[camaguey48]

Originally Posted by Skunky1

There are many ways to protest instead of disrespecting our flag and national anthem.

Many ways to protest such as those " peaceful" protests that took plac? I specially liked the pallets of bricks that were strategically placed along the parade route. The small business owners whose businesses were looted and destroyed, the "peaceful" physical attacks by the "protesters" were a fine example of the way these fine BLM people expressed their outrage. I especially liked the pandering by the media, corporate Amerika, the sports and Hollywood celebrities as they join in on the Marxist revolution.

I leave you with this: "A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.". Edward R. Murrow

[jbrown132]

Originally Posted by La lamy

Did you see the beginning of the home opener in Washington last night where ALL the baseball players of both teams took a knee? That was quite shocking. I'm not one for political statement in work places, but I found it quite awesome to see so much support for black people.

I am not prejudice against black people. To me though taking a knee during the National Anthem is disrespectful and a slap in the face to the very foundations this country was founded on which gives these individuals the freedom to protest. Peaceful protest is fine but show respect to the flag that gives them the right to do this. All these guys are multi millionaires. If they really want to show support and protest voluntarily give give one years salary to the cause. As they say, put your money where your mouth is. Let’s see how many sign up for that.

[Lindsyburnsy]

They not only support BLM, but supporting protests, including those that are peaceful, by people of all colors, without being arrested by unnamed men in military camo (isn't camouflage uniforms to hide from enemies?) as they would do in unsavory regimes. This is what we have become.

Originally Posted by billethkid

I am not sure it is because they "support for black people".
For some it is about being against those who may not agree.
And there are those who just want to be where the camera and reporters are for personal recognition.

What else do all these high paid players do other than taking a knee to help/support black people???

[Girlcopper]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

I would have cancelled the game and fired every player on both teams.

For sure. Their political opinions belong in their home or voting booth. Not on national tv. That display was disgusting and disrespectful. I saw 5 seconds of it and changed the channel, never to return again

[Guitarman1951]

Sad to think that sports have incorporated a tribute to an organization that has caused so many deaths and destruction. They are a marxist organization trying to defund the police over very isolated incidents. I don't know about anyone else, but this is just stupid to celebrate looting, riots, murder and anarchy.

[blueash]

Originally Posted by Dahabs

What would you call it? Would you prefer genocide? I think if 6 million of your ancestors including much of your relatives were systematically eliminated you might make a big deal out of it. While I am not Jewish, I am still appalled at our leaders actions (and lack of) at the time. The fact that other minorities were also targeted does not diminish the atrocity. We must never forget.

Finally somebody understands. Jews are correct to focus on the Jewish deaths that occurred at the hands of Germany. And that focus is righteous and important. And the support of people who are not Jewish is also important. And when Jews say "never forget" it is the same as saying "Jewish lives matter" That in no way diminishes the awareness that is was not only Jews who suffered. Only some of the worst people deny the Holocaust.

Now we have a group saying "Black lives matter" to which so many on this website and elsewhere retort "all lives matter" and criticize the Black leaders for their narrow focus. The same narrow focus Jewish leaders have about the atrocity visited upon them by their governments. Stop with the denial of their righteous and important focus and the support of others who recognize their pain and their cause.

Would you have been angered at Jews who did not stand for the anthem when they learned that FDR was aware of the concentration camps and did nothing or turned away Jewish refugees sending them back to Europe to their death as they were the poor and unwashed beyond our quota? If your county does nothing to help and even worse is actively involved in the extermination of your people does it deserve "respect"? Should Native Americans be allowed to kneel in reflection for how they were treated?

I am sick and tired of white supremacists who say not every unarmed person killed by a cop was black. Not every person killed in Auschwitz was a Jew either. This nation was founded with slavery enshrined in its constitution. The White House was built by slaves. Pennsylvania which had allowed non-Whites to vote removed that provision in 1838 and it was not restored until 1869. It took the bloodiest war in US history to end slavery and then people looked the other way as the Jim Crow laws put the Negro back into inequality. The KKK, lynchings, police brutality, segregation all either ignored or actively supported by local state and the federal government.

And now it continues. On this website people start thread after thread on the same tired tropes. If only the Blacks wouldn't be so uppity. If only they'd behave and act like I think they should. If only they weren't so lazy and shiftless. If only they'd not sully our beautiful white women with their rapes.

So yes Black Lives Matter. Finally the majority of Americans are getting the clue. And now that most corporations are seeing this moment in history and getting on board perhaps we can begin as a nation to undo some of the systematic racism most of us see, Then healing can begin and the flag might actually mean to POC what it means to some of you.

