[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Lottoguy

Did you know Chicago is not even in the top 15 for crime?. There are many other cities that have a higher crime rate then Chicago. Check the statistics.
St. Louis, MO (2,082)
Detroit, MI (2,057)
Baltimore, MD (2,027)
Memphis, TN (2,003)
Little Rock, AR (1,634)
Milwaukee, WI (1,597)
Rockford, IL (1,588)
Cleveland, OH (1,557)
Stockton, CA (1,415)
Albuquerque, NM (1,369)
Springfield, MO (1,339)
Indianapolis, IN (1,334)
Oakland, CA (1,299)
San Bernardino, CA (1,291)
Anchorage, AK (1,203)
Nashville, TN (1,138)
Lansing, MI (1,136)
New Orleans, LA (1,121)
Minneapolis, MN (1,101)
Chicago, IL (1,099)

So it that murders/violent crimes only? I bet lots of petty crime goes unreported in Chicago. And some don’t even go to hearing. Maybe Why Boston not I list? Maybe that how get you’re crime rate lower????

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Geodyssey

Publishing that kind of list can get you banned on some websites. Axe me why.

OK why?

[Heytubes]

I have to laugh at some folks that think assault rifles are a problem. Very few citizens own assault rifles and those that do have a rigorous background check, stiff regulations and an expensive Federal Stamp. My single shot hunting rifle has decorations that make it look scary, so that poster wants to ban it because it may look like a scary assault rifle? By the way, countries with stiff firearm regulations aren’t immune to murder.

[Luggage]

Surprised NYC not on list

[BillY41]

Petty crimes ie. misdemeanors are not reported as well as a few felonies

[Lindsyburnsy]

....and Texas!

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by The Gazette

Last month, police officers in Ocala confiscated a total of 34 guns from criminal offenders. Each of these guns were involved in a criminal case, and five of them were reported stolen, according to Florida Police Scanner. The Ocala Police Department is containing their efforts in keeping the community safe.

More...

Good for them!

I'm strongly pro - 2nd Amendment but there needs to be better policing, such as this example. I don't know how Florida law works but back in Minnesota, particularly in Minneapolis, the powers of the police have been reduced to such an extent that what happened in Ocala could never happen in Minneapolis, even though it should. Random checks have pretty much ceased up there: the police must have reasonable cause for stopping you and just the fact that you may be carrying a gun is not enough cause. Even in known gang neighborhoods, this does not happen.

That's one of the big problems today. We have enough--far too many, actually--laws governing gun ownership. But we're not enforcing them. Not allowing police to make random stops in known heavy gang areas is just one example of this.

[Ramone]

No law abiding legal citizen should be afraid of a Stop and Frisk Policy to get the guns off the streets.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Luggage

Surprised NYC not on list

It's a "per capita" list. 8 MILLION people will dilute a lot of murders...

[Number 10 GI]

Originally Posted by Ramone

No law abiding legal citizen should be afraid of a Stop and Frisk Policy to get the guns off the streets.

Right, no problem, until it happens to you!

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Ramone

No law abiding legal citizen should be afraid of a Stop and Frisk Policy to get the guns off the streets.

I guess the 4th Amendment means something different to you...

[DALEPQ]

Great to get guns away from criminals!
But, what about the criminals themselves?
Guns just do shot be themselves.
It takes someone to point and shoot a gun.
So again, what has been done to the criminals?

[TNLAKEPANDA]

Originally Posted by Lottoguy

Did you know Chicago is not even in the top 15 for crime?. There are many other cities that have a higher crime rate then Chicago. Check the statistics.
St. Louis, MO (2,082)
Detroit, MI (2,057)
Baltimore, MD (2,027)
Memphis, TN (2,003)
Little Rock, AR (1,634)
Milwaukee, WI (1,597)
Rockford, IL (1,588)
Cleveland, OH (1,557)
Stockton, CA (1,415)
Albuquerque, NM (1,369)
Springfield, MO (1,339)
Indianapolis, IN (1,334)
Oakland, CA (1,299)
San Bernardino, CA (1,291)
Anchorage, AK (1,203)
Nashville, TN (1,138)
Lansing, MI (1,136)
New Orleans, LA (1,121)
Minneapolis, MN (1,101)
Chicago, IL (1,099)

Based on What? Population ? Type of Crime? Any number of reasons for these figures.
Just saying…

[Love2Swim]

Originally Posted by jswirs

Well, I guess some of what you say may be true. But please keep in mind that when guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns. Add to that, if crazies cannot obtain a gun, they can still have mass murders by running a vehicle into a crowd, making home made bombs, etc., etc. Sorry, gun control in this country will work as well as alcohol prohibition, drug control, (Hell, we can't even keep drugs out of prisons!), etc., etc.

We've all heard that tired argument from the NRA. That is like saying "laws are pointless because criminals break them". Or "all drugs should be legal because addicts will get them anyways." Number one, guns will never be outlawed, Congress is not going to repeal the second amendment. No one wants to outlaw guns but the aim is to make gun laws less liberal so that those who should not have guns will have a more difficult time obtaining them. Given this, law enforcement and qualified law-abiding individuals would possess guns, and not only outlaws. We need to have common sense restrictions on those who can obtain or use firearms. Over time, it would be more difficult for criminals to obtain guns. If there are less guns in circulation, then there will be fewer guns in the hands of criminals.

I was reading interesting statistics about gun control in the UK. Ownership of guns for sport is acceptable and tightly regulated, but other than that, the UK has the strictest gun control legislation anywhere in the world. As a result, their rate of firearm homicide is 0.05 per 100,000 people. The rate in the US is 5.9.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Love2Swim

We've all heard that tired argument from the NRA. That is like saying "laws are pointless because criminals break them". Or "all drugs should be legal because addicts will get them anyways." Number one, guns will never be outlawed, Congress is not going to repeal the second amendment. No one wants to outlaw guns but the aim is to make gun laws less liberal so that those who should not have guns will have a more difficult time obtaining them. Given this, law enforcement and qualified law-abiding individuals would possess guns, and not only outlaws. We need to have common sense restrictions on those who can obtain or use firearms. Over time, it would be more difficult for criminals to obtain guns. If there are less guns in circulation, then there will be fewer guns in the hands of criminals.

I was reading interesting statistics about gun control in the UK. Ownership of guns for sport is acceptable and tightly regulated, but other than that, the UK has the strictest gun control legislation anywhere in the world. As a result, their rate of firearm homicide is 0.05 per 100,000 people. The rate in the US is 5.9.

Yet the rate of death by stabbing is higher in the UK and going up rapidly...

What are these "common sense restrictions" you speak about? Please be specific...