[CFrance]

Originally Posted by HORNET

What’s your point?

What is whose point?

[Malsua]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

The virus is transmitted via moisture droplets. Moisture droplets that manage to escape through those masks, don't travel as far as moisture droplets that are expelled with no mask at all.

If you want, you can experiment. Have someone fully infected with strep throat, sick as a dog, full of phlegm and puss, sneeze on you first without a mask.

After you recover from your own case of strep, have someone else with the same severity of strep throat sneeze on you but this time, while wearing a 3-ply paper mask.

You will probably be just fine.

Oh also that top blue layer isn't just paper. It's a fluid-resistant layer. Not fully waterproof, but moisture resistant. Breath can pass through it. Sneeze-snot cannot.

Sar-cov2 is predominantly spread by aerosols. This is has been established. That you could catch it from someone coughing in your mouth does not change that in the slightest.

Here is a good review of the evidence of mask usage on viral transmission.

Do Masks Work? | City Journal

If you're too lazy to read the entire thing, I'll sum it up for you. They don't do anything and in fact trend to harm. This is based on the 14 RCTs on masks with hand washing and other variables. There are other observational studies and anecdotal stories which are the same or slightly positive.

This is not to say N95 don't work against aerosols. They do but even then, must be well fitted. Beards are out.

Cloth masks actually make health care workers sicker in one RCT.

Anyone who is suggesting a universal mask mandate without requiring an N95 is not following what the science is indicating.

[CFrance]

Ah yes, City Journal, published by the Manhattan Institute. Manhattan Institute for Policy Research - SourceWatch

"The Manhattan Institute concerns itself with such things as 'welfare reform' (dismantling social programs), 'faith-based initiatives' (blurring the distinction between church and state), and 'education reform' (destroying public education)," Kurt Nimmo wrote October 10, 2002, in CounterPunch.[3] It was also recognised as leading the Republican/corporate efforts to destroy Ralph Nader and his supporters, in the 1990s.

[The Gazette]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Interesting spin. The headline is that the rise *causes* changes.

It doesn't. There's nothing in the virus that is causing a church's officials to make any changes. The changes are not caused by the virus. Viruses just don't have that much power. The church officials are making the changes because they have agreed that it's the most appropriate and efficient way to get their worshippers in for services with the lowest risk given the circumstances.

That's not a virus causing changes. It's the human caution regarding a virus causing the changes.

A less "spun" headline might have been:

Places of Worship Enact Safety Changes Amidst COVID-19 Case Rise.

Thank you for this comment. I did not see this inflection when I posted it to the website, and that is of course my fault as editor. I'll make this adjustment.

[glsatterlee]

Yes, after the Delta variant, next comes the echo variant, then the Frank variant… I think it would be easier just to get a respirator installed into our nasal cavities maybe just before our lungs.

[Luggage]

I have to wonder when people make blanket statements like that and don't provide any proof. Why would you think masks don't work when every doctor and dentist will wear one if they are near you?

[Luggage]

I have to wonder when people make blanket statements like that and don't provide any proof. Why would you think masks don't work when every doctor and dentist will wear one if they are near you? Nothing stop you from using a better mask

[Luggage]

please remove my duplicate comment

[Billy1]

God has came to me three times during the covid19 epidemic, once with a mask, once with a vaccine and once with a booster. Thank you God, I will be in heaven at at later date.

[Girlcopper]

Originally Posted by Malsua

Sure there are. The degree of effectiveness of a blue paper mask, loosely worn, often with nose out, is so close to zero effectiveness as to not matter.

MIT came out with a study in the spring that said that even with N95, exhaust gases tended to go up and fall across rooms, and in fact, probably make it a bit worse rather than just coming out and dropping down in front of the infected person.

If you want to do something, how about an open window, door and venting mandate? How about schools hold class outside as possible? Turn off ACs and open every window and door possible(safety in mind of course).

It's all about diluting stagnant air full of virons because little paper masks on the faces of children isn't accomplishing anything and may in fact be harming them.

A mask is harming them?? How? The little kiddies dont get to show off their teeth? This topic has been discussed a zillion times. Have you seen the covid cases of kids since school started? Have you not seen the rise in cases with the variants popping up?
Yes, classes outdoors would be great but not feasible unless you want your kids keeling overwith heat stroke.
Masks is the next best thing. If you dont want your kiddie wearing a mask then home school them. You have choices

[golden]

47 studies confirm ineffectiveness of masks for Covid and 32 more confirm their negative health effects. They are simply pacifiers for scared people.

[Marine1974]

If you or your loved ones catch Covid 19 you will know the answer to your question , sadly . We see people over and over again in a hospital bed getting oxygen , that didn’t believe in Covid and never got vaccinated , explaining how sorry they are .

[lkagele]

Originally Posted by tsmall22204

Seem correct, you are there for the word of God not to get infected.

Maybe get infected with the word of God but not COVID.

[lkagele]

Originally Posted by Girlcopper

A mask is harming them?? How? The little kiddies dont get to show off their teeth? This topic has been discussed a zillion times. Have you seen the covid cases of kids since school started? Have you not seen the rise in cases with the variants popping up?
Yes, classes outdoors would be great but not feasible unless you want your kids keeling overwith heat stroke.
Masks is the next best thing. If you dont want your kiddie wearing a mask then home school them. You have choices

New Study Finds COVID Masks Harm Children’s Physical & Mental Health | Principia Scientific Intl..

A new study, involving over 25,000 school-aged children, shows that masks are harming schoolchildren physically, psychologically, and behaviorally, revealing 24 distinct health issues associated with wearing masks.

But then again, if you get them used to being controlled at an early age, it's gets easier to control them when they're older. So, there's that.......

[OhioBuckeye]

Originally Posted by The Gazette

As a result of the recent increase in COVID-19 cases caused by the delta variant, some local churches are requesting that attendees once again wear face masks as a precaution. Church members at the United Church of Christ at The Villages are being ordered to wear masks inside the church, referencing the US Centers for

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Yes, even people of worship get Covid. A lot of news reports pick on the younger generation just because young people mingle more than a lot of adults. Covid will never end until we get it in our heads to do exactly what our medical people tell us what to do. But I know as well as anyone else some people don’t believe what’s really happening.