Talk of The Villages Florida - Rentals, Entertainment & More
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CDC Investigation | Full Measure |
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I agree don’t trust the vaccine
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1) The small pox vaccination was stopped being given because small pox no longer existed anywhere in the world. In fact, the effectiveness of the vaccine eliminated small pox. 2) I went to the FDA website to look at the 327 drug recalls. It was illuminating. The FDA was doing its job in making sure that companies don't include chemicals such as methanol (etc.), particulate matter, undeclared drugs, mislabeling, exceeding daily limits, etc. While I didn't go through the entire list, it looks like the FDA is doing its job in protecting the average citizen from potential danger. here is the link: Recalls, Market Withdrawals, & Safety Alerts | FDA 3) While it is true that most people will suffer only minor symptoms, there have been several areas where the ICUs were filled to capacity. I do not wish to bet whether there will be an ICU bed available if I need one. 4) Reports are just coming in where people who had only minor symptoms now appear to have longer term damage. Certainly there needs research to verify these reports. Until it can be verified, I am not willing to take the risk. I am glad that the various government agencies from around the world supported the warp speed development of vaccines. It is true that development of any vaccine or drug takes 10+ years. In this most recent effort, the small group tests run over a few years with complete reviews were skipped. This meant that the individuals in the large group trials were exposed to greater risks. The result was that some vaccines were shown not to be effective (Merck) while others were shown to be effective and were scaled up. I respect your right to not get vaccinated. However, your presentation of incomplete data may persuade others to follow your decision. Unfortunately, your post contributed to the misinformation that you complained about. |
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"However, your presentation of incomplete data may persuade others to follow your decision. Unfortunately, your post contributed to the misinformation that you complained about." It appears to me that this is okay with far too many folks anymore. Forget the facts, make me be right or feel good or strongly support a specific group. |
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Nothing here about not getting vaccine. The Vaccine was not available at this time in October of 2020. This seems to be exactly what has happened. The older are more protected usually at their wise choice and people younger are taking their chances. Not really over the top at all. File:Great Barrington Declaration.pdf - Wikipedia
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As a researcher, I tend to look at established and respected groups of people and professionals for opinions. Even I, as a conservative, don't quote conservative sources just to substantiate my views or opinions. The experts are out there... |
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So, OP, you are saying, or implying that the whole world, every country (even North Korea, the great Covid denier) is so dumb, so stupid that they are locking down their economies and taking great losses and desperately trying to vaccinate their people without good reason. Of the billions of people only YOU know the actual facts and you are warning us. Am I right?
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Thalidamide was a drug, not a vaccine. |
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great....makes the line shorter for the rest of us
thanks ps....you might want to keep an extra loaf of bread in the bath room, to kneel on...those tile floors can be rough on the knees if you end up 'bowing down to the porcelain goddess' |
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Another comment with no research. You say you agree?
This doesn't make much sense. Here is the EXACT quote from Barrington: As immunity builds in the population, the risk of infection to all – including the vulnerable – falls. We know that all populations will eventually reach herd immunity – i.e. the point at which the rate of new infections is stable – and that this can be assisted by a vaccine. Our goal should therefore be to minimize mortality and social harm until we reach herd immunity. So, to say I am not getting the vaccine, then quote Barrington, makes no sense.... |
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Just watching what those scientists and vaccine developers have to work with these days is mind boggling. How many times on TV have we seen their equipment and them at work? We are not talking about vaccine development from 50 years ago. I have hope and faith that these vaccines that have been developed in these modern times are safe for human "consumption".
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This is actually an interesting discussion. I think the OP is a little over the top, but I agree with him that if I had already had Covid, I would at least wait until everyone else had a shot for 2 reasons - the first is I have antibodies. The second one is a reason I have NEVER heard anyone mention - IF I HAD IT ONCE AND IT WAS MINOR, WHY WOULD IT NOT BE MINOR IF I GOT IT AGAIN, ESPECIALLY NOW HAVING ANTIBODIES. You see news reports of really old people getting it again, but don't you think if reinfection was a real issue, we would hear about EVERY case of it? Also, if anyone ever had a mild case, then got it again and died, it would be front page news all over the world for a week. So I think if I had it and it was very mild, I would assume logically my body doesn't have an issue with it, so why get vaccinated? However, if I had a rough case, like a few people I know, I probably would get it after everyone else has had a chance.
But I am 57 and I will be getting it. All 3 of the healthcare workers in my family, including my wife, have had both doses of either Moderna or Pfizer vaccines. My RN, BSN wife who has been a nurse for 35 years would agree with me, she has done pediatrics most of her life and seen some consequences of lack of vacinactions in the "anti vaxxer" crowd and they are not pretty. So stay the heck out of my way OP. A few other things - the person who posted about Smallpox vaccines being stopped because they were too dangerous - I would just like to know if you ever check your facts? Seriously Smallpox was eradicated because it was such a horrible disease everyone got vaccinated and it disappeared. I had to laugh at Graciegirl implying in one post that this virus that kills about 1/2% of people who get it (this is the number that seems to be correct, my source is the statisticians at JP morgan) is going to eventually mutate and only leave trees and horses on the planet. Wow- a litte over the top. Thalidamide is a drug, not a vaccine and that was 60 years ago before we had all the rules for testing (and the reason for some of them) we do now. This is why we had to do a 60,000 person trial... seriously people. the whole - "they developed it too fast" argument reminds me of the "villages builds houses to fast" argument. Well, Toyota builds a car in about 4 hours... These vaccines have had over 50 million people take them. Safety is not an issue. Lastly, to Coffeebean or whatever your name is - are you seriously BLAMING someone for getting Covid by being Careless? Well, you can cower in your house and never go out, but most of us have lives. The only way to make sure you don't get this is to have NO Contact with anyone. Blaming people for being careless is just stupid.
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