about stirring a pot)

Anyway, got my vaccine, got my card...I'm proud and if you wanna see it, I'd be happy to flash you.������

[meridian5850]

Originally Posted by LiverpoolWalrus

I'd like to respectfully throw something out there for discussion and perhaps we can learn a bit from each other.

Our governor has said he will prohibit vaccine passports which would require us to prove we've been vaccinated in order to gain access to some businesses, offices, or restaurants.

I find it interesting because it speaks to how we all want the best for our country; we just approach it in different ways. Conservatives are not fond of government interference in general, but they support this proposal. Liberals are generally okay with government regulation but do indeed want a vaccine passport which DeSantis is opposing.

Just goes to show modern American life is not all cut and dried. We all have to give a little.

If you want to respond but feel the need to be belligerent or snarky, please move on to the next thread. Thanks.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis Says He'll Ban Vaccine Passports

The FEDERAL gov't is floating the idea of vaccine passports and a STATE gov't is saying "no, not here".

[Tmarkwald]

Originally Posted by Spalumbos62

I agree, but really isn't it common sense?
Think about it, you got the vaccine, you HAVE the card, just show it. Almost like getting proofed at a bar....prove your status.
But then there is the issue of losing the card, damage etc. ( I'm sorry, but whomever designed it wasn't thinking straight)...won't fit in my wallet, now thats going to lead to curled edges, putting it into pants pocket, purse pouch, all which will increase damage to it, or leaving on dresser etc,etc...all because of design. Maybe it should of been laminated like our licenses?
Better yet, maybe we all should be tatoo!!!!!
(Talk about stirring a pot)

Anyway way, got my vaccine, got my card...I'm proud and if you wanna see it, I'd be happy to flash you.😁

Love it... HAHAHAHA

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by DeeCee Dubya

I am much more afraid of the eagerness of citizens all over the world to blindly and unquestionably bow to government bureaucrats than I am of any virus.

Also consider this; if you know anything about biology you’ll know that viruses constantly mutate and adapt to threats ie. Vaccines. And COVID-19 will be no different. So you better get ready for re-vaccinations about every flu season from now on.

This is nothing more than a garden-variety flu virus which many healthcare experts confirm. It has been used as a proxy for government to control every aspect of human life and justify their own parasitic existence. People wake up please.

Those particular healthcare "experts" need to have their licenses revoked (if they even have a license).

The "garden-variety" flu is estimated to cause 35,000 US deaths per year. Covid is known to have caused nearly 500,000 deaths last year over and above the normal number of deaths expected in a single year. Whatever Covid is, it is NOT a garden-variety flu.

[donfey]

Originally Posted by C. C. Rider

To expand on what I said above, if an individual feels that they are particularly vulnerable to the virus, then why wouldn't it be THEIR responsibility to stay out of public places or take extra precautions such as double masking in order to protect themselves? Why should someone whose personal risk level from the virus is way less than 1% be prohibited from being in a public place just because some particularly vulnerable person doesn't feel safe?

Shouldn't self protection be the primary responsibility of the individual rather than placing the burden upon society to protect them by giving up their own freedoms?

Personal responsibility: what a concept!

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Patriceunger

“No COVID-19 vaccines have been approved. Approval means the FDA has officially decided that a product is safe and effective for its designated use. The process for approval involves rigorous reviews of all available data on the product and can take several months. They are instead emergency use authorizations that have been issued.”

Originally Posted by Patriceunger

I’m not spouting any nonsense by pointing out that the vaccines are not FDA approved but are being offered under an emergency usage authorization. That’s a fact, not nonsense.

Yes, the vaccines are allowed to be used under an emergency use authorization. But to imply that they are unsafe or that they have not undergone testing and review *is* nonsense.

[Mimarsha]

I definitely support showing vaccines were given! Just like a Drivers License or Village ID but saving lives at least for the next 6-9 months. This thing is NOT over yet!

Today vaccination passport Tomorrow passport to leave your home. Too much government control.

[Gray lady of the sea]

I totally agree with our governor’s decision

[Waltdisney4life]

When do people take responsible for themselves and quit pointing fingers it must make people sleep better at night when they can blame others for this and that and feel fully justified with their hate and anger.

[Pat2015]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Yes, the vaccines are allowed to be used under an emergency use authorization. But to imply that they are unsafe or that they have not undergone testing and review *is* nonsense.

I never said they were unsafe or implied anything I simply corrected the statement that the vaccines are FDA approved, as they are not and that is not “nonsense!”

[dtennent]

If the Governor prohibits any business from requiring a vaccine passport, will the cruise industry find ports outside of Florida to base their cruises? After seeing what happened on the Princess ship last year, I am a proponent of showing proof that you have had the vaccine before getting on a ship. BTW, I have traveled to all 7 continents and have had a yellow vaccination record for the past 45 years showing my vaccinations against typhus, typhoid, cholera, yellow fever, tetanus, etc. I think the only vaccination I haven't gotten is for rabies - though I am beginning to have second thoughts after seeing some of the rabid responses here.

[Gray lady of the sea]

Thank you

[Proveone]

Your "information" is incorrect. Where did you get it? The medical experts (not the pillow guy or Scott Atlas, a radiologist) have said that the vaccine effectiveness will protect you from being seriously ill or hospitalized. They state that it is too early to say that people who have contracted Covid 19 will not pass it to someone else. Florida governor (aka Mini Me) as usual doesn't know what he is talking about. How is a vaccine verification card different than having a passport or driver's license?