[Byte1]

For some reason, Americans do not understand "within limitations." Protest, but understand limits. Americans overeat, over drink and over indulge in recreation. I do not agree with BLM, but they have a right. But, where does that right govern itself so as to be most effective? First off, it has become violent and destructive, whether they claim association with the perpetrators or not. They are in ONE group and they have become more nuisance than effective demonstration. They have alienated many and forced racism on those that before this, were very sympathetic. I do NOT believe in "systemic racism" period. Blacks being killed by COPs is less in count than whites. It is proven by FBI stats that a white is more likely to be shot by a cop than a black, and that black cops are more likely to shoot than white cops. I will sympathize with blacks when they start putting more effort into demonstrating against black on black violence than a few blacks that have been shot by cops. And a point of fact is that most folks shot by cops have a previous record, and most shootings are deemed justified. A few bad shootings does not make for a legitimate protest, especially violent ones.
Regarding kneeling at the games, I find it amusing that the original agitator for this action was Colin Kaepernick. His motivation for this action was not dealing with Black Justice other than his own. He was about to be benched and possibly traded and he had a childish tantrum. He took a knee and then when called out on it, he came up with the black injustice and cop killing as his reasoning. The joke is on all those that support it.
To take a knee during the playing of the National Anthem and displaying of the American flag is disrespectful to all those that died or served this country. It is disrespectful of those good law enforcement officers that serve their communities with professionalism and dedication.
Those that use the strawman's reasoning that "I bet you don't stand for the Anthem at home" are using a weak argument. We stand to SHOW our loyalty and respect for those that serve/served this country. You either have respect or you don't. Making an argument that this black thing has any right to impinge on half the country's population that hold patriotism reverent is damaging, and not productive. Yes, it spotlights a very small problem that requires a very small point of attention. There is simply NO "systemic racism" in this country, period. Yes, there are some individuals that are prejudiced, but that is not indicative of a large racism problem that needs world wide attention. We now have more important matters to address, such as a deadly virus pandemic and to cause so much resources to be diverted to address a small matter such as implied black slights, is tantamount to being criminal.
National Athletic organizations do not empathize with this BLM, but merely coddle it in hopes of avoiding unruly or disruptive spoiled and overpaid athletes and the loss of possible viewers/supporters. It's all business and money to them.
All lives matter, including but not exclusive to the black population. COPs lives matter also, as well as the victims of crimes that are being put in harms way by having law enforcement funding cut. A social worker cannot do what a trained law enforcement officer can.

All this will go away after the Nov election. And I will bet money on it. No politician in leadership will put up with this disruptive destruction and violence unless they are worried about votes.

[Joanne19335]

Originally Posted by blueash

Do you also object to Jews making such a big deal out of what "they" call the Holocaust? After all the Nazis didn't just kill Jews they killed lots of Christians and Roma and disabled and Marxists and others. Why do the Jews keep making it all about Jews? Why don't the Jews correctly point out that it was about ALL lives not just their lives? All lives matter or none matter. So quit harping on Jewish deaths in particular. /s

How dare you! Six million people gassed and burned. I suppose you support tearing down the memorial at Auschwitz? Poland lost 20% of its population, almost all of them Jews!

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Windguy

I wonder if all these people who feel it is really important to stand for the national anthem stand up in their living rooms when it is played on TV. I suspect they remain seated in their recliners while holding a beer and shoving snacks in their mouths.

I feel that the national anthem is being abused by being played for so many gatherings that are totally unrelated to patriotism. It should be reserved for special occasions. For instance, play it during ball games on Independence Day, but not for every game. It cheapens the anthem the way it is overused. But, the ball parks do it because they are pandering to those who think it’s important. Is that any worse than what some here think of as pandering when players take a knee before the game starts?

Our grandchildren in DC do the pledge of allegiance before school starts. Want to get rid of that too.

Traditions are important, history is important. My father and father in law fought under that flag in WWII. I respect our flag and do not appreciate anyone taking a knee while it is being sung or played. Lots of other ways to protest.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by Lindsyburnsy

They not only support BLM, but supporting protests, including those that are peaceful, by people of all colors, without being arrested by unnamed men in military camo (isn't camouflage uniforms to hide from enemies?) as they would do in unsavory regimes. This is what we have become.

Those "unnamed men in military camo" had big letters on their uniforms saying what organization they came from. Not one of those folks arrested were innocent, so I find it funny, no hilarious that anyone would complain that criminals are being arrested. And camo is a work uniform, regardless if it is useful in "hiding" or not. BLM is violent and destructive, period. When they march down your street peacefully, step out and cheer them on and see what happens.

[shortstack]

The players can take their political views to the polls. I AM SICK AND TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT BLM. All people of every race matter.

[Ricky Dale]

Originally Posted by blueash

Do you also object to Jews making such a big deal out of what "they" call the Holocaust? After all the Nazis didn't just kill Jews they killed lots of Christians and Roma and disabled and Marxists and others. Why do the Jews keep making it all about Jews? Why don't the Jews correctly point out that it was about ALL lives not just their lives? All lives matter or none matter. So quit harping on Jewish deaths in particular. /s

Sorry but of the approximate 6 mil murdered in the Holocaust 5.4 mil to 5.8 mil were Jews. I think the Jews have a reason to make a big deal over it.

[superzcomputerz]

No more Baseball or NFL (and any other sport who disrespects my flag) for me!

[Andyb]

Don’t be fooled, I’m not a racist, but the BLM movement is a front for progressive socialism. Do the research and study the history of the rise of communism. Go to the BLM website and scroll into it. People need to wake up.

[Mardarlowe]

Get on board the train. If we stop watching, they will be in the unemployment line